Guild Wars 2

How does this idea sound? With HoT on the definite horizon and ArenaNet’s announcements on the change in how we will acquire skill points (no more skill points when leveling when past 80), does the idea of having an account bound “bank” or wallet of skill points sound like an interesting idea that others might be interested in?

With Eldritch Scrolls and Bloodstone Shards costing 50 and 200 skill points respectively, players that don’t focus on a single character when playing the game, players that haven’t had the same in-game time as others to have accrued large amounts of skill points, and the upcoming changes in the skill point system, does my idea seem like a good idea?

I have tons of skill point scrolls constantly dropping, my new characters never have any needs. The only issue at this point with them is no option to consume a stack in one click. Same goes with luck.

I don’t see why not. Sounds like a good idea to me since I’m not too thrilled on the no more skill points past level 80.

Fiennis.4387:

With HotW on the definite horizon

I think you mean HoT (heart of thorns). HotW (honor of the waves) is the dungeon in Frostgorge.

I do like this idea. I’ve got over 200 SPs worth of consumable scrolls in my bank, as well as the level 20 scrolls which give 8 each. It’d give me a bit more bank space for sure.

They said there would be skill points, just not from the level dings, and that they’d adjust the drop rates to make up for the loss of the level up source.

Sure, I’d like account wide for convenience, but I’m not worried the supply is going to dry up.

would make the lvl 20 scrolls useful actually

i could create 10x a new char and get 200 skillpoints

Orangensaft.7139:

would make the lvl 20 scrolls useful actually

i could create 10x a new char and get 200 skillpoints

You only get 8 skill points per level 20 scroll. They changed that with the NPE.

The most useful thing for them is key farming. That’s the only thing I use them for.

Kronos.2560:

I have tons of skill point scrolls constantly dropping, my new characters never have any needs. The only issue at this point with them is no option to consume a stack in one click. Same goes with luck.

to consume a stack , just go in the GW2 option and bound your mouse click to your mouse scroll .. then over the stack and spin that wheel ! .. revert to your original configuration .. .. stack consumed in less than a minute.

I support this. Always forget how many skillpoints each of my alts has.

No, but I really don’t care either way, and you really should use up your SP scrolls before HoT, because, if I recall, they said existing skill points would be converted into Mastery Points, the how an method to be determined…also, it could work that the SP scrolls will give you a method of gaining MP once HoT releases. That is something ArenaNet will have to determine and then decide what’s the best way to work it out.

Miss Lana.5276:

Orangensaft.7139:

would make the lvl 20 scrolls useful actually

i could create 10x a new char and get 200 skillpoints

You only get 8 skill points per level 20 scroll. They changed that with the NPE.

The most useful thing for them is key farming. That’s the only thing I use them for.

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NPE kittened too many things up

Farming Flats.5370:

Kronos.2560:

I have tons of skill point scrolls constantly dropping, my new characters never have any needs. The only issue at this point with them is no option to consume a stack in one click. Same goes with luck.

to consume a stack , just go in the GW2 option and bound your mouse click to your mouse scroll .. then over the stack and spin that wheel ! .. revert to your original configuration .. .. stack consumed in less than a minute.

Wow, I learnt something useful on the forums. Thank you kind sir/lady!

First I though that we could have two skillpoint pools:

• A temporary one each character has while they level up, until they reach level 80 and unlock all skills and traits.
• And an account-wide one. Once a character has reached level 80 and unlocked all skills and traits, their remaining points and any new points they obtained get added to the account-wide pool.

This was so each character could have their own separate progression.

But, since you can already have skill scrolls for your other characters, the only difference between account-wide skill points and not having them is 1 or 2 storage slots in the bank.

We may as well just make them account wide, and since they are not used on any recipe, also make it so instead using up inventory space, Skill Point consumables get consumed on acquisition.

One less variable per character, less clutter in inventories, same effective functionality, improved quality of life.

The fewer, the better.

I say that’ll be a good idea.

Zaklex.6308:

No, but I really don’t care either way, and you really should use up your SP scrolls before HoT, because, if I recall, they said existing skill points would be converted into Mastery Points, the how an method to be determined

I suggest you reread the info they have given us, because they haven’t said anything of the sort. Quite the opposite. We already know that Mastery Points will be completely unrelated thing.

It’s been made perfectly clear that the Mastery bar will NOT replace the XP bar, but you will be able to change between the 2….earning SP thru XP is NOT being removed by HoT (nor are SP or any items that generate SP). Now it may be that you can select between SP or Mastery points with those (or new) items, but they made it perfectly clear this will be a PLAYER choice, not a forced change (tho it may be that certain (new) maps DO only provide one or the other).

Back on topic, I would certainly like to NOT load multiple characters to check out SP numbers available when I need to spend some SP at the Forge NPC. Account bound SP would be much appreciated but I can see how this would alter a new character’s approach to unlocking traits or buying utility / healing skills.

On the other hand, it’s not like a new LVL 2 can’t use a veteran players stacks of SP scrolls now … /shrug

I’m happy with the way it is. I think it works just fine.

Farming Flats.5370:

Kronos.2560:

I have tons of skill point scrolls constantly dropping, my new characters never have any needs. The only issue at this point with them is no option to consume a stack in one click. Same goes with luck.

to consume a stack , just go in the GW2 option and bound your mouse click to your mouse scroll .. then over the stack and spin that wheel ! .. revert to your original configuration .. .. stack consumed in less than a minute.

I can’t find where to change this… where is it exactly under controls?

Brother Grimm.5176:

It’s been made perfectly clear that the Mastery bar will NOT replace the XP bar, but you will be able to change between the 2….earning SP thru XP is NOT being removed by HoT (nor are SP or any items that generate SP). Now it may be that you can select between SP or Mastery points with those (or new) items, but they made it perfectly clear this will be a PLAYER choice, not a forced change (tho it may be that certain (new) maps DO only provide one or the other).

Back on topic, I would certainly like to NOT load multiple characters to check out SP numbers available when I need to spend some SP at the Forge NPC. Account bound SP would be much appreciated but I can see how this would alter a new character’s approach to unlocking traits or buying utility / healing skills.

On the other hand, it’s not like a new LVL 2 can’t use a veteran players stacks of SP scrolls now … /shrug

As I read it, the Mastery bar will replace the XP bar after level 80.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/reimagining-progression-the-mastery-system/
“The ability to train Masteries is unlocked at level 80 for all players that own Heart of Thorns. When this ability is unlocked, your character’s experience bar will change to become a Mastery training bar while in PvE zones.” (Snip) “Because the Mastery training bar completely replaces the experience bar, players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries.”

MithranArkanere.8957:

We may as well just make them account wide, and since they are not used on any recipe

They aren’t used in recipes per se, but they are used as currency by the mystic forge vendor, 200 at a time for one of the items. A player with the requisite number SPs but only over different characters will not be able to obtain that item unless they focus on playing a single character over others.

I’m still holding out hope that the new “not earning skillpoints with every level” won’t be as bad as I’m thinking it might. I think this is a good idea considering what might be to come.

Quetzal.9671:

I’m still holding out hope that the new “not earning skillpoints with every level” won’t be as bad as I’m thinking it might. I think this is a good idea considering what might be to come.

I just hope there’ll still be ways to get SPs to make all the mystic forge weps that I’ve been eyeing off.

Is this why I have a 5 point soulbound skills scroll on my 80 warrior, which says ‘double-click to consume’, but it won’t actually let me do so…? Is my only option just to destroy it, or should I log a ticket?

Nostromo.4126:

Is this why I have a 5 point soulbound skills scroll on my 80 warrior, which says ‘double-click to consume’, but it won’t actually let me do so…? Is my only option just to destroy it, or should I log a ticket?

That sounds like a bug. You can either destroy it, contact support, or wait and see if it turns into the new Mystic Forge item after the update.

Nostromo.4126:

Is this why I have a 5 point soulbound skills scroll on my 80 warrior, which says ‘double-click to consume’, but it won’t actually let me do so…? Is my only option just to destroy it, or should I log a ticket?

Make sure you are not in a PvP area, as some items won’t let you consume them there.

Good luck.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Nostromo.4126:

Is this why I have a 5 point soulbound skills scroll on my 80 warrior, which says ‘double-click to consume’, but it won’t actually let me do so…? Is my only option just to destroy it, or should I log a ticket?

Make sure you are not in a PvP area, as some items won’t let you consume them there.

Good luck.

BINGO! Tx dude – been trying to use it in the PvP area every time is seems…blush

Happy to have been of some assistance! =)

The only thing that worries me, is the conversion rate. Will it be 1:1 with no change in the pricing? Will it be 1:1 but the price of items will increase effectively decreasing the value of our current points? Will it be like transmutation stones and be 3:1 leaving me with 2 skill points sitting there staring at me awkwardly wondering why they exist and what cruel god abandoned them?

Yes, I still have 2 transmutation stones that give me that look every time I log in, “Please, kill us.”

Sujuro.4096:

Will it be like transmutation stones and be 3:1 leaving me with 2 skill points sitting there staring at me awkwardly wondering why they exist and what cruel god abandoned them?

Even if you assume the conversion isn’t 1:1, you wouldn’t have any extras left over because they will still be obtainable.