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Posted by: Carzor Stelatis.9435

Carzor Stelatis.9435

Will the new account wallet force all my characters to deposit their gold in a common ‘pool’, rather than being able to progress individually? I don’t want this to be a moan thread – just a question – but it would be game-breaking for me personally if it were compulsory (though an optional ‘deposit collectibles’ type system would be fine).

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Posted by: goldenwing.8473

goldenwing.8473

All of your gold will be pooled by account.

You will no longer be able to store gold separately on individual characters.

ANet’s response to this is the suggestion that you create a personal guild.

(Per Martin Kerstein): page 5 of thread listed below

It is not as simple as having both, it is something that is within the code and the interaction of multiple different elements of the game. So it might look like an easy thing on the outside – under the hood there is a lot of programming magic going on.

So if you need to have a bankspace to protect yourself from – well – yourself, you have to use the “individual guild” route.

Please see this thread: (for answers to your question and other questions):

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/jubilee/Token-Wallet-Thank-you-a-net/first

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Posted by: Carzor Stelatis.9435

Carzor Stelatis.9435

All of your gold will be pooled by account.

You will no longer be able to store gold separately on individual characters.

ANet’s response to this is the suggestion that you create a personal guild.

(Per Martin Kerstein): page 5 of thread listed below

It is not as simple as having both, it is something that is within the code and the interaction of multiple different elements of the game. So it might look like an easy thing on the outside – under the hood there is a lot of programming magic going on.

So if you need to have a bankspace to protect yourself from – well – yourself, you have to use the “individual guild” route.

Please see this thread:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/jubilee/Token-Wallet-Thank-you-a-net/first

That “protect yourself from… yourself” quote shows either stunning arrogance or an inability to understand the question (not aimed at you personally btw, but at the dev who said it). It’s not about buying ‘too much’ on one character, it’s about the fact that gold is the most basic measure of character progression (well, until you’re 80 and fully geared anyway). This honestly destroys any idea of roleplay for me, and though I’m not normally prone to such feelings it really would kill off most of the enjoyment I get from GW2. It basically means that your characters have no greater individual identity than the buttons to ‘choose class to spawn as’ in Battlefield or CoD.

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Posted by: goldenwing.8473

goldenwing.8473

Feel free to add to the thread there. You will find other like-minded players have posted there as well.

Overall, the change to store tokens, etcetera by account is wonderful addition.

There are concerns regarding pooled gold. For multiple reasons.

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Posted by: Carzor Stelatis.9435

Carzor Stelatis.9435

Feel free to add to the thread there. You will find other like-minded players have posted there as well.

Overall, the change to store tokens, etcetera by account is wonderful addition.

There are concerns regarding pooled gold. For multiple reasons.

This. The account-wide tokens (dungeon etc.) is magnificent, and even an easy-to-access account wide gold pool would be awesome of it were optional. I’ll take a look at the other thread, cheers.

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Posted by: Palador.2170

Palador.2170

That “protect yourself from… yourself” quote shows either stunning arrogance or an inability to understand the question (not aimed at you personally btw, but at the dev who said it). It’s not about buying ‘too much’ on one character, it’s about the fact that gold is the most basic measure of character progression (well, until you’re 80 and fully geared anyway). This honestly destroys any idea of roleplay for me, and though I’m not normally prone to such feelings it really would kill off most of the enjoyment I get from GW2. It basically means that your characters have no greater individual identity than the buttons to ‘choose class to spawn as’ in Battlefield or CoD.

I would suggest that you deposit your gold in an individual guild bank, save some small amount to start. When you finish that character, record how much they had on a notepad somewhere. Next time you log in as them, deposit all but that amount. (Or withdraw, if you’re below the amount.)

It’s annoying, yes, but it will allow you to keep the correct amount on that character.

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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

JustTrogdor.7892

It doesn’t bother me, actually it will be more convenient for me. I tend to pool all my coin from my alts into the bank anyway. This way when playing an alt and I need a few more coin for something I don’t have to logout, log back in with a different alt, go to the bank, deposit the coins, logout and then back in with the other character to get the coins. Now it will be done for me.

I can understand how for some tracking the amount of money each character earns adds to the game play though. I suppose you could keep a spread sheet and only allocate funds to the character that earned them. I’m kidding. :P

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Posted by: stof.9341

stof.9341

That “protect yourself from… yourself” quote shows either stunning arrogance or an inability to understand the question (not aimed at you personally btw, but at the dev who said it). It’s not about buying ‘too much’ on one character

Well actually, the dev answer quoted WAS about someone fearing they’d overspend and who wanted the protection of putting most of their gold in the bank.

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Posted by: Carzor Stelatis.9435

Carzor Stelatis.9435

I can understand how for some tracking the amount of money each character earns adds to the game play though. I suppose you could keep a spread sheet and only allocate funds to the character that earned them. I’m kidding. :P

Don’t worry, even if you weren’t kidding it would still be a more professional response than the Anet dev in that other thread :P

I can see the great utility – it’s something that I would probably have ended up doing (via the bank if this update didn’t exist) once my characters were 80 and geared anyway. It’s just the forced element of it I have a problem with.

I would suggest that you deposit your gold in an individual guild bank, save some small amount to start. When you finish that character, record how much they had on a notepad somewhere. Next time you log in as them, deposit all but that amount. (Or withdraw, if you’re below the amount.)

It’s annoying, yes, but it will allow you to keep the correct amount on that character.

Ah, so just have one personal guild bank (ie shared between all my characters), and use that as essentially a ‘buffer’ for the character’s own gold each time I load the character? That’s pretty doable (much more than one personal guild per character which is what I was thinking I’d have to do!), thanks for the suggestion.

Well actually, the dev answer quoted WAS about someone fearing they’d overspend and who wanted the protection of putting most of their gold in the bank.

Ah, well in that case I apologise (indirectly, to the dev who probably won’t see this thread anyway) as my ‘arrogance’ comment was misplaced.

(edited by Carzor Stelatis.9435)

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Posted by: goldenwing.8473

goldenwing.8473

Apologies! It was not my intent to take the quote out of context for any type of agenda.

Just pointing to the merged thread where the discussion was occurring and the (official) suggestion that seems to be the best work around at the moment.

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Posted by: Carzor Stelatis.9435

Carzor Stelatis.9435

Apologies! It was not my intent to take the quote out of context for any type of agenda.

Just pointing to the merged thread where the discussion was occurring and the (official) suggestion that seems to be the best work around at the moment.

Yeah, makes more sense now that I’ve realised I had it backwards. Use the guild bank as the account storage, and then withdraw each character’s ‘share’ of that into the ‘account wallet’ when you play that character.

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Posted by: Saelune.5316

Saelune.5316

I actually wont mind it, but I can understand why people might get bothered by it…but its not the worst thing in the world, just hope people remember that. Better to have pooled gold than a crowded inventory/bank.

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Posted by: Chase.8415

Chase.8415

Sheesh, I wonder when the washing machine was invented; people were concerned that they would gain too much weight because a washboard was the far healthier option.

This is a fantastic feature implemented in the game, but someone always finds something to complain about; and quite frankly, this one is a bit ridiculous.

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Posted by: zenleto.6179

zenleto.6179

Sheesh, I wonder when the washing machine was invented; people were concerned that they would gain too much weight because a washboard was the far healthier option.

This is a fantastic feature implemented in the game, but someone always finds something to complain about; and quite frankly, this one is a bit ridiculous.

Ridiculous for you maybe, not for others.

Complaining about complainers is also a bit ridiculous.

Fire up the Hyperbowl ma, we’re going to town!

Would you like some hard cheeze with your sad whine?

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Posted by: HappyPrimes.3904

HappyPrimes.3904

Sheesh, I wonder when the washing machine was invented; people were concerned that they would gain too much weight because a washboard was the far healthier option.

This is a fantastic feature implemented in the game, but someone always finds something to complain about; and quite frankly, this one is a bit ridiculous.

Anet could mail every player $100 and people would still complain about how the bills were folded in the envelope. Complainers gonna complain.

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

It wasn’t until I rolled my 2nd character that I realize the “bank” was an account bank and not a personal bank. Once I did I decided that every character empties their purse every night and takes out an allotment when they are played, I always park them next/near a bank.

We are heroes. This is what we do!

RIP City of Heroes

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Posted by: Sil.4560

Sil.4560

Pooling all of the gold will honestly be way more convenient for me. I’ve got a number of characters that I like to gear up and drawing from a bank for each of them is annoying.

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Posted by: maddoctor.2738

maddoctor.2738

How is it destroying your idea of roleplaying while the shared tokens/karma/laurels/gems etc isn’t? It’s one and the same, it’s currency you use to acquire items. And they give you this convenient option so you don’t have to run to your bank to get what you need when you want to buy something, those extra trips are meaningless anyway.
The benefits of sharing the gold through the wallet are far too many compared to any drawbacks, it’s a simple quality of life improvement that will greatly enhance play experience.