Guild Wars 2

So I have been thinking. After you complete a heart in an area you really get no reward for continuing to do what you did for beating the heart. Such as rushing into that centaur camp and smashing their weapon racks to pieces, stomping those plagued rats etc.

Now I know a lot of people would say well just don’t do it any further. My response to that would be but what if I find it fun to continue to still do it? Sure I could still do those things just for the fun and I do. But it’s always nice to be rewarded for “helping out those in need”. And honestly that’s the whole point of doing these things in the first place – to help the npc’s in the area that need these things done (while also getting to know the area/lore of course). Also if we continued to get rewarded for doing these things it just continues to give you that feeling that you really are helping these npcs out as the reward is the “thank you” from them.

I’m not asking for huge rewards, actually something really really small would be good enough for me. Say something like 1 karma for each thing done perhaps or another bar fills like the original would and once filled maybe a small karma or cash boost.

Now personally I am an altaholic and have 5 chars with world complete so far and working on my 6-8 getting there. While doing my alts I have been thinking to myself “this cash is pretty nice for completing hearts/maps but what then once all 8 chars have 100% complete?”. Will I stuggle to gain cash as easily? Perhaps this is why so many people say it’s hard to make cash because they don’t level alts and continue to get this cash from heart/map completes.

So again adding such a reward for continuing to do heart activities after the heart is complete could help there as well as give people incentives to perhaps go back to those areas and do things that they have not done for so long. Also MOST places are just totally pointless to visit again once the heart is done, this could totally change that.

In short, reward us for continuing to help out the inhabitants of the world and make it seem like we truely are making a difference. Turn these area’s mini quests into sort of mini DE’s in themself that we can muck about with while waiting for the real DE’s to kick in.

Thoughts?

PS Please do not put this thread in “sugestions” sure I might offer a couple of ideas here but the intent was more as a discussion to get an idea for the thoughts of others.

Thanks

I’m not against the idea in theory…I’m just wondering how easily it might or might not be abused. It’s always the few abusers who ruin stuff for everyone else.

Also the programming time to add something like this might take more than you’d think.

Its a great idea if it was not for the propensity of people to abuse events. There are certain heart events that are easier to do than others, and even those still you would then be able to mass farm. For example, I point you to the event in cursed shore right now that is being heavily abused as it simulates an endless DE.

I do think something needs to be done, as I find, even while leveling, that hanging around or searching for a DE is quite frankly a waste of time when I can just go to the next heart. If I had some reward other than the minor exp for killing mobs, then I might hang around a heart area waiting for a DE, which would help the life of those areas.

But quite frankly, except for heavily populate servers, most heart zones are dead as a doornail. I advocate random special yellow chests for events all over, to encourage people to not use dragon timers. Unfortunately someone would find a way to abuse that as well, which brings us back to the original problem.

I understand what you are both saying with regards to botting/abuse etc. Actually I had thought to post this a few days ago but held off due to thinking about that myself. After second thoughts tho I figured well people will always try to find ways to abuse the game and thus far Anet has done an excellent job dealing with it (from what I have seen). So I thought well we should NEVER let the potential abuse from others stop us from thinking of or adding new ideas/things to the game. Deal with those as/when they come.

Thanks for your replies so far.

I like the idea as well. Many times after completing a heart, I’ve thought “oh well, I’m not needed here anymore, even though the orchard is obviously still full of spiders or the cam kitten till overrun with centaurs.”

The only thought I would add is that the award for each incremental “help unit” (say, 10 more dead arachnids or 12 more bandits or what have you) should be small enough to avoid the inevitable heart camping that would occur otherwise.

evidently I need to rewrite my response because of foul language. I should have said that “centaurs still exist in the camp” I guess.

Woodbine.2514:

I like the idea as well. Many times after completing a heart, I’ve thought “oh well, I’m not needed here anymore, even though the orchard is obviously still full of spiders or the cam kitten till overrun with centaurs.”

The only thought I would add is that the award for each incremental “help unit” (say, 10 more dead arachnids or 12 more bandits or what have you) should be small enough to avoid the inevitable heart camping that would occur otherwise.

evidently I need to rewrite my response because of foul language. I should have said that “centaurs still exist in the camp” I guess.

Oh I agree that the rewards should be so small so that you wouldn’t want to do these things over say an actual DE if it came up or to move on to the next heart if not done yet or map complete.

In fact I would go as far as to say perhaps this option does not kick in until the map is complete or even the world map to that extent. So that the intended purpose is actually done – have these things be something we can do AFTER maps/world complete and we can’t do any of them again unless starting a new alt of course.

Now what if all Heart Quests could be turned into dailies? Say you get registered for completing them the first time for world completions sake, but from then on they reset every day? Sounds awesome to me!

if only i could help low lvl ppl doing their harts, i would be happy… i dnt even need any reward.

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

if only i could help low lvl ppl doing their harts, i would be happy… i dnt even need any reward.

You can. Help them kill the mobs in the hearts by attacking the same one they are. Helps them do it fast and in some cases stay alive if they pull some adds. You could also show them where to go if they are not sure and what to do.

Shirkwit.7396:

Now what if all Heart Quests could be turned into dailies? Say you get registered for completing them the first time for world completions sake, but from then on they reset every day? Sounds awesome to me!

Sounds to me like they would be very fast dailies, then again that’s not a bad thing lol.

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

if only i could help low lvl ppl doing their harts, i would be happy… i dnt even need any reward.

That’s kind of how I play in the lower levels now.
I’ll purposely use a support build and follow lower level folks offering buffs and heals while they do their thing. Sometimes I’ll come in to stomp on a vet or high health monster for fun.

Though I do enjoy the premise of hearts being reworked for dailies, almost like a ‘keep up with…’ activity to see if things are going okay for that NPC.

Oh I just happened to drop by the apple orchard. What’s that you say? Spiders still? I’ll stomp a few and then that contributed to my daily along with my daily kills.

I do still visit some karma dealers because peaches and apples are cheaper that way for me.

Anymore thoughts or ideas on this?

JustTrogdor.7892:

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

if only i could help low lvl ppl doing their harts, i would be happy… i dnt even need any reward.

You can. Help them kill the mobs in the hearts by attacking the same one they are. Helps them do it fast and in some cases stay alive if they pull some adds. You could also show them where to go if they are not sure and what to do.

exactly. but what about all the other ways to finish the hart except killing? i want team hart bars that get filled by all pt members participating, no matter if someone did the hart before. i dnt need any reward.

Some quests are far easier than others. I know some that can be completed in a minute or so (For example: Bloodtide coast, crab one is really easy). If you were to be awarded again and again with it, I could probably stack up a nice pile of riches very easily.