Guild Wars 2

Anet, I have searched high and low without success. I am trying to find simple “pants” for my human elementalist.

However, the only set I found that I liked, was the Aetherblade heavy armor. But discovered my character cannot use the skin because she is a light armor wearer. Why does it appear differently on light armor wearer? In my opinion it should look the same regardless of what level of armor my character actually can use.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/can-t-use-Aetherblade-Heavy-Armor-style/first#post6003483

The heavy set gives me the look I am after, but for my light armor I get a skirt? If you look at all these “light” armor sets, you cannot see any simple pants anywhere.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Human_female_light_armor

i use the genie pants from the embroidered set. maybe illustrious would also work

Female cloths are crap. Clearly the target demographic is 14-18 year old males.

I gave up long ago and just bought a Jungle Explorer Outfit.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Jungle_Explorer_Outfit

I don’t believe that the cause of girl gamers is served by this sexist bias. Just my opinion.

One of the good things about female Charr using male armor is that the male light armor Ascalonian pants is a simple, simple pair of pants with no skirt or strange flaps hanging down. I previewed every pair of pants on my female Charr ele and found that one lone pair of pants that didn’t get on my nerves with excess fabric hanging off it or having weird holes in it.

No such luck on my female human Mesmer. I put the jungle outfit on her.

But that is not the look I want. Currently I have been using this look. Illustrious I think is the name of it. But even so, the “short shorts” over tights is still not what I want. They also have silly lace things around them and just looks stupid, but it is better than all the other idiotic leggings I have looked at.

Calling a piece of gear “pants” or “leggings” begs the question when you preview it and it looks like a tutu, short skirt or front open skirt that looks like it came directly out of a bordello.

Medium legs actually look like pants on my female, but because I wear light gear, they won’t work.

Ampa.2749:

Female cloths are crap. Clearly the target demographic is 14-18 year old males.

I gave up long ago and just bought a Jungle Explorer Outfit.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Jungle_Explorer_Outfit

I don’t believe that the cause of girl gamers is served by this sexist bias. Just my opinion.

Girl gamers…well, I don’t quite fit that category since I am over 70 years of age. I am beyond frilly lacy stuff that I see.

I need pants for my mesmer too. I wish I can use some of medium skins like Ley-Line pants on her. I currently use the pants from AC dungeon because it looks a bit like leggings and the short skirt piece doesn’t ruined the look that much.

I think the only option is the embroidered leggings.

But that’s just from memory, and I’ve always wanted skirts for my light armoured girls so I wasn’t specifically looking for trousers. (I have the opposite problem, I want just a skirt on one of them but so many seem to be a skirt or robe over trousers or leggings.)

Those are Exalted leggings not Illustrious. Personally I prefer the Illustrious look. I also have a set using the Incarnate leggings which, despite having those wings, actually look a lot like leather pants.

Ampa.2749:

Female cloths are crap. Clearly the target demographic is 14-18 year old males.

I gave up long ago and just bought a Jungle Explorer Outfit.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Jungle_Explorer_Outfit

I don’t believe that the cause of girl gamers is served by this sexist bias. Just my opinion.

Hey, nothing against that great outfuit. I love it and its great to use the legendary (high defense) mini skirts on my 30 same looking female chars ingame. Of course always with mini kasemeer in her bikini.

PS: 26 year old male gamer and yes I don’t either care if you use only male chars with farens legendary titan speedos

Ampa.2749:

Female cloths are crap. Clearly the target demographic is 14-18 year old males.

I gave up long ago and just bought a Jungle Explorer Outfit.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Jungle_Explorer_Outfit

I don’t believe that the cause of girl gamers is served by this sexist bias. Just my opinion.

it’s only sexist if you think only females should wear certain clothing.

The only pants I have found are Ascalon light pants and Profane pants. On female they look different.

Here’s an original simple pants design I made.Hope you like the colours.

Did you go to your bank and hit wardrobe then filter by light pants and preview all the current options? Some you may have to do special missions for, but if its worth the look it’s worth the time. You may also discover that certain pants look completely different when paired with a different top.

I for one tried to create the Trinity look on one of my human ncromancers and nailed almost everything except the trench coat, it’s close but not perfect.

Ampa.2749:

Female cloths are crap. Clearly the target demographic is 14-18 year old males.

I gave up long ago and just bought a Jungle Explorer Outfit.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Jungle_Explorer_Outfit

I don’t believe that the cause of girl gamers is served by this sexist bias. Just my opinion.

Human female? Light armor? Congrats! You dress like a prostitute with a crippling lace addiction!

It’s not funny, ANet. Seriously, knock it off and give them some practical clothes without resorting to outfits.

There are pants. You have to accept minor flaws like i have with what i want. Devout and student armor sets have pants and the ascalonian performer have leggings at the very least. And op dont bother bringing in sexism cause that is a foolish acusation considering there are male armor sets like gladiator that show plenty of skin and the main characters are lesbians and have the largest spotlight…

Well to be fair the male light armor characters are stuck with a lot of dresses too …

Aarean.5398:

There are pants. You have to accept minor flaws like i have with what i want. Devout and student armor sets have pants and the ascalonian performer have leggings at the very least. And op dont bother bringing in sexism cause that is a foolish acusation considering there are male armor sets like gladiator that show plenty of skin and the main characters are lesbians and have the largest spotlight…

If and when I use the term sexist, I am referring to a female wanting to wear “pants,” only to be given short skirts, tutus, or partial skirt with front cut open to show legs with garters and stockings (this last item looks to me like a bordello outfit from centuries ago). Such outfits are not by choice, but foisted on the player under a false tag.

I am not against women, or men for that matter, who want to wear such outfits, but to foist the look onto something that clearly says “pants” or “leggings” in the tool tip and have it morph into something else entirely, is my argument.

Also, I find it odd that if you look at those same “pants” or “leggings” on a female who can only wear medium or heavy gear, they look exactly like what the tool tip says they are. But these very same items morph on a light armor wearer? Please ….I do not wish to wear such things.

Why is it so hard to understand that when you have a tool tip saying “pants” or “leggings” that you actually expect to see that on your female light armor?

It would offend me to no end going into Macy’s to purchase “pants” or “leggings,” then picking up said item to try on in the dressing room, only to find I am now wearing a skirt, tutu or skirt with front cut open accompanied by garters and hose?

I think Macy’s would land in court for false advertisement at the very least.

But my point here is: Why on earth can’t female light armor wearers get the same look from “pants” or “leggings” as their medium and heavy armor counterpart compatriots?

I listed several armor sets that include leg coverage. I will say it again more clearly. YOU have to accept SHORTCOMINGS to your expectations like I HAVE with the realistic looking armor set i have tried to put together for my main. Nothing is perfect unless you can design it for yourself.

I agree with OP. There are no actual pants for light female humans. The closest thing there is are the ascalon pants, which I have my norn ele wearing, but it still has some kind of skirt type of thing. Anyway, it’s the only thing that feels remotely like wearing actual pants.

Mesmers in gw1 got pants, why no light pants in gw2?

Here’s the ones I think work best if you’re looking to avoid a skirt on a human/norn/sylvari female in light armour. (I was going to factor in cultural armour but it doesn’t look like any of them are appropriate anyway.)

Ascalonian Performer Pants
Has a close fitting mini skirt at the top but it’s easy to dye it to look like part of the top, and otherwise looks like trousers.

Country Pants
As above – although the skirt is longer than on Ascalonian Performer so it may not be ideal, but it’s probably the most widely available option.

Embroidered Pants
IMO the best choice for this purpose. They look like baggy ‘genie pants’. There’s a separate piece on the top (which again can be dyed separately) but it’s not particularly noticeable. Some people have a problem with the fact that there are small openings on the hips but I’d hardly consider it revealing.

Exalted Pants
They look like leggings with a 1/2 skirt/‘butt cape’ down one side. Probably the fanciest option, lots of lace.

Incarnate Pants
They have huge loops of fabric to either side, but I’ve seen some people put together looks that make that less noticeable and otherwise they’re just trousers.

Primative Legwraps
There’s a flap of fabric sticking out at the back but otherwise they’re plain leggings. The tricky part is that they include a line of skulls hanging from the belt and, as the name implies, the overall look is very rough and primeval, so it may only work on certain characters.

Profane Pants
In the plus column they share the top spot with the Embroidered Pants as the ones with absolutely no skirt, cape, flap or any other kind of fabric hanging below the waistline. In the minus column the big gap between the crotch part and the leggings manages to make them seem revealing and the strappy leather/metal leggings look probably only suits certain characters. (I’m trying to be objective here but I have to admit they’re probably my least favourite light armour.)

Student Leggings
Very similar to Ascalonian and Country Pants. A short skirt (same length as Country in the back, Ascalonian in the front) and otherwise plain leggings. (One down side is that the skirt part shares 1 dye channel with the leggings so it’s a bit harder to make them look completely separate.

So in summary my favourites are the Embroidered Pants, followed by Ascalonian Performer and Student. Embroidered and Student have the benefit of being very easy to get (Embroidered is 1st tier crafted, worth about 3s on the TP and Student is 1st tier looted).

If I was going for a casual, modernish look I’d use Embroidered and combine them with something like the Country Coat or Magician Coat.

And if that’s not enough give up and get the Jungle outfit. (Although as someone who typically wears jeans and t-shirts in real life the Embroidered/Country combo actually looks more like something I’d wear. The jungle outfit has too many things strapped to it.)

Aarean.5398:

I listed several armor sets that include leg coverage. I will say it again more clearly. YOU have to accept SHORTCOMINGS to your expectations like I HAVE with the realistic looking armor set i have tried to put together for my main. Nothing is perfect unless you can design it for yourself.

…sigh, if folks did not address this “oversight” in light armor gear, Anet will probably continue to NOT offer something a lot of players might want.

It does nothing to ignore and accept anything. If suggestions are made and Anet actually looks into them, there just might be some changes made. After all, they have made changes before.

I have been trying to snag together different items for an outfit. I’ve come close to what I want but its not perfect ..except for the missing “pants” or “leggings” issue, its close but as they say, “no cigar” yet.

Also, if I go with an “outfit” I am stuck with the entire thing not just one part of the outfit. It would be nice if we could separate bottoms, from tops in order to mix and match what we want from outfits, but I gather the reason Anet created “outfits” to begin with was to offer a complete look without having to cobble together different items for it.

Women in pants, men in skin-baring armors and outfits. Not going to happen, because I suspect someone at ANet feels these are somehow psychologically threatening.

Yeah female light armor “variety” is quite limited. I ended up with just Forgemans because that was the only “armor” that truly looked like armor.

Lynn i just want to make sure you understand AMPA brought up sexism. Your post is reasonable. The only issue is that anet disagrees with your assessment of their armor availability. They want armor weights to look different from each other hence the aetherblade situation. BUT posting requests for normal skintight pants like on the aeather heavy armorset is reasonable. The baggy embroidered dont suit your style. Just keep posting and letting anet know your desires and DONT bring in stupid arguments like ampa did. Anet is a perfectly fair company that panders enough as it is.

Embroidered pants are probably the closest thing to just pants you can get for light armor that are pretty basic unless you managed to grab Conjuror pants or unlock some of you HoM and grab the Heritage Skin.

The armors transform depending the sex of the character wearing it. That is quintaessential sexism.

Bringing sexism up as an issue in this videogame is beyond asinine. This game goes beyond pandering for sensitive people. Having your own opinion on the matter is fine. Acusing anet of sexism is not fine because they offer a wide variety of options in their videogame they own under their rights.

Ampa.2749:

Female cloths are crap. Clearly the target demographic is 14-18 year old males.

I gave up long ago and just bought a Jungle Explorer Outfit.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Jungle_Explorer_Outfit

I don’t believe that the cause of girl gamers is served by this sexist bias. Just my opinion.

I know, right! It’s impossible to be female and like those skimpy outfits.

Wait a second, that’s sexist. It’s not so easy these days where literally everything is offensive.

Lol yeah definitely not easy. Especially the people that start issues over equality when the opportunity is there for everyone equally. If you dont take the opportunity thats your fault. But in regards for female light armor. Its all opinionated. I see a nice variety in what is available and that base will only grow with time.

There’s a difference between skimpy vs. full coverage and having a range of clothing styles.

If all you’re concerned about is how much skin is showing I actually think GW2’s female armour gives you a great range of options. Light armour for example has everything from Devout (where only your face is visible) to Apprentice (which is basically a strappy bikini) and if you mix and match pieces you can get even more options (e.g. devout top with something like the Aurora leggings which are a mini skirt and tights for something that’s still full coverage but less overtly modest.)

But virtually all of the armour on offer is the same style – in this case a top and skirt or skirt/leggings combo. For medium armour it’s long coats and trousers (in contrast to light about 90% of medium leg armour is plain trousers) and for heavy of course it’s plate/chain/scale mail.

(There’s also a serious lack of revealing male armour. Apart from a few heavy pieces you’ll have a hard time even having bear arms and apparently shorts have yet to be invented in Tyria.)

And as a result, light armor I often resort to using outfits.

Too much light armor resembles curtains more than actual clothing.

ArchonWing.9480:

And as a result, light armor I often resort to using outfits.

Too much light armor resembles curtains more than actual clothing.

OMG………when I read your post, I turned to look at my windows….which, incidentally, actually are covered with translucent sheers. But, the image of my ele wearing curtains is definitely cringeworthy.

lol

ArchonWing.9480:

And as a result, light armor I often resort to using outfits.

Too much light armor resembles curtains more than actual clothing.

Sorry, but it has to be linked:

Danikat.8537:

There’s a difference between skimpy vs. full coverage and having a range of clothing styles.

If all you’re concerned about is how much skin is showing I actually think GW2’s female armour gives you a great range of options. Light armour for example has everything from Devout (where only your face is visible) to Apprentice (which is basically a strappy bikini) and if you mix and match pieces you can get even more options (e.g. devout top with something like the Aurora leggings which are a mini skirt and tights for something that’s still full coverage but less overtly modest.)

But virtually all of the armour on offer is the same style – in this case a top and skirt or skirt/leggings combo. For medium armour it’s long coats and trousers (in contrast to light about 90% of medium leg armour is plain trousers) and for heavy of course it’s plate/chain/scale mail.

(There’s also a serious lack of revealing male armour. Apart from a few heavy pieces you’ll have a hard time even having bear arms and apparently shorts have yet to be invented in Tyria.)

This is sadly very true. Unfortunately, the Devout style also includes a skirt.

As for male armor, I have seen a few characters running around with crossed straps for tops and the speedo bottoms. Not sure how they achieved that, but it was interesting.

I know a lot of movies with “heros” tend to have skimpy male attire for their costumes, but I’ve not seen many reproduced in this game.

Palador.2170:

ArchonWing.9480:

And as a result, light armor I often resort to using outfits.

Too much light armor resembles curtains more than actual clothing.

Sorry, but it has to be linked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6bOpJ5elW8

I remember that episode. I laughed till I cried…she carried it off so well too.

lynspottery.6529:

Danikat.8537:

There’s a difference between skimpy vs. full coverage and having a range of clothing styles.

If all you’re concerned about is how much skin is showing I actually think GW2’s female armour gives you a great range of options. Light armour for example has everything from Devout (where only your face is visible) to Apprentice (which is basically a strappy bikini) and if you mix and match pieces you can get even more options (e.g. devout top with something like the Aurora leggings which are a mini skirt and tights for something that’s still full coverage but less overtly modest.)

But virtually all of the armour on offer is the same style – in this case a top and skirt or skirt/leggings combo. For medium armour it’s long coats and trousers (in contrast to light about 90% of medium leg armour is plain trousers) and for heavy of course it’s plate/chain/scale mail.

(There’s also a serious lack of revealing male armour. Apart from a few heavy pieces you’ll have a hard time even having bear arms and apparently shorts have yet to be invented in Tyria.)

This is sadly very true. Unfortunately, the Devout style also includes a skirt.

As for male armor, I have seen a few characters running around with crossed straps for tops and the speedo bottoms. Not sure how they achieved that, but it was interesting.

I know a lot of movies with “heros” tend to have skimpy male attire for their costumes, but I’ve not seen many reproduced in this game.

I think some people use a ‘work around’ where they pick close-fitting armour and dye it to look like their characters skin.

OK, last comment from me.

Which of these women do you want to see standing next to you in Dragon’s Stand? Pants or no pants?

Strong female role models can be sexy without lace curtain outfits.

I personally would prefer to see any of the women wearing pants.

To each their own. Dress you characters as you wish. I have two males and two females and have fun changing their looks. But leveling my female Norn took me through a strange collection of armor that eventually led to the Jungle Explorer Outfit. Hey, that’s just me.

Council ministry shoes can look like as ‘pants’ in combination with some other clothing.
(for example the ascended skin for pants + the council ministry shoes ).

I wish I could afford any ascended gear…I just beggared myself for ascended weapons. But that still doesn’t address my initial concern. Why don’t light armor for females have plain pants?

I took a screen shot of the costume armor that my Rift Mage wears in game. If that game can do the pants theme, then I know GW2 can do it as well. This is similar to what I am attempting to find (not necessarily with the hat).

The gear she is wearing actually are separate pieces I chose to achieve the look. I do not see any reason why GW2 cannot do something similar.

“Also, if I go with an “outfit” I am stuck with the entire thing not just one part of the outfit. It would be nice if we could separate bottoms, from tops in order to mix and match what we want from outfits, but I gather the reason Anet created “outfits” to begin with was to offer a complete look without having to cobble together different items for it.”

Yeah we probably shouldn’t bring up that entirely different and 100+ page thread about Town Clothes…

Anyway, I too wish there were more “pants” available for light armor users in addition to just more armor sets in general…for everyone. I mean I thought the generic character models were for people who had a hard time knowing the armor as well as graphics quality…I dont see how anyone who doesn’t use them would care if my ele looks like thief but throws fire.

In GW they enforced the differentiation of classes by armor type but it had a silhouette to it and there were no outfits allowed in PvP. In GW2 you can wear outfits and most armor is meaningless for looks since I doubt anyone relies on it as an identifier of a class.

I really wish they would just stop using it as justification for the way they do it. I’m fine with keeping the distinction between light, medium and heavy armor but stop making all heavy sets look like they are metal plated turtles. After a while I began to despise the party dresses, masquerade costumes and noble finery that seemed the only option for my ele who grew up on the streets fighting for her survival.

After you posted your character I tried this…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Suggestion-Armor-Outfit-gender-option/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Female-Light-Armor-Leggings-All-skirts/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Pants-Pants-Pants/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/More-pants-not-skirts-pls/first
…etc.

We’ve been asking for non-skirt options since beta.

Necrotic that is pretty close..although I think the hat has a bit more at the top than my coolie one and your outfit still has that short skirt over the top of the pants.

However, It would be really cool if they had the Vampire hunter hat and costumes.

Yep, the art design for light AND medium armor is absolute CRAP. Most of it is pathetically sad. It looks like a refuse pile. Heavy has good choices though.

GW1’s armor was much better.

My dog could design better armor for light and medium than the garbage choices we have in GW2.

They want you to buy outfits but they suck also. Especially since you can’t mix and match pieces from outfits.

In every way shape and form the “Play as you want” manifesto IS A LIE.

Palador.2170:

ArchonWing.9480:

And as a result, light armor I often resort to using outfits.

Too much light armor resembles curtains more than actual clothing.

Sorry, but it has to be linked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6bOpJ5elW8

And that really does look like Gw2 armor xD

Something like this?

Etien.4601:

Something like this?

Didn’t read the actual OP? That’s medium armor, not Light.

Profane looks pretty pant-ish – well it looks more like stocking with a garter belt to be more precise. But yes, pants for light armor females would be great – like the Ascalonian performer pants for males.
And now that we are on this subject, could we get some female light armor footwear that isn’t boots and doesn’t look like clogs? Because, honestly, most of the light armor footwear clashes with the rest horribly. You get your female character all nice and gauzy and princessly with glittering wings… and wearing boots or clogs.