Guild Wars 2

You make a fair point about magic find. I did the start of “triple trouble” wurm a few days ago and remembered how none of the initial mobs drop any loot at all.

So many events now have no dropped loot its no surprise that they are having to alter the map events so that we can actually get tier 6 mats and so on.

Just logged in to say I’m pretty mad about this change. I had a lot enchanted boosters saved that i only use in eotm for karma boost. I think they should have let those that already had them still be able to pick karma. Magic find is basically useless because mobs don’t really drop loot and mf doesn’t affect chest and bags, and all my toons are already 80 so exp boost is useless too.

RIP in peace karma boost

this really messed up, they do whatever they want without thinking about the player. my enchanted boosters now is useless. 20 m for the new booster ?? and no old karma booster ?? really ?? karma booster gone → maybe in the near future they will erase the ‘karma’ currency and replace it with some other things and make a new booster for it, and it’s more $$ for em maybe.

While I too hate that the Karma boosts were removed from the Enchanted boosters as I was saving them up for Karma mostly, keep in mind that the new Experience Booster will be quite good as it boosts ALL experience types which would include the upcoming mastery experience things such as gliding, precursor crafting, etc.

I’d like to think Anet was trying to do the right thing here (hey! we released new boosters); but once again, their execution ended up screwing a portion of the existing player base. Why does it always take the vocal “pitchfork and torches” crowd to get Anet to do the right thing here?

I am royally peeved. I have almost 300 Enchanted boosters ( I buy a lot of keys!) I use them for karma. For my legendaries as I hate farming. Now? Just take them away. Those boosters are now useless. I have enough characters I don’t need experience. I dont craft or do any of the other stuff. I may as well destroy those.

SairaJayn.2065:

I am royally peeved. I have almost 300 Enchanted boosters ( I buy a lot of keys!) I use them for karma. For my legendaries as I hate farming. Now? Just take them away. Those boosters are now useless. I have enough characters I don’t need experience. I dont craft or do any of the other stuff. I may as well destroy those.

Not really. You can pull the new boosters out of them as well and they will be a HUGE help in HoT. Though I do hope they do a roll back of the enchanted ones as well since I too have over 300 of the enchanted boosters and would like to pull karma out of about half of them.

oh great sigh oh well i will just put them all in the trash and hope i get no more boosters at all from any chests . sigh

This is bupkis. Even if they had warned us they were going to do this those of us who had already converted them would still be royally hosed. They should make just make new boosters and the old ones we have now keep their karma boosters. This is just not cool.

So people had Karma boosters, converted them with intention of getting Magic Find boosters in their place, Anet retires the Karma booster and those people don’t miss the opertunity to complain and maybe get free stuff. Humanity .. Every day you find a new way to disappoint me.

Coulter.2315:

So people had Karma boosters, converted them with intention of getting Magic Find boosters in their place, Anet retires the Karma booster and those people don’t miss the opertunity to complain and maybe get free stuff. Humanity .. Every day you find a new way to disappoint me.

Where are you seeing all these claims people were converting to magic find use? Lots of people were using karma boosters. I never converted karma boosters. But I did convert boosters other than karma boosters to the combined ones, so I could get more karma boosters since I can always use more karma. And I’m not too impressed with the new 20 minute options put in. Seems like a waste of a booster to use those.

Wildkitten.3872:

SairaJayn.2065:

I am royally peeved. I have almost 300 Enchanted boosters ( I buy a lot of keys!) I use them for karma. For my legendaries as I hate farming. Now? Just take them away. Those boosters are now useless. I have enough characters I don’t need experience. I dont craft or do any of the other stuff. I may as well destroy those.

Not really. You can pull the new boosters out of them as well and they will be a HUGE help in HoT. Though I do hope they do a roll back of the enchanted ones as well since I too have over 300 of the enchanted boosters and would like to pull karma out of about half of them.

I’ve just stated I have no need for the other boosts. Also you’re assuming I want HoT. Because you know.. not everyone does.

Hapmuhr.2781:

This is downright dishonest to do this. We were sold on the idea that if we used these boosters, we’d maximize our storage space and consolidate our available boosters. I would have never used up my karma boosters otherwise. Now I’m sitting with ~30 boosters that have been massively nerfed.

I’m very upset with this change since that was karma potential I had stockpiled in preparation for HoT.

OK, I’m also upset. But let’s try to avoid the hyperbole: this wasn’t “dishonest” — it was a bug, an unintended consequence of something else, or they thought they were improving the boosts for us (only to find we disagreed). It’s fixable.

Only real reason I ever carried them was for karma :/

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Hapmuhr.2781:

This is downright dishonest to do this. We were sold on the idea that if we used these boosters, we’d maximize our storage space and consolidate our available boosters. I would have never used up my karma boosters otherwise. Now I’m sitting with ~30 boosters that have been massively nerfed.

I’m very upset with this change since that was karma potential I had stockpiled in preparation for HoT.

OK, I’m also upset. But let’s try to avoid the hyperbole: this wasn’t “dishonest” — it was a bug, an unintended consequence of something else, or they thought they were improving the boosts for us (only to find we disagreed). It’s fixable.

Was it really?

I have yet to see a response saying it is. It doesn’t take 11 hours to say “Oops, sorry guys. Just hang on and we’ll fix that for you soon.”

Can I ask what you need so much Karma for, I gain a lot from doing things, but I not really found a need to use it except for the free gear while leveling.

TJgalon.5012:

Can I ask what you need so much Karma for, I gain a lot from doing things, but I not really found a need to use it except for the free gear while leveling.

Well, just one example is you can get any sort of cloth from jute to silk just with karma. I’m not going to go into the process of how, but it’s not complicated at all.

TJgalon.5012:

Can I ask what you need so much Karma for, I gain a lot from doing things, but I not really found a need to use it except for the free gear while leveling.

For me, I’m buying every karma skin in the game for my wardrobe. With the cultural weapons costing up to 63,000 karma for each one and there being 5 sets, that’s 5,985,000 karma for that alone. Then of course there’s all the heart karma skins, the Temple skins at 42k karma each, the Lionguard and the Ebon Vanguard weapon sets, but I mostly have them now. And I bought a lot of obsidian shards (a couple of stacks at least) with karma in order to do ascended crafting. This was before the Silverwastes was introduced,

Ok, I just wonder, I guess I not really been talking to the NPCs, but hopfully this karma booster just a bug to be fix asap.

Just you watch as someone deletes them because no karma booster, a fix comes out and they’ll be here howling to high heavens.

ArchonWing.9480:

Why…. would they do this? I don’t get it at all.

I would never pick a karma boost anyways, and it’s not like karma does that much anyways, but this is ridiculous.

Because they can, its not the first time they’ve done something like this,

Its clear that karma is probably either being phased out, or you need massive amounts of it when HoT is released so they removed the booster early, to increase the grind later,

Sadly as for those saying its bad business etc, they don’t care, anyone remember the Infinite Continue Coin that give you unlimited tries for SAB, then POOF Sab disappeared, ( but apparently it may return 1 day ) but you cant get a refund on them coins as it “might” return 1 day.

If you don’t want to get caught in shady business dealings do not buy anything from the Gem store, else expect anything that u buy from there to be changed and or removed without notice.

I didn’t use boosters that much, but I don’t like the way they have moved boosters into an RnG lottery.

pretty disappointed in this change myself and the lack of any warning i have 113 enchanted boosters in my bank atm many of them once karma boosts i paid and sacrificed in order to combine
so i thought i potentially had 113 karma boosters and log in to find out i actually have none and the duration reduction is just dumb as hell ive lost 4520 mins worth of buff time luckily im not the type to spend real life cash on bl keys but i know a few players who do and have stacks of this stuff they paid real life money for can only imagine how anoyed they will be at this

cant help but feel like this is just yet another in a long line if ill conceived ideas cooked up by anet just like past classics such as the nerff to karma jugs with no warning
i can understand Anet wanting to revamp the boosters in the gem store to make them more appealing and worth getting. but why dose it have to include a nerff on things ive earned/paid for and even sacrificed in order to stack and accumulate

Anet should reverse this change for the time being its total overkill in order to push there new gem store boosters

thefinnster.7105:

pretty disappointed in this change myself and the lack of any warning i have 113 enchanted boosters in my bank atm many of them once karma boosts i paid and sacrificed in order to combine
so i thought i potentially had 113 karma boosters

why would you turn karma into enchanted if those are the ones you wanted? you’re halving the number of karma boosts you have available by doing that.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

TJgalon.5012:

Can I ask what you need so much Karma for, I gain a lot from doing things, but I not really found a need to use it except for the free gear while leveling.

For me, I’m buying every karma skin in the game for my wardrobe. With the cultural weapons costing up to 63,000 karma for each one and there being 5 sets, that’s 5,985,000 karma for that alone. Then of course there’s all the heart karma skins, the Temple skins at 42k karma each, the Lionguard and the Ebon Vanguard weapon sets, but I mostly have them now. And I bought a lot of obsidian shards (a couple of stacks at least) with karma in order to do ascended crafting. This was before the Silverwastes was introduced,

This is the reason why I’ve been farming karma. Only have the t3 cultural weapon skins, the Ebon Vanguard, Lionguard and some Pirate to go.

That and I still need tons for obby shards for legendaries, ascended items and Cragstone, but one can always get those from SW nowadays. After I get those, unless they add in more karma skins, that’s when I’ll put my karma farmin’ to rest.

Karma boosters were the only booster I found worth it since I spend my karma on stuff, whether it be legendary related or for gold. I would convert all my non-karma boosters into Enchanted boosters so that I could turn those boosters essentially worthless to me into something worthwhile. Thank you ANet for screwing me over with this update. I really appreciate it. (Sarcasm if you couldn’t tell)

Narrrz.7532:

thefinnster.7105:

pretty disappointed in this change myself and the lack of any warning i have 113 enchanted boosters in my bank atm many of them once karma boosts i paid and sacrificed in order to combine
so i thought i potentially had 113 karma boosters

why would you turn karma into enchanted if those are the ones you wanted? you’re halving the number of karma boosts you have available by doing that.

for bank space i did it with all my boosters just so they would be in one neat pile the frequency of witch i use karma boosters is low atm and it just made more sense to stack them for me even if it did come at a loss i was able to earn them at a faster rate than i used them

I paid a lot of real money for keys opening thousands of chests over a long period of time; collecting this abundance of lovely boosts of which I always convert to the enchanted ones, hence the “convenient, space saving booster that let’s you choose which particular one you want aka karma/magic find boosts” only to have ANet come along and butcher that option entirely with zero pre-warning.

If I knew karma boosters out of the enchanted boosters would be removed that is fine by me, I could have splurged them all on one toon so I could still use them… and that is where I believe ANet has made wrong doing.

The ability to choose the karma buffs from the enchanted boosts must be in place because people rightfully and intentionally made payments for boost powders just so they could have their karma boosters packaged into the convenient enchantment ones.

ANet has ripped us off and I find it a shrewd, ill move on their behalf.

Pockets.3201:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Hapmuhr.2781:

This is downright dishonest to do this. We were sold on the idea that if we used these boosters, we’d maximize our storage space and consolidate our available boosters. I would have never used up my karma boosters otherwise. Now I’m sitting with ~30 boosters that have been massively nerfed.

I’m very upset with this change since that was karma potential I had stockpiled in preparation for HoT.

OK, I’m also upset. But let’s try to avoid the hyperbole: this wasn’t “dishonest” — it was a bug, an unintended consequence of something else, or they thought they were improving the boosts for us (only to find we disagreed). It’s fixable.

Was it really?

I have yet to see a response saying it is. It doesn’t take 11 hours to say “Oops, sorry guys. Just hang on and we’ll fix that for you soon.”

And you won’t (probably) see such a response. It doesn’t take “11 hours” — it takes someone on staff dedicated to responding to forum queries and minor (though annoying) issues, instead of working on the game directly.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Pockets.3201:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Hapmuhr.2781:

This is downright dishonest to do this. We were sold on the idea that if we used these boosters, we’d maximize our storage space and consolidate our available boosters. I would have never used up my karma boosters otherwise. Now I’m sitting with ~30 boosters that have been massively nerfed.

I’m very upset with this change since that was karma potential I had stockpiled in preparation for HoT.

OK, I’m also upset. But let’s try to avoid the hyperbole: this wasn’t “dishonest” — it was a bug, an unintended consequence of something else, or they thought they were improving the boosts for us (only to find we disagreed). It’s fixable.

Was it really?

I have yet to see a response saying it is. It doesn’t take 11 hours to say “Oops, sorry guys. Just hang on and we’ll fix that for you soon.”

And you won’t (probably) see such a response. It doesn’t take “11 hours” — it takes someone on staff dedicated to responding to forum queries and minor (though annoying) issues, instead of working on the game directly.

I would think that would be a job for their Forum Communication Team Lead, of which they have one.

Pockets.3201:

It doesn’t take 11 hours to say “Oops, sorry guys. Just hang on and we’ll fix that for you soon.”

At anet it can take up to 1 year or even more to type that. “We are not sure if this is a bug” is more likely to appear if change was not intended.

Good thing you signed the ToS when starting to play the game. The developers have the right at anytime to change parts of the game. Move on from it, when ever the developers have to go back and try to help the people upset with a change it takes away from things moving forward. Things change, if you do not like it go play a single player never updated game.

Sorry to sound not considerate but when ever something changes in the game there are always the people that have the “I want to be compensated for you changing that” mentality.

Zypher.7609:

Good thing you signed the ToS when starting to play the game. The developers have the right at anytime to change parts of the game. Move on from it, when ever the developers have to go back and try to help the people upset with a change it takes away from things moving forward. Things change, if you do not like it go play a single player never updated game.

Sorry to sound not considerate but when ever something changes in the game there are always the people that have the “I want to be compensated for you changing that” mentality.

They should, at the very least, explain the change if it was an intentional one. Not just slip it in there and hope no one notices and then hide and say nothing when people inevitably do.

The release notes do state that the way players can obtain Karma boosters have been now changed.

It’s no bug. It’s intentional and there’s no explanation. No warning. This is seriously a problem that I feel they need to address!

I want back what was paid for & bought.

I am SUPER upset about my Karma boosters being gone… now I have more than 100 enchanted reward boosters, which I spent gold using dust to convert my other boosters for karma… and now it’s not an option.

It wouldn’t even be so bad if I already didn’t get hit with DR so hard in Silverwastes to begin with. The booster made it less infuriating, as I could do a couple of rounds with the booster to make up for the fact that I was going to start getting 30 karma per event (with karma guild find, karma banner, karma food, and karma booster…)( and I would have to switch characters if I wanted to keep going. So basically, you get punished for doing SW the way you’re supposed to be doing it… but that’s neither here nor there.

If I hadn’t put them all together with the dust, I would have the ability to use them, right? Then why aren’t they on the list? Why is Karma the ONLY one not on the list?? The ONLY one that I need/use.

I"m pretty upset…

Zypher.7609:

Good thing you signed the ToS when starting to play the game. The developers have the right at anytime to change parts of the game. Move on from it, when ever the developers have to go back and try to help the people upset with a change it takes away from things moving forward. Things change, if you do not like it go play a single player never updated game.

Sorry to sound not considerate but when ever something changes in the game there are always the people that have the “I want to be compensated for you changing that” mentality.

Just because they CAN doesn’t mean they SHOULD. I never complain about changes, I never complain about bugs or imbalance. I know that they are doing what they think is best, and I just roll with it. However, I can see no reason why the other boosters are still available, but the karma ones are NOT. They can’t be purchased any more either, but they are a selection from the enchanted rewards boosters… Karma is not.

This HAS to be a bug or an oversight. I mean the icon for the ‘Enchanted Reward Boosts’ still has the purple color on it and everything.

Also why is it like pulling teeth to get official word on this? At least let us know that you are reading this and doing SOMETHING. I mean we can all see that this post has been viewed almost 4k times already. Just say something.

Etybagig.6012:

Also why is it like pulling teeth to get official word on this? At least let us know that you are reading this and doing SOMETHING. I mean we can all see that this post has been viewed almost 4k times already. Just say something.

I’m going to assume either they are trying to decide on or coding in a fix, or due to the rather small amount of folks that it seems to have affected (based on the number of folks actually posting in the various threads) they are hoping it blows over. At least until the end of the week, I’m going to go with the first assumption especially since Anet has a history of usually only responding when they have something definitive to say.

FrostyBou.5491:

Etybagig.6012:

Also why is it like pulling teeth to get official word on this? At least let us know that you are reading this and doing SOMETHING. I mean we can all see that this post has been viewed almost 4k times already. Just say something.

I’m going to assume either they are trying to decide on or coding in a fix, or due to the rather small amount of folks that it seems to have affected (based on the number of folks actually posting in the various threads) they are hoping it blows over. At least until the end of the week, I’m going to go with the first assumption especially since Anet has a history of usually only responding when they have something definitive to say.

They also have a history of not responding when it’s not a mistake and they don’t want to post on forum threads about it. If you look over the forum, you will see that there are other threads and topics that have been responded to since this thread started, one at least by Gayle Gray. Since they have not responded and since they already have taken out karma boosters from the gemstore and said they will be available as ingame rewards only, then my conclusion is, it’s not a bug. imo, they deliberately removed them so that the ingame rewards would be more meaningful.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-August-11-2015/first#post5371666
“Karma Boosters are now available exclusively from in-game rewards.”

Some official word on the reasons behind this would be nice.

Dear Arena

Could you please return back our Karma Booster which I have been diligently saving over these 2.5 years! And suddenly in your ninja nerf without warning, you removed all my 90+ ready merge boosters. I save and merge those with the powder enhancement just for the Karma Boosters!!!!!

It’s not like we are cheating or anything. This is a major turn off.

Please bring back the Karma Boosters.

Find more ways for people to spend their karma. Don’t chop things off like this. This is not cool and shows limited creativity.

UmbraVictor.9842:

Dear Arena

Could you please return back our Karma Booster which I have been diligently saving over these 2.5 years! And suddenly in your ninja nerf without warning, you removed all my 90+ ready merge boosters. I save and merge those with the powder enhancement just for the Karma Boosters!!!!!

It’s not like we are cheating or anything. This is a major turn off.

Please bring back the Karma Boosters.

Find more ways for people to spend their karma. Don’t chop things off like this. This is not cool and shows limited creativity.

Already a huge thread debating the topic on the first page of Guild Wars 2 Discussion.

There’s a good chance this was an oversight or bug, so how about just updating your post to stick with the facts:

• Lots of us saved room by converting specific boosters to enchanted reward boosters, at a cost of 10s/conversion.
• We had every right to expect that we could use these for karma buffs whenever we chose.
• The last update broke this functionality and we’d like it restored.

Gets the same point across.

There’s been a lot of things (like this) that has upset the community over the past 2+ years, most of it never really bothered me. But this one really didn’t sit well with me. The way it happened (no announcements or warnings) just feels wrong.

Coulter.2315:

So people had Karma boosters, converted them with intention of getting Magic Find boosters in their place, Anet retires the Karma booster and those people don’t miss the opertunity to complain and maybe get free stuff. Humanity .. Every day you find a new way to disappoint me.

No.

People were given a way to convert all the boosters taking up space in their bank slots that for whatever reason were useless to them to one “bagged” booster for 10 silver. Now we find out we can no longer use them for karma.

I do not want anything free. Advance warning would have been nice.

If everyone who this affects add to the thread on the bugs forum (currently a whole 3 posts long) as well as /bug it in game rather than … discuss it here, then maybe they may notice that this is an issue with this patch.

IT’S NOT A BUG. LOOK AT THE RELEASE NOTES.

Thank you. Bad search feature in Gw2 forums.

Zalladi.4652:

UmbraVictor.9842:

Dear Arena

Could you please return back our Karma Booster which I have been diligently saving over these 2.5 years! And suddenly in your ninja nerf without warning, you removed all my 90+ ready merge boosters. I save and merge those with the powder enhancement just for the Karma Boosters!!!!!

It’s not like we are cheating or anything. This is a major turn off.

Please bring back the Karma Boosters.

Find more ways for people to spend their karma. Don’t chop things off like this. This is not cool and shows limited creativity.

Already a huge thread debating the topic on the first page of Guild Wars 2 Discussion.

Arena.

This action is clearly a show of half hearted effort put into this. Lack of creativity.

What if someone announce tomorrow effective on that announcement half your money kept in your bank in USD is no longer valid. It will be replaced with i-o-u notes.

Sincerely Disappointed.

Per patch notes:
“Karma Boosters are now available exclusively from in-game rewards.”

This, as posted above, is NOT a bug. This is NOT an oversight by Arenanet. This is an outright, down and dirty blow to the people who support their game.

Half tempted to contact my credit card company and begin charge backs on all the gems I have recently purchased since I am not getting what I initially was paying for.

Yes, I realize MMORPG’s change, but this type of change is absolutely unnecessary and is not thought out.

I WANT to give you my money. STOP giving me reasons to NOT pre-order or buy gems. Jesus… first the infinite coin and now this bull kitten.

EDIT: Yet, I can still convert my karma INTO the enchanted boosters but not back out. Absolutely ridiculous. You make it hard to WANT to invest any time into this game…