Guild Wars 2

Let’s just settle for “vegetative state” then…

Vayne.8563:

Mavis.1463:

Vayne.8563:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Mavis.1463:

saalle.4623:

I do believe that 2015 will be big year for Gw2

Yeah, you don’t get to attend a funeral very often.

While I don’t think GW2 will die, it will porbably stay in a coma.

People said that 2014 would be a great year for GW2 in 2013, but you gotta like getting kicked in the teeth after a falcon punch if you liked the development of GW2 and think 2014 was great for this game.

To each their own. But if it is less that you want, you are probably right with GW2.

It can’t stay in a coma, since it’s not in one now. You know, this is the kind of hyperbole I’m specifically talking about. A coma means no fuctions. You may not like the living story, but it’s still coming out. There’s a PvP update coming in December 2nd.

The state of the game may very well not be to your liking, but it’s not in a coma. And saying so makes me question everything else you have to say.

Metaphors aside.
I’m willing to drop money on games that deliver content, this game is doing the exact opposite, so I will take my money elsewhere.

There’s a game with a far more active community, more players, it delivers content on a steady, constant basis and the developers actually listen to the community.

See that’s my problem. I’d love to find a game that delivers content that I like. This is it. There isn’t another and I’ve tried them all.

I’d love to find a game I like that delivers more content than Anet. But there isn’t one.

Actually, I was referring to FF14.

Mavis.1463:

Vayne.8563:

Mavis.1463:

Vayne.8563:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Mavis.1463:

saalle.4623:

I do believe that 2015 will be big year for Gw2

Yeah, you don’t get to attend a funeral very often.

While I don’t think GW2 will die, it will porbably stay in a coma.

People said that 2014 would be a great year for GW2 in 2013, but you gotta like getting kicked in the teeth after a falcon punch if you liked the development of GW2 and think 2014 was great for this game.

To each their own. But if it is less that you want, you are probably right with GW2.

It can’t stay in a coma, since it’s not in one now. You know, this is the kind of hyperbole I’m specifically talking about. A coma means no fuctions. You may not like the living story, but it’s still coming out. There’s a PvP update coming in December 2nd.

The state of the game may very well not be to your liking, but it’s not in a coma. And saying so makes me question everything else you have to say.

Metaphors aside.
I’m willing to drop money on games that deliver content, this game is doing the exact opposite, so I will take my money elsewhere.

There’s a game with a far more active community, more players, it delivers content on a steady, constant basis and the developers actually listen to the community.

See that’s my problem. I’d love to find a game that delivers content that I like. This is it. There isn’t another and I’ve tried them all.

I’d love to find a game I like that delivers more content than Anet. But there isn’t one.

Actually, I was referring to FF14.

Tried it and hated it. Literally hated it. I wanted to tear my eyeballs out in that leveling system. At any rate, since I don’t care about dungeons and raids, that game to me is pretty much useless. The combat feels dated to me too.

There are other MMOs I might have liked, if it weren’t for specific design decisions but that MMO in particular is just not me.

Said it before, will say it again: since pretty much every major update to the game they’ve made since launch has been the philosophical opposite of what I’d hoped they would do, they’re probably working on some scheme to raise the level cap, whereby to ‘expand’ the parameters of our characters and the game, because they’ve misinterpreted something somewhere because ‘I looked at a metric, hey! I looked at a metric again!’, and they’re probably making a right royal mess of it even as we speak.

Well, it’s the weekend, so maybe not right this instant.

And another thing. Even with the trait system redesign and NPE, leveling new characters is still not tedious and boring enough, so they’re probably working on altering it so that before one can level up, one must collect 10,000 level up tokens per level previously attained and also craft three certificates of leveling (triplicate!) from ascended parchment to be turned in to a level trainer found in each race’s city zone.

This will give players a greater feeling of progression, you see.

Yeah. That’s the sort of stuff I’ve been conditioned in two and a half years of GW2 to expect from anet.

Tachenon.5270:

Said it before, will say it again: since pretty much every major update to the game they’ve made since launch has been the philosophical opposite of what I’d hoped they would do, they’re probably working on some scheme to raise the level cap, whereby to ‘expand’ the parameters of our characters and the game, because they’ve misinterpreted something somewhere because ‘I looked at a metric, hey! I looked at a metric again!’, and they’re probably making a right royal mess of it even as we speak.

Well, it’s the weekend, so maybe not right this instant.

And another thing. Even with the trait system redesign and NPE, leveling new characters is still not tedious and boring enough, so they’re probably working on altering it so that before one can level up, one must collect 10,000 level up tokens per level previously attained and also craft three certificates of leveling (triplicate!) from ascended parchment to be turned in to a level trainer found in each race’s city zone.

This will give players a greater feeling of progression, you see.

Yeah. That’s the sort of stuff I’ve been conditioned in two and a half years of GW2 to expect from anet.

And this is why we’re always at odds. I’m reasonably sure any game you liked a lot, I’d probably hate. Anet can’t please everyone. They can’t really even try to please everyone. If you try to please everyone, no one is happy.

I do understand that the direction of the game, in some ways anyway, has changed from launch. But most of those changes are changes I actually like, including most of the NPE.

We’re not at odds because I’m a mindless fan boy. We’re at odds because you and I want completely different games.

Vayne.8563:

What this guy says has AT LEAST as much meaning as what others are saying. Do you go into the threads of people who say unsubstantiated negative stuff and tell them that they’re wrong for doing that? No.

You come into the thread of someone trying to provide some balance and say I’m wrong for doing it.

Baseless optimism doesn’t counter baseless pessimism. Baseless optimism is the mirror image of baseless pessimism, not the polar opposite. It’s the same thing reversed, not a balance a at the other end of a scale.

darkace.8925:

Vayne.8563:

What this guy says has AT LEAST as much meaning as what others are saying. Do you go into the threads of people who say unsubstantiated negative stuff and tell them that they’re wrong for doing that? No.

You come into the thread of someone trying to provide some balance and say I’m wrong for doing it.

Baseless optimism doesn’t counter baseless pessimism. Baseless optimism is the mirror image of baseless pessimism, not the polar opposite. It’s the same thing reversed, not a balance a at the other end of a scale.

Sure, except this is “less baseless” in my mind than what others are saying. Do you correct them and tell them that their baseless comments are baseless. No. You don’t. You correct me, because you kitten the game differently.

If their comments are as baseless as mine, correct them too. Or stop correcting me. It really is very sound logic.

Vayne.8563:

Sure, except this is “less baseless” in my mind than what others are saying.

Yes. In your mind. It seems there are people that disagree with you on that point.

Until we get Guild Halls in GW2 we are all ‘baseless’!

Astralporing.1957:

Vayne.8563:

Sure, except this is “less baseless” in my mind than what others are saying.

Yes. In your mind. It seems there are people that disagree with you on that point.

And that’s fine. It’s okay to disagree. But if those same people are going to point out every time they don’t agree with me, because what I’m saying has no real evidence to back it up, those same people should do it to other people to. Do you not see the hypocrisy here?

I don’t think Vayne has a point, I don’t believe this means anything. But most people agree that other people’s posts don’t mean anything…but they don’t say it. They say it to me.

If you don’t agree with me, that’s okay. But have the courtesy to apply the same rules and standards to everyone. Otherwise, you’re just picking and choosing to attack someone who’s don’t nothing worse than people you’re ignoring.

I do agree that Anet is not “doing nothing”. I really don’t understand people who claim that Anet is not creating content. New armor and weapon skins, geographic areas, mechanics (like Labyrinth), and especially the Living Storylines are all content and are being added on a regular basis. If people mean that Anet is not adding content they want, they should say that. Its like going to a restaurant and claiming there is no food instead of saying there isn’t anything you want.

However I do agree with those who are concerned with what else Anet is doing. They have some good ideas like the new dye system and wardrobe system. But then they screw it up like making costumes one piece or making some into potions. And the entire NPE was one big question-mark in my opinion. I don’t understand why they took away regular progress and changed it into the stuttering progress we now have. No character power progress for so many levels that you end up weak compared to the mobs at your level is not a smart decision IMO. Changing the hearts in the starter zones to make them simple enough for pre-school children is not a smart decision IMO. etc

Vayne.8563:

Astralporing.1957:

Vayne.8563:

Sure, except this is “less baseless” in my mind than what others are saying.

Yes. In your mind. It seems there are people that disagree with you on that point.

And that’s fine. It’s okay to disagree. But if those same people are going to point out every time they don’t agree with me, because what I’m saying has no real evidence to back it up, those same people should do it to other people to. Do you not see the hypocrisy here?

…well, you are acting exactly that way, so yes, i do see a hypocrisy here. Perhaps it wasn’t the hypocrisy you looked for, though.

Astralporing.1957:

Vayne.8563:

Astralporing.1957:

Vayne.8563:

Sure, except this is “less baseless” in my mind than what others are saying.

Yes. In your mind. It seems there are people that disagree with you on that point.

And that’s fine. It’s okay to disagree. But if those same people are going to point out every time they don’t agree with me, because what I’m saying has no real evidence to back it up, those same people should do it to other people to. Do you not see the hypocrisy here?

…well, you are acting exactly that way, so yes, i do see a hypocrisy here. Perhaps it wasn’t the hypocrisy you looked for, though.

Actually I’m posting something I believe does make a difference, if you recall. You’re the one posting only in threads who see things differently, even though you well know that the people saying those things have no evidence at all.

I think we can let people make up their own minds, but don’t pretend you’re being fair on this point. If you were fair, you’d make comments in threads that lack evidence whether they agree with your assessment or they don’t.

Actually I think this thread has run it’s course. Moderators feel free to close it. It’s just devolved into a circular argument.

Even Vayne is entitled to his opinion.

He just has a hard time with facts.

For now it is a fact, that the stuff that ANet works on is not known to be of any value for GW2. Therefore the whole discussion is based on speculation.

ANet employees are working. They are busy. Someone saw this. Good. Does this necessarily mean anything for GW2? No.

From what we know about the “stuff” it will not improve GW2. As simple as that. Because we don’t know kitten about it.

Vayne.8563:

Actually I think this thread has run it’s course. Moderators feel free to close it. It’s just devolved into a circular argument.

More like this:

This thread is getting TL:DR, and no-one is saying anything worth reading. Time to close it, I think.