They could bring back S1 quite easily. Sure it would be a bit messy but its perfectly doable.
And they could use the mega server to do it. Anyone who has unlocked/gained access to S1 should be able to activate said events on a new underpopulated map. Open a LFG and start inviting players into the S1 map, just like we currently do for SW/meta maps to gain a higher success rate. Rewards should be the same as they were in S1 for completing an invasion map, with an added currency to buy S1 Vendor items that are now locked behind the Laurel Vendor.
S1 could have its own control board, you click a button to spawn yourself into a new map and the events start up. It could be 1 or 2, or even 3 phases to get the story/dynamic content going (such as the portals, maybe they spawn for 3 rounds, then the map completes and closes…ect)
same with Marionette and the before ruined LA.
There is no logical reason they cannot do this. The code for S1 is still around. They just need to build an interface to allow players to access the content on special spawned maps.
And this takes it away from the Personal Story idea and puts it back into a giant, 300man, global map. the way it was first experienced, the same way it should still be experienced.
that is how this could work.
It’s not that easy. If it where I’m sure they would have done it already.
Id rather see a portal spawn at X time for the marionette. So it’s on a timer like other world bosses. Make getting a group easier and such, even though I hate timers.
The only new Fractals in regard of S1 that make sense are:
The different between the first 3 named optins would be, that these 3 fractals would introduce a new type of fractal – Mass Player Fractals, which aren’t just normal fractals where you are alone with your 5 Man Group, but instead where the game will put you automatiucally into a big instance full with 100 players that are currently doing the same fractal level as your group under a squad to raid the nightmare tower/defeat the marionette lanes, liberate lions arch as one big army of players to give you in those fractals the feeling of being in war again, because these 3 potential fractals are exactly the environmental event content of season 1, which can’t be simply repeated, which were all on time events and thus can be repeated only in the fractals.
However, this content to see gettign dumbed down into 5 man content would be so wrong and wouldnt feel right.. its mass player content after all, so the fractal system needs to get improved to allow also special fractals that are designed for mass player content and thus should create instances, where alot of players that play the same fractal level at the moment getz to join the same instance from practically all servers, making usage here of the megaserver system plus additionally cross continental server play to ensure, that there will be always enough people to fill the instances , juzst with the differenc,e that the fractals instances will have this time also more powerful NPCs that become more and strogner to help out for the case that these mass player fractals shouldnt get enough people for example in the marionette fractals to fill up all lanes with enough players or for the lions arch invasion fractal to have enough player dps to beat the 3 bosses in time before scarlet destroys lions arch and then later for the final group battle on her airship.
Everythign else of season 1 is completely restorable under a season 2 design, but these huge environmental dynamic events of season 1, they are practically only restorable as fractals, nothing else would work.
They could bring back S1 quite easily. Sure it would be a bit messy but its perfectly doable.
And they could use the mega server to do it. Anyone who has unlocked/gained access to S1 should be able to activate said events on a new underpopulated map. Open a LFG and start inviting players into the S1 map, just like we currently do for SW/meta maps to gain a higher success rate. Rewards should be the same as they were in S1 for completing an invasion map, with an added currency to buy S1 Vendor items that are now locked behind the Laurel Vendor.
S1 could have its own control board, you click a button to spawn yourself into a new map and the events start up. It could be 1 or 2, or even 3 phases to get the story/dynamic content going (such as the portals, maybe they spawn for 3 rounds, then the map completes and closes…ect)
same with Marionette and the before ruined LA.
There is no logical reason they cannot do this. The code for S1 is still around. They just need to build an interface to allow players to access the content on special spawned maps.
And this takes it away from the Personal Story idea and puts it back into a giant, 300man, global map. the way it was first experienced, the same way it should still be experienced.
that is how this could work.
It’s not that easy. If it where I’m sure they would have done it already.
Id rather see a portal spawn at X time for the marionette. So it’s on a timer like other world bosses. Make getting a group easier and such, even though I hate timers.
How would the Marionette fight become a fractal? We required about 25 players per lane, 5 lanes and fractals are 5 players.
The Marionette is a boss fight, it doesn’t belong to a raid either.
I want to pipe up and say I’d really love to replay it too. If ANet wants my opinion, they should just focus on building the core characters. Braham, Rox, Kasmeer, Marjory and Taimi. Create instances where we the player get to know them outside of being introduced via exposition by one NPC in Lion’s Arch.
I don’t think all of LWS1 needs to be remade. Just enough to learn about and become attached to those characters. It always frustrates me just a little to try and explain to people why I like Rox and Braham so much without having a chapter 1 of their story to refer to in-game.
How would the Marionette fight become a fractal? We required about 25 players per lane, 5 lanes and fractals are 5 players.
The Marionette is a boss fight, it doesn’t belong to a raid either.
It could work like swamp, dredge or underwater, where there are different paths. You get a defend event in one lane for a period of time, and then depending on the fractal level, you get one of the five boss fights. Something similar could be done to add it as a personal story instance.
How would the Marionette fight become a fractal? We required about 25 players per lane, 5 lanes and fractals are 5 players.
The Marionette is a boss fight, it doesn’t belong to a raid either.
It could work like swamp, dredge or underwater, where there are different paths. You get a defend event in one lane for a period of time, and then depending on the fractal level, you get one of the five boss fights. Something similar could be done to add it as a personal story instance.
Heroes, thats how it would work.
Running it in a 5man FOTM is not the way. It would not be nearly as good as when it was in the open world.
But if we had heroes that we could organized…it could work.
They could bring back S1 quite easily. Sure it would be a bit messy but its perfectly doable.
And they could use the mega server to do it. Anyone who has unlocked/gained access to S1 should be able to activate said events on a new underpopulated map. Open a LFG and start inviting players into the S1 map, just like we currently do for SW/meta maps to gain a higher success rate. Rewards should be the same as they were in S1 for completing an invasion map, with an added currency to buy S1 Vendor items that are now locked behind the Laurel Vendor.
S1 could have its own control board, you click a button to spawn yourself into a new map and the events start up. It could be 1 or 2, or even 3 phases to get the story/dynamic content going (such as the portals, maybe they spawn for 3 rounds, then the map completes and closes…ect)
same with Marionette and the before ruined LA.
There is no logical reason they cannot do this. The code for S1 is still around. They just need to build an interface to allow players to access the content on special spawned maps.
And this takes it away from the Personal Story idea and puts it back into a giant, 300man, global map. the way it was first experienced, the same way it should still be experienced.
that is how this could work.
It’s not that easy. If it where I’m sure they would have done it already.
Id rather see a portal spawn at X time for the marionette. So it’s on a timer like other world bosses. Make getting a group easier and such, even though I hate timers.
The truth is no one knows how ‘easy’ or not something like this would be. I am just simply giving an idea that is suitable to the means. Running it against the mega server and letting it be in the world is doable.
How would the Marionette fight become a fractal? We required about 25 players per lane, 5 lanes and fractals are 5 players.
The Marionette is a boss fight, it doesn’t belong to a raid either.
It could work like swamp, dredge or underwater, where there are different paths. You get a defend event in one lane for a period of time, and then depending on the fractal level, you get one of the five boss fights. Something similar could be done to add it as a personal story instance.
Heroes, thats how it would work.
Running it in a 5man FOTM is not the way. It would not be nearly as good as when it was in the open world.
But if we had heroes that we could organized…it could work.
OR they could just put it back where it was before. There is no need whatsoever to stuff the Marionette behind fractals or turn it in to a raid. Put the darned thing back in to the open world where it was to begin with and add it to the boss rotation.
If the lore of it not fitting the current time frame bugs people that much, all they have to do is swap out the framing dialogues made by Scarlet with some Inquest members and say they hijacked her project.
I am genuinely curious, did they ever give a reason for why it was removed, other than to keep up the temporary nature of the Living Story at the time?
Why not use some S1 scenario for new fractals? Like tower of nightmares?
How would the Marionette fight become a fractal? We required about 25 players per lane, 5 lanes and fractals are 5 players.
Easy peasy : 1 guy per lane and fight readapted for 5 people. You can even add some npc to the fight per line.
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How would the Marionette fight become a fractal? We required about 25 players per lane, 5 lanes and fractals are 5 players.
Easy peasy : 1 guy per lane and fight readapted for 5 people. You can even add some npc to the fight per line.
Lol! Sure i can see that going SOO well. Most Puggers I see in Fractals are just ‘1,1,1,1,….dodge(maybe), down, 1,1,1’ Putting that much stress on any single player is not what Anet is about.
I just dont see this ever hitting FoTM with the 5 lanes and how the event was setup way back.
They could just add it to the world and throw it into the rotation.
They could add a portal so that its not ‘in’ the world but accessible none-the-less
They could make it instanced and require 25people to raid it
There are soo many ways they can handle that one boss.
But I would rather see the majority of S1’s content come back to the masses, not just one encounter that is going to drop yet another set of 3 blues, 2 greens, and maybe 1 yellow if you are lucky. Just not my thing.
I just wanted Marionette back. Maybe a new map with a world boss that isn’t Marionette but has the same mechanics with some updated tech?
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