Guild Wars 2

I have logged close to 2k hours in this game 1k of which are on one character. I have maybe 100g and a decent amount of mats saved up. I have a good amount of junk laying around and am no where near getting a legendary still. The game is no longer fun to play. In GW1 by now id be in top tier gear and Id be playing all end game junk while acquiring skins or actually outfitting alts. In Guild Wars 2 I sit around and look at gated content and the grind necessary to attain best in slot gear. I think I am beginning to hate the game. I know the responses probably wont be positive but I was just checking if anyone else was annoyed with the direction the sequel is heading. Honestly thinking of quitting and cutting my loses with this game.

I’m just glad I’m nowhere near 2000 hours. Maybe I’ll say the same thing then, but at this rate that will be more than another year.

I’m not sure what a legendary weapon has to do with gated content. At this point, anyway, it’s exactly the same as an exotic.

The only gated content in this game is the top levels of the Fractals, which if you played them to get to top level, you’d have the gear anyway. They drop in the fractals themselves, and every ten level 10 dailies gives you a guaranteed ring, besides the ones that come with your dailies.

Legendary weapons, at this point, are completely cosmetic.

What content are you suggesting is gated, and by what?

as of right now each best in slot item has a different way to get to fotm for rings and backpieces, dailys for amulets(or rings and earrings but with added cost), and earrings through must be in gigantor super guild to get to. All of the guild mission stuff is gated and tiered towards a big guild( I dotn think a guild of less then 10-15 could even accomplish a bounty with out outside help). As for Legendary weapons I would think that just playing 2k hours worth of guild wars 2 would give a person even who randomly runs around like me to get the supplies or drops to make a single one. At this point in time I have a little less then half of whats needed for one. As you state a legendary is just a exotic at this point but I see people who have attained them ridiculously easy so in a way my complaint is time invested versus bad drop rates. The game seems to be aimed at grinding at least for things in which you strive to attain. Again in GW1 by now I’d have characters well equipt across the board and I would just be playing for fun but Arenanet is now forcing a grind for certain best in slot items which now require anyone who wants best in slot( and who doesn’t) to play the game their way.

Okay, Guild Missions are gated, except for the fact that there are public guild missions that are run on almost every server. So you rep another guild for half an hour, do the mission, go back to running with your guild. Better yet, if you’re in a small guild have the entire guild rep during a mission and everyone can get their personal rewards. Problem solved except for really stubborn people.

The fractals was designed to get through the fractals without any of that stuff anyway, since those items were introduced way after the fractals, That means you can get up to seriously high level fractals (including the sweet level of 38, without having the earrings or amulet at all.

In other words your entire argument is based on not having enough information.

Yes, legendaries take a horribly long time to get and that could be fixed, but that doesn’t gate you from content, only gear which is equivalent stat-wise to the gear you already have (assuming you have exotic weapons).

And nothing else is really gated, unless you’re too stubborn to do public guild missions.

It is starting to annoy me when people say getting ascended gear is a grind. It’s actually Anet efforts to stop people from grinding it that has frustrated you. Time restricting its acquisition stops people from just sitting down and grinding whatever content is required to obtain it.

My main advice on ascended gear for you though would be to stop worrying about it! At this point the difference between all ascended jewellery and all exotic isn’t sufficient to ruin the game for you. You can easily get alts levelled and geared to full exotics with out putting in too much time. I currently have 5 level 80’s, four with full exotics and an ascended amulet each. My fifth character is missing two bits of armour and a weapon set and he would have those if I could find a server with the temple I need open and if I wasn’t waiting to buy him a guild weapon when I have enough commendations, he won’t have his amulet till the end of the month but I can live with that, it won’t stop me playing him. I have less than 700 hours played and have probably spent at least a third of that in wvw.

As for the legendary here I kind of agree with you. Anet made a mess of the system for acquiring them, it shouldn’t be easier for someone who flips on the trading post to get a legendary than it is for someone who goes out and spends their time doing events and killings mobs etc. This is why I’ve chosen not to bother with a legendary. The time/reward balance isn’t right for me in comparison to other aspects of the game. Rather than get upset or annoyed by it though I have chosen to simply not bother and enjoy what I do find rewarding about this game. I’d recommend doing the same.

2k hours ? In less than 9 months ? Thats approximately 8 hours per day, seven days per week, 30 days per month ! Holy cow ! (no insult intended, just amazed).

That said, it may very well be how you are playing. I play perhaps as much as ten hours per week and have accumulated max level exotics, laurel jewelry, hundreds of gold, etc…without grinding (the dailies might be considered grindy if they werent so quickly completed while doing other things.

Ultimately one must set one’s priorities. If you need a legendary to enjoy the game then you should pursue it vigorously. Keep in mind though that Legendary’s are nothing special as far as stats. They are the equivalent of getting aparticular weapon skin in GW1. I know plenty of people who spent many more than 2k hours playing GW1 without getting a Q9 Silverwing Recurve Bow. That didn’t change the fact that their gear was top notch.

Similarly, having a legendary in GW2 is about having a particular rare weapon skin, not about having top level gear. No one who spends the time to get a legendary is doing so for the stats because, just like in GW1, the rare skin is the goal. Max stats are easy to get.

Vayne.8563:

I’m not sure what a legendary weapon has to do with gated content. At this point, anyway, it’s exactly the same as an exotic.

The only gated content in this game is the top levels of the Fractals, which if you played them to get to top level, you’d have the gear anyway. They drop in the fractals themselves, and every ten level 10 dailies gives you a guaranteed ring, besides the ones that come with your dailies.

Legendary weapons, at this point, are completely cosmetic.

What content are you suggesting is gated, and by what?

The infused backpiece does not come with doing the fractal. It comes from spending money for 250 worth of ecto, or about 65-70g.

John Kemp.2736:

. In GW1 by now id be in top tier gear and Id be playing all end game junk while acquiring skins or actually outfitting alts.

With Pugs? Naw. Why do people make things up just to make a point? This is a complete lie. If you wanted to play with Pugs in GW1 you had to have stuff like max lightbringer or max sunspear or max slayer title. To get this you had to go through an extremely boring grind and those titles didn’t just upgrade your skills you also had to have those titles at a specific rank to be able to buy new armor skins. In GW2 you can do anything with exotic armor even with Pugs

Zenith.7301:

Vayne.8563:

I’m not sure what a legendary weapon has to do with gated content. At this point, anyway, it’s exactly the same as an exotic.

The only gated content in this game is the top levels of the Fractals, which if you played them to get to top level, you’d have the gear anyway. They drop in the fractals themselves, and every ten level 10 dailies gives you a guaranteed ring, besides the ones that come with your dailies.

Legendary weapons, at this point, are completely cosmetic.

What content are you suggesting is gated, and by what?

The infused backpiece does not come with doing the fractal. It comes from spending money for 250 worth of ecto, or about 65-70g.

That’s true. And getting 250 ectos today is far far cheaper and easier than it was months ago. First of all you get some gold drops in the fractals. Secondly you get money from fractals and ecto are now under 25 silver each. Thirdly the daily chests that guarantee golds from world events are so easy to do that it’s scary.

Running CoF path 1 once per day will give you two raresyou can salvage for ectos, just from the tokens alone, plus whatever else might drop.

And by the time you’ve done enough fractals to need that ascended back piece, you should have enough money to get the upgraded one.

Basically, fractals were designed for people who WANT to grind in the first place. It was Anet’s offering to that player base. You can see and play all the fractals you want, pre level 20 without ANY AR.

I’m not sure why people think getting the ascended back piece is so difficult. If you’re not into the fractals you don’t need it. If you are into the fractals, you’ll get it.

You won’t get it TODAY maybe, but so what?

I’ve been doing MF runs and the occasional fractal with some world bosses for an entire month, and at best I ended up with 98 ectos. At that rate, it takes 2.5 months to get the backpiece.

That’s 2.5 times what it takes you to get an ascended amulet or an ascended accessory.

First GW1 was out for many years and more then likely you would of been playing GW1 after it was out and added in a few expansion and the truth is GW2 has not had the time to put out a lot of content. If you truly think this is it for GW2 content then your fooling your self there going to be a lot more and soon the living story will become bigger and bigger in effect there should be a new story or a new set of goals every month. In GW1 it was ever 6 months.

The other major point i need to make is GW1 was not an mmorpg it was more like a D2 game where yes there was “end game” but it was more on the lines of fighting a big boss over and over that you where able to play offline. Now GW1 was more complex then D2 but you could play GW1 solo making it more of an solo game that you could play with other ppl. We have GW2 that is very far from this. GW2 is a comply different game its an mmorpg. You must play with different ppl and this comply changes how the game puts out new content and how you must get arone to doing new content or getting new items.
So give GW2 time and stop trying to compare GW2 to mostly single player games with some online co-op. You will have a better time if you do.

Zenith.7301:

I’ve been doing MF runs and the occasional fractal with some world bosses for an entire month, and at best I ended up with 98 ectos. At that rate, it takes 2.5 months to get the backpiece.

That’s 2.5 times what it takes you to get an ascended amulet or an ascended accessory.

It takes ten minutes to run CoF path 1. Ten minutes. If you’re really not good at it, 15 minutes. During that time you get a minium of 2 yellows, which on the average yield two ectos.

I don’t know how often you’re playing but there are well over a dozen places you can get guaranteed golds every single day.

Since the average of about (more or less) 1 ecto per yellow, well that’s quite a bit of ectos.

More to the point, if you sell the mats and other stuff you get from in world and fractal runs, you can make money and buy ectos. Right now you can get 3 ectos for 1 gold or basically 50ish gold will get your all the ectos you need.

You might think 50 gold is a lot of money…but it’s really not in this game.

John Kemp.2736:

I have logged close to 2k hours in this game 1k of which are on one character. I have maybe 100g and a decent amount of mats saved up. I have a good amount of junk laying around and am no where near getting a legendary still. The game is no longer fun to play.

If someone mailed you the legendary of your choice for free, would the game suddenly be fun for you to play again? how would owning that legendary affect your game play?

you’ve played 2000 hours, it’s fine to be bored and move on to something else for a while.

Solution to the “problem”: don’t care for Ascended stuff and Legendary weapons. Poof, all the grind suddenly disappeared. That stuff falls into the category “nice to have”, not “must haves”, unless they are “must haves” to you, in which case, the burden is on you, not the game, for adopting that kind of thinking (your right, of course) and wanting them ASAP.

Playing GW2 should be fun beyond having “best in slot” stuff, to be honest with you. Otherwise, you’ll quit as soon as you hit the theoretical “Zenith” (the rarest skins/Ascended Items/Legendary Weapons.) It’s OK to not have fun playing GW2 too-it happens, but my point is that if you make it all about having best-in-slot stuff, the game probably would have zero appeal were you to have every BiS gear you wanted.

By the way, I am sure that by now you have a full set of Exotic armor (f not more sets) and exotic trinkets, so you already have “top tier gear”, JUST as you had on GW1. Ascended Trinkets “best in slot” are not required for almost anything, unless you require it of yourself (much less current Legendaries with Exotic Soldier’s stats.)

(In fact, one could argue that “best in slot” is currently flawed for many builds in what concerns Legendaries, since not every build is best served by Exotic Soldier’s stats.)

At the moment I’m 1,352 hours played across all characters. 1,203 of those hours are on one character which is my Guardian.

I’m slowly, slowly getting materials for The Flameseeker Prophecies, but I’m still far away. I have no rush, and I login and play for fun.

ArenaNet forces nothing on me, I do everything myself by choice, and I’m having a great time doing different stuff from time to time, slowly building up for the Legendary.

It’s not the game’s, or ArenaNet’s fault if people can’t limit themselves and start dislike the game.

Also, what gated content?

John Kemp.2736:

I have logged close to 2k hours in this game 1k of which are on one character. I have maybe 100g and a decent amount of mats saved up. I have a good amount of junk laying around and am no where near getting a legendary still. The game is no longer fun to play. In GW1 by now id be in top tier gear and Id be playing all end game junk while acquiring skins or actually outfitting alts. In Guild Wars 2 I sit around and look at gated content and the grind necessary to attain best in slot gear. I think I am beginning to hate the game. I know the responses probably wont be positive but I was just checking if anyone else was annoyed with the direction the sequel is heading. Honestly thinking of quitting and cutting my loses with this game.

Mine is most definitely positive because I feel your pain. Certain people will (and have) come on your thread to spread their usual nonsense that everything is perfectly fine and that it’s somehow only you and your choices, but sadly that’s not true considering you aren’t directly responsible for content or patches in this game (no player is).

There are a large number of problems. I’m glad tho that you aren’t affected by the loot issues that many of us still suffer from and you managed to make some gold. Some of us can’t seem to get anything to drop so we’re stuck with coppers every day.

Just wanted to express my support because yes it’s got some seriously large issues, and no the devs don’t seem to be doing anything about these issues or communicating with their playerbase and the fanboys will continue attacking those of us who point out the truth of the matter.

I made my mind long time ago to NOT chase the legendary weapon trail, I have too many alts and I love them all. Get on legendary in one is not fair for the rest. I do get nice dungeons skin and fractal tho.

Vayne.8563:

Zenith.7301:

I’ve been doing MF runs and the occasional fractal with some world bosses for an entire month, and at best I ended up with 98 ectos. At that rate, it takes 2.5 months to get the backpiece.

That’s 2.5 times what it takes you to get an ascended amulet or an ascended accessory.

It takes ten minutes to run CoF path 1. Ten minutes. If you’re really not good at it, 15 minutes. During that time you get a minium of 2 yellows, which on the average yield two ectos.

I don’t know how often you’re playing but there are well over a dozen places you can get guaranteed golds every single day.

Since the average of about (more or less) 1 ecto per yellow, well that’s quite a bit of ectos.

More to the point, if you sell the mats and other stuff you get from in world and fractal runs, you can make money and buy ectos. Right now you can get 3 ectos for 1 gold or basically 50ish gold will get your all the ectos you need.

You might think 50 gold is a lot of money…but it’s really not in this game.

I don’t farm CoF. And it’s certainly not an average of 2 ectos per yellow. I wish that was my average, just like I wish I had gotten the jetpack after the 70 MF runs I did.

But this is a garbage casino-style gaming experience, where to mitigate that you must tediously repeat the one remotely profitable activity (cof farming or TP) because the alternatives or playing other more entertaining formats do not yield reasonable rewards (30 minutes of boredom killing Claw od Jormag for a single yellow and a couple of blues and greens is not my idea of time investment).

I play for fun every time I’m on, and I don’t have a Legendary nor do I plan to get one

Zenith.7301:

Vayne.8563:

Zenith.7301:

I’ve been doing MF runs and the occasional fractal with some world bosses for an entire month, and at best I ended up with 98 ectos. At that rate, it takes 2.5 months to get the backpiece.

That’s 2.5 times what it takes you to get an ascended amulet or an ascended accessory.

It takes ten minutes to run CoF path 1. Ten minutes. If you’re really not good at it, 15 minutes. During that time you get a minium of 2 yellows, which on the average yield two ectos.

I don’t know how often you’re playing but there are well over a dozen places you can get guaranteed golds every single day.

Since the average of about (more or less) 1 ecto per yellow, well that’s quite a bit of ectos.

More to the point, if you sell the mats and other stuff you get from in world and fractal runs, you can make money and buy ectos. Right now you can get 3 ectos for 1 gold or basically 50ish gold will get your all the ectos you need.

You might think 50 gold is a lot of money…but it’s really not in this game.

I don’t farm CoF. And it’s certainly not an average of 2 ectos per yellow. I wish that was my average, just like I wish I had gotten the jetpack after the 70 MF runs I did.

But this is a garbage casino-style gaming experience, where to mitigate that you must tediously repeat the one remotely profitable activity (cof farming or TP) because the alternatives or playing other more entertaining formats do not yield reasonable rewards (30 minutes of boredom killing Claw od Jormag for a single yellow and a couple of blues and greens is not my idea of time investment).

I didn’t say it was two ectos per yellow. The average is about 1 ecto per yellow, using the mystic salvage kit. And since you get two rares for the 60 tokens you get for a single run, that’s the possiblity of anywhere from zero to six ectos for a single run. I wasn’t suggesting you farm it. I was suggesting that you do it occasionally.

Edit: In addition to the fact that you’d probably make enough from the run in cash if you sold stuff to buy two ectos in addition to the zero to six that you’d get.

Zenith.7301:

Vayne.8563:

Zenith.7301:

I’ve been doing MF runs and the occasional fractal with some world bosses for an entire month, and at best I ended up with 98 ectos. At that rate, it takes 2.5 months to get the backpiece.

That’s 2.5 times what it takes you to get an ascended amulet or an ascended accessory.

It takes ten minutes to run CoF path 1. Ten minutes. If you’re really not good at it, 15 minutes. During that time you get a minium of 2 yellows, which on the average yield two ectos.

I don’t know how often you’re playing but there are well over a dozen places you can get guaranteed golds every single day.

Since the average of about (more or less) 1 ecto per yellow, well that’s quite a bit of ectos.

More to the point, if you sell the mats and other stuff you get from in world and fractal runs, you can make money and buy ectos. Right now you can get 3 ectos for 1 gold or basically 50ish gold will get your all the ectos you need.

You might think 50 gold is a lot of money…but it’s really not in this game.

I don’t farm CoF. And it’s certainly not an average of 2 ectos per yellow. I wish that was my average, just like I wish I had gotten the jetpack after the 70 MF runs I did.

But this is a garbage casino-style gaming experience, where to mitigate that you must tediously repeat the one remotely profitable activity (cof farming or TP) because the alternatives or playing other more entertaining formats do not yield reasonable rewards (30 minutes of boredom killing Claw od Jormag for a single yellow and a couple of blues and greens is not my idea of time investment).

It is and people suggesting that you run dungeons to get what you need in a game that was supposed to be all about choice just don’t seem to get it. If it’s a choice then why are there only two means of getting any drops, and that’s precluding any problems with DR/magic find you might have? If it’s how Colin says it is, then why are there only two choices to follow to the end game? Hmm?

tigirius.9014:

Zenith.7301:

Vayne.8563:

Zenith.7301:

I’ve been doing MF runs and the occasional fractal with some world bosses for an entire month, and at best I ended up with 98 ectos. At that rate, it takes 2.5 months to get the backpiece.

That’s 2.5 times what it takes you to get an ascended amulet or an ascended accessory.

It takes ten minutes to run CoF path 1. Ten minutes. If you’re really not good at it, 15 minutes. During that time you get a minium of 2 yellows, which on the average yield two ectos.

I don’t know how often you’re playing but there are well over a dozen places you can get guaranteed golds every single day.

Since the average of about (more or less) 1 ecto per yellow, well that’s quite a bit of ectos.

More to the point, if you sell the mats and other stuff you get from in world and fractal runs, you can make money and buy ectos. Right now you can get 3 ectos for 1 gold or basically 50ish gold will get your all the ectos you need.

You might think 50 gold is a lot of money…but it’s really not in this game.

I don’t farm CoF. And it’s certainly not an average of 2 ectos per yellow. I wish that was my average, just like I wish I had gotten the jetpack after the 70 MF runs I did.

But this is a garbage casino-style gaming experience, where to mitigate that you must tediously repeat the one remotely profitable activity (cof farming or TP) because the alternatives or playing other more entertaining formats do not yield reasonable rewards (30 minutes of boredom killing Claw od Jormag for a single yellow and a couple of blues and greens is not my idea of time investment).

It is and people suggesting that you run dungeons to get what you need in a game that was supposed to be all about choice just don’t seem to get it. If it’s a choice then why are there only two means of getting any drops, and that’s precluding any problems with DR/magic find you might have? If it’s how Colin says it is, then why are there only two choices to follow to the end game? Hmm?

Actually, I only suggested it, because this player was complaining he had no money and he was running stuff for money anyway.

But that’s not the way I play, not the way my guild plays, and not the way many of the people on these forum play. If someone brings up a problem, I suggest a solution. That’s not to say that everyone should or has to play this way. This is just you twisting my words, or taking them out of context.

IF you feel you’re not getting enough money, there are ways to make more money. But that’s only for people with that mindset, who in my experience, don’t represent the majority of the playerbase.

I get why you’re disappointed with the game. That doesn’t mean everyone is or should be. This game isn’t about getting stuff as fast as possible because you’re not particularly locked out of content to get most of that stuff (the exception being the highest levels of fractals…but it still doesn’t lock you out of fractals).

If you approach the game with a more casual mindset instead of a farming mindset, you’ll probably enjoy the game more. If you can’t, then I make suggestions to try to help.

Because contrary to popular belief, I really do like to help people.

I wouldn’t really consider this game to be a sequel… Just more of an alternate story, but yeah I agree, for the amount of time you invest in doing whatever it is you’re good at, you have nothing to show for it because of the RNG & poor marketing in the gem store(Town clothes? A legendaries without a back story? Really?).

From what I’ve learned by my own playstyle, more time in the game does not = legendary. Although it SHOULD. I’d really like to see people with legendaries and say “wow that guy put a lot of work into this game”. But really if you are going for a legendary, you are playing a different game. You are not playing Guild Wars 2, you are playing Legendary Hunt. No matter how many hours we put in, you and I will never get legendaries the way we play. You need to farm a certain way, do certain things, ignore a lot of fun content, and see the game differently to get a legendary. But you know what, I love GW2 and would never give it up for a legendary hunt. So if it happens after a couple years for me, it happens. But I would NOT gauge your completion of the game based on whether or not you have a legendary. That’s a different game all together.

u probably feel burned out.

i spend like 1 – 2 hours per day on gw2.