Anyway to get Chaos of Lyssa recipe?
I believe it only drops from a Gauntlet Chance acquired from the Queen’s Gauntlet which is only active when The Crown Pavilion is open.
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Not anymore Im afraid. I believe it only dropped during the Queens festival/gauntlet
Nope, can only get it from gauntlet (not available atm), and even then its a very rare drop
Haven’t they included it in the list of Pact Network Agents’ recipes? If not, they really should.
Haven’t they included it in the list of Pact Network Agents’ recipes? If not, they really should.
Wiki only lists bough of Melandru
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Pact_Supply_Network_Agent
And I disagree, some items should stay rare imo
And I disagree, some items should stay rare imo
No. People who get enjoyment out of other people not having things are the worst kind of people.
They really, really need to add this back into the game. It costs exponentially more to buy the recipe than it costs to make the actual item itself, there’s no way that’s reasonable.
And I disagree, some items should stay rare imo
No. People who get enjoyment out of other people not having things are the worst kind of people.
They really, really need to add this back into the game. It costs exponentially more to buy the recipe than it costs to make the actual item itself, there’s no way that’s reasonable.
Completed agree with this. Just another item skin in the wardrobe that has no care given to acquiring it :/ I’ll add this to the list.
And I disagree, some items should stay rare imo
No. People who get enjoyment out of other people not having things are the worst kind of people.
They really, really need to add this back into the game. It costs exponentially more to buy the recipe than it costs to make the actual item itself, there’s no way that’s reasonable.
If you haven’t noticed, there are quite a few items like that on tp. Jetpack, Scythe, Fused skins, etc. Some people pay few thousands gold to acquire those items. If they add such recipes to karma vendors, then it’s unfair to those who paid lots of gold.
If some skin came out during specific time and you were not there to buy it/didn’t want to buy it back then, then be prepared to pay extra.
I agree it should be back in the game as a rare drop in some way. Or as a collection item with a quest similar to Mawdrey
This may come as a really out of the box, nonsensical suggestion so bear with me.
Why not bring back the queens gauntlet and a less farmtastic version of the crown pavilion which doesn’t cause toxicity and 24/7 farming for rediculous amounts of gold?
Get it right and they have a 1-2 week event they can slot in every year to keep the game active.
This may come as a really out of the box, nonsensical suggestion so bear with me.
Why not bring back the queens gauntlet and a less farmtastic version of the crown pavilion which doesn’t cause toxicity and 24/7 farming for rediculous amounts of gold?
Get it right and they have a 1-2 week event they can slot in every year to keep the game active.
This would be fine, but we’ve been asking this for 2 years now and have not had a response as to whether it will return or why it hasn’t returned. I think a lot of people would be happy to see this festival return.
I agree it should be back in the game as a rare drop in some way. Or as a collection item with a quest similar to Mawdrey
Yeah, that. It’s okay if a rare item is back, but it should be a very uncommon drop or require a lot of effort to acquire. Just adding it to vendors and therefore making it available to basically anyone anytime is going to kill it’s value. Chaos of Lyssa was always worth more than any other god-themed backpack recipes, and that’s what makes it unique. I don’t see people with that skin very often. Actually I’ve seen way more people with legendary backpacks than with Chaos of Lyssa.
Same with items I mentioned before. Once they all sell out it’s good to add an alternative method of getting them, but it should not be smth that’s really easy to farm.
No one would suggest it should be, it just makes no sense the Grenth and Dwayna ones are obtainable and the Lyssa ones aren’t. Even if the Lyssa is added to the same drop table as the other two, that would be just as good.
What baffles me is that the crafting already requires a lot of matts and gold.
And I disagree, some items should stay rare imo
No. People who get enjoyment out of other people not having things are the worst kind of people.
They really, really need to add this back into the game. It costs exponentially more to buy the recipe than it costs to make the actual item itself, there’s no way that’s reasonable.
If you haven’t noticed, there are quite a few items like that on tp. Jetpack, Scythe, Fused skins, etc. Some people pay few thousands gold to acquire those items. If they add such recipes to karma vendors, then it’s unfair to those who paid lots of gold.
If some skin came out during specific time and you were not there to buy it/didn’t want to buy it back then, then be prepared to pay extra.
I am confused why people still think things tied behind rng and black lion cash should be exclusive. It’s a choice people make to buy skins, when it should be obvious they will be back one way or another. I mean look what happened when we were given dyes for birthdays.
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^ Well, if you have 1730g to buy a single recipe just for a skin, you have 132g to craft it.
And I disagree, some items should stay rare imo
No. People who get enjoyment out of other people not having things are the worst kind of people.
They really, really need to add this back into the game. It costs exponentially more to buy the recipe than it costs to make the actual item itself, there’s no way that’s reasonable.
If you haven’t noticed, there are quite a few items like that on tp. Jetpack, Scythe, Fused skins, etc. Some people pay few thousands gold to acquire those items. If they add such recipes to karma vendors, then it’s unfair to those who paid lots of gold.
If some skin came out during specific time and you were not there to buy it/didn’t want to buy it back then, then be prepared to pay extra.I am confused why people still think things tied behind rng and black lion cash should be exclusive. It’s a choice people make to buy skins, when it should be obvious they will be back one way or another. I mean look what happened when we were given dyes for birthdays.
Well Chaos of Lyssa was a rare drop back then too, so yeah it is exclusive in a way, because it’s not as common as Shadow of Grenth or Wings of Dwayna.
People spend gold because they can only get it from tp. What else should they do? Wait 3-4 years in hopes that MAYBE it will re-appear?
Besides, some content should stay exclusive, otherwise there would be no motivation for people to earn gold if they can easily get anything at any given moment.
This item is already exclusive enough; the high crafting level requirement and materials needed to make it almost guarantee that.
It’s the recipe that needs a source. The pact network agents is too easy, and rng already did it’s thing and gave us the current tp price. I’d really like to see the gauntlet come back and have the recipe be one of the reward choices. But then the gauntlet needs fixed too…Has anyone seen extra renovations yet? No?
Edit: maybe the gift dolyak is smuggling building materials down and we’ll get to visit the gauntlet for the lunar new year.
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Is there any way to get the Chaos Of Lyssa back piece recipe without paying the TP price of 1700g? That’s almost as much as a legendary. Is there any activity that gives the recipe as a reward?
Thank Lyssa I got mine back when that number was missing a 0 ;(
The only activity that gives it is Queen’s Gauntlet, and that’s on hiatus
Exclusive, event, season, etc items should stay like that, period.
If they ever add ONE single item back for karma or another stuff, then people is going to ask for another one (the one they want) then in the end is going to become a train of asking for it, and practically will need to bring back each item, every item which was ’’exclusive’’ to turn to normal status, plus that plus wardrobe unlock will become useless and less moneyz
Then the people who actually paid that gold in the TP will be like ‘’are you dogie kidding me, why didnt you do this from the start insteand of just not for the end listen to people which dont want to farm or spend that ammount of gold’’
Just like when the dungeons used to give you miserable 60 tokens and no gold in each run plus drops were trash, then they modified and people who farmed it like crazy was like ‘’doggie anet..why dont they do this from the start you wouldve save me a lot of time’’
People who come and say ‘’mengz that item is too expensive in the TP please can you put it for 100 karma in a shop, i dont want to spend time or moneyz in that ammount of gold’’ are delusional same with the ‘’mengz i didnt want to farm that event at all, but i started to like that thing, can you put it for 100 karma in the shop?’’ more delusion and the last but not least ‘’i wasnt here two years ago, and i want that item which was in that season, i dont care if someone has been playing daily for like 2 years and getting stuff which was being added i want that to be put in for 100 karma shop because iam here and started to play today’’
snorlax in a park!!
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And I disagree, some items should stay rare imo
No. People who get enjoyment out of other people not having things are the worst kind of people.
They really, really need to add this back into the game. It costs exponentially more to buy the recipe than it costs to make the actual item itself, there’s no way that’s reasonable.
It was that way even during the event, when it was dropping. The drop rate was that rare. And since Anet seems to have decided to discontinue Queen’s Gauntlet, there’s no chance that the situation will reverse without some really heavyhanded dev intervention.
Exclusive, event, season, etc items should stay like that, period.
If they ever add ONE single item back for karma or another stuff, then people is going to ask for another one (the one they want) then in the end is going to become a train of asking for it, and practically will need to bring back each item, every item which was ’’exclusive’’ to turn to normal status, plus that plus wardrobe unlock will become useless and less moneyz
You do realize, that it has already happened? Many of such items from the LS1 time were brought back and can now be bought from a laurel vendor. Molten backpack was obtainable as a drop during the LA destruction events. First year halloween skins are supposedly obtainable as a rare (well, really rare) forge drop now.
And while the returning items do not need to be buyable at the vendor, there should be a way to obtain them now. No skin should ever be permanently retired.
By the way, about the people that paid thousands of gold for those skins – they’d have absolutely no leg to stand on. Anet never said those items will not be returning at some point. The buyers should have been perfectly aware, that the price of these items is not set and can change in the future, and that they are in fact taking a risk.
But if they will want a refund, i bet they will be equally as ready to pay the difference for every item they bought when those were much cheaper than they’re now. Though somehow i have never heard anyone complaining about that one.
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And I disagree, some items should stay rare imo
No. People who get enjoyment out of other people not having things are the worst kind of people.
They really, really need to add this back into the game. It costs exponentially more to buy the recipe than it costs to make the actual item itself, there’s no way that’s reasonable.
It was that way even during the event, when it was dropping. The drop rate was that rare. And since Anet seems to have decided to discontinue Queen’s Gauntlet, there’s no chance that the situation will reverse without some really heavyhanded dev intervention.
Exclusive, event, season, etc items should stay like that, period.
If they ever add ONE single item back for karma or another stuff, then people is going to ask for another one (the one they want) then in the end is going to become a train of asking for it, and practically will need to bring back each item, every item which was ’’exclusive’’ to turn to normal status, plus that plus wardrobe unlock will become useless and less moneyz
You do realize, that it has already happened? Many of such items from the LS1 time were brought back and can now be bought from a laurel vendor. Molten backpack was obtainable as a drop during the LA destruction events. First year halloween skins are supposedly obtainable as a rare (well, really rare) forge drop now.
And while the returning items do not need to be buyable at the vendor, there should be a way to obtain them now. No skin should ever be permanently retired.
By the way, about the people that paid thousands of gold for those skins – they’d have absolutely no leg to stand on. Anet never said those items will not be returning at some point. The buyers should have been perfectly aware, that the price of these items is not set and can change in the future, and that they are in fact taking a risk.
But if they will want a refund, i bet they will be equally as ready to pay the difference for every item they bought when those were much cheaper than they’re now. Though somehow i have never heard anyone complaining about that one.
For what reason should these skins return actually? They have no special stats (aka it’s not essential to gameplay in any way), it’s just pure cosmetics. Would it kill people if they have a regular wings of dwayna backpack instead of a molten jetpack / chaos of lyssa? Absolutely not.
However if someone pays let’s say 5k for such skin and then later everyone can get it for 30 laurels/ 10k karma, then yeah, I can see why they would be disappointed.
And as I said, there should be some prestigious items on tp, cause that’s how economy works. You need to have rare/unobtainable skins so people have some motivation to get them.
I mean, look at chak egg sac, the rarest item in game. Why do you think it’s worth so much? Because it is quite hard to obtain it because of it’s low drop rate. The amount of people wanting to buy it is always higher than the amount of people selling it. Demand > supply.
What do you think will happen if they nerf the low droprate and it starts dropping each time someone kills the boss? The price will plummet to <10 gold.
And about skins being ‘retired’. There are always some tp-flippers that buy skins cheap and then hoard it hoping to sell it for more. These skins are then re-purchased by other flippers and they re-list it for higher price later. So in reality, someone always has some skin available, it might just not be on tp at the moment.
And once again, it won’t kill anyone if they don’t have a particular skin. There are plenty of other skins in the game.
They could add it as a ultra-rare drop from some world boss/fractal/whatever just to make sure the skin won’t die out. But I surely hope it won’t become some vendor trash or smth that drops every 10 minutes in some map.
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However if someone pays let’s say 5k for such skin and then later everyone can get it for 30 laurels/ 10k karma, then yeah, I can see why they would be disappointed.
What if someone had paid 100 gold for this? Should we demand they pay 1600 gold to even the current market price, just to be fair?
Ridiculous, you say? Why? There’s no difference in fairness between price rising from 150 to 1500 and dropping from 1500 to 150.
And as I said, there should be some prestigious items on tp, cause that’s how economy works. You need to have rare/unobtainable skins so people have some motivation to get them.
If they are unobtainable, there can be no motivation. And the motivation should always prioritize obtaining the items directly. It should not prioritize getting them from TP. We should want people playing the game rather than just farming multiloot to buy stuff.
So, the items do not have to be cheap, easily buyable from vendor, or a common drop, but must be obtainable in some way in game (other than tp).
I mean, look at chak egg sac, the rarest item in game. Why do you think it’s worth so much?
Because some people have too much money for their own good?
(I mean, honestly, i have no idea why anyone would pay that much for anything, unless they had a ton of gold lying around and no idea what to do with it).
What do you think will happen if they nerf the low droprate and it starts dropping each time someone kills the boss? The price will plummet to <10 gold.
Are you unaware, that there’s a lot of space in between impossible/almost impossible to get and common as dirt? You certainly seem so, when you react as if any way of introducing currently unobtainable items to the game must result in the latter.
And about skins being ‘retired’. There are always some tp-flippers that buy skins cheap and then hoard it hoping to sell it for more. These skins are then re-purchased by other flippers and they re-list it for higher price later. So in reality, someone always has some skin available, it might just not be on tp at the moment.
Untrue. First, some skins leave the market by being used/soulbound, or by ending in banks/inventories of people that stopped playing. Second, some of the retired skins were never sellable in the first place (Mad Memories, for example).
And once again, it won’t kill anyone if they don’t have a particular skin.
True, but by the same reasoning, it won’t kill anyone if those skins will become available again.
They could add it as a ultra-rare drop from some world boss/fractal/whatever just to make sure the skin won’t die out. But I surely hope it won’t become some vendor trash or smth that drops every 10 minutes in some map.
You were the only person here that even suggested such a possibility.
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However if someone pays let’s say 5k for such skin and then later everyone can get it for 30 laurels/ 10k karma, then yeah, I can see why they would be disappointed.
What if someone had paid 100 gold for this? Should we demand they pay 1600 gold to even the current market price, just to be fair?
Ridiculous, you say? Why? There’s no difference in fairness between price rising from 150 to 1500 and dropping from 1500 to 150.
And as I said, there should be some prestigious items on tp, cause that’s how economy works. You need to have rare/unobtainable skins so people have some motivation to get them.
If they are unobtainable, there can be no motivation. And the motivation should always prioritize obtaining the items directly. It should not prioritize getting them from TP. We should want people playing the game rather than just farming multiloot to buy stuff.
So, the items do not have to be cheap, easily buyable from vendor, or a common drop, but must be obtainable in some way in game (other than tp).
I mean, look at chak egg sac, the rarest item in game. Why do you think it’s worth so much?
Because some people have too much money for their own good?
(I mean, honestly, i have no idea why anyone would pay that much for anything, unless they had a ton of gold lying around and no idea what to do with it).What do you think will happen if they nerf the low droprate and it starts dropping each time someone kills the boss? The price will plummet to <10 gold.
Are you unaware, that there’s a lot of space in between impossible/almost impossible to get and common as dirt? You certainly seem so, when you react as if any way of introducing currently unobtainable items to the game must result in the latter.
And about skins being ‘retired’. There are always some tp-flippers that buy skins cheap and then hoard it hoping to sell it for more. These skins are then re-purchased by other flippers and they re-list it for higher price later. So in reality, someone always has some skin available, it might just not be on tp at the moment.
Untrue. First, some skins leave the market by being used/soulbound, or by ending in banks/inventories of people that stopped playing. Second, some of the retired skins were never sellable in the first place (Mad Memories, for example).
And once again, it won’t kill anyone if they don’t have a particular skin.
True, but by the same reasoning, it won’t kill anyone if those skins will become available again.
They could add it as a ultra-rare drop from some world boss/fractal/whatever just to make sure the skin won’t die out. But I surely hope it won’t become some vendor trash or smth that drops every 10 minutes in some map.
You were the only person here that even suggested such a possibility.
1) no, because if someone pays 100g for it in the beginning it’s understandable, however as more time passes and as less skins are left on tp, it’s only logical it becomes more expensive (and difficult to acquire).
2) But they are obtainable, anyone can buy them from tp if they have enough gold. The question is, do they have enough? no gold =/= unobtainable skin. Besides if it is a drop with a low drop chance, good luck with obtaining the item ‘directly’. Because of RNG, you may never get it still, but someone else will, who can sell it to you on tp.
3) People buy chak egg sac/farm tangled depths because it is hard to get. It is such a popular item because of the limited supply. And it gives a nice aura. Look at tp, there are always 2-4 people ordering it for 10k gold and waiting while no one even sells it.
4) Once again, it IS possible to get it rn. You just don’t want to pay the price it goes for.
5) Oh really? Was I the only one who suggested it? How about this?
Haven’t they included it in the list of Pact Network Agents’ recipes? If not, they really should.
1) no, because if someone pays 100g for it in the beginning it’s understandable, however as more time passes and as less skins are left on tp, it’s only logical it becomes more expensive (and difficult to acquire).
Nope. If you want to invest in something, you need to live with an associated risk. Some things will increase in price, some won’t, some will drop heavily.
Not every skin increased in price that much, after all – Dwayna’s and Grenth’s backpack recipes were obtainable in similar way, when they entered the game, and there was no reason to think Lyssa will be different. So, someone who bought Dwayna recipe and someone who bought Lyssa recipe were doing exactly the same. And yet only one of them managed to get a 1600% return on investment.
And this covers not only backpack recipes, but all the items that are purchasable/sellable. The only reason why only some of them can offer massive investment is because in every case there’s a risk that they just won’t.
So, yes, it is more logical that it becomes more expensive. Still, it’s not any more (or less) fair than the situation where the opposite happens. If tomorrow Anet would bring back Queen’s Pavillon, with Lyssa backpack recipes dropping again, and their price crashed, it would be exactly as fair (or unfair) for everyone involved as the situation up to now.
5) Oh really? Was I the only one who suggested it? How about this?
Haven’t they included it in the list of Pact Network Agents’ recipes? If not, they really should.
As i understood, it was about it being a rare drop from the Torn Page item, so not really a “vendor trash or something that drops every 10 minutes in some map”. And there was not a mention of the price of that recipe either.
Also, the very cost of crafting the backpack makes any claims to it being a “vendor thrash” item really dubious.
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