Aqua breather in real life?
a mask filter that can convert the oxygen in the water to be breathable.
awesome!
They do exist, they are called rebreathers, but I believe they only last a certain amount of time.
They do exist, they are called rebreathers, but I believe they only last a certain amount of time.
Yes but that is larger scuba gear I mean just a small mask that goes over the face like it actually is in game when you go underwater.
I know we are probably far off from something like that but soon it might be actually possible, so they should just go ahead and take a patent out on it.
You don’t really understand how patents work, do you?
You can’t patent something unless you know how it works and how to make it. That’s what you’re patenting.
That dream is hundreds? thousands? of years old. The closest is a system that still has a tank but does not outgas, just recirculates the air and scrubs the CO2.
EDIT: the system that would work here is if Assuran gates where embedded in the mask. Don’t remember seeing gates in my area of the world, when they create those the mask is a snap. Of course you have clothing in game that you can go from freezing cold water to freezing air environments and have no problems as well.
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Not possible for several reasons:
1/ On average, the amount of oxygen in water is pretty low, certainly enough to sustain a warm-blooded being such as a human.
2/ The amount of oxygen required would create a lot of “waste” water, and while layman solution would be to dump it behind you, it still has to be processed. This means a water filter would need to process about 1000 liter per second to be effective. For a device as large as a mask, that’s physically impossible.
3/ Oxygen is highly toxic. In the air, only 21% is oxygen and the rest is filler gas (nitrogen). In scuba gear, only 10% is oxygen and in deep sea station less than 4% is oxygen while the rest is an inert gas such as Helium. That means, for an aqua filter to work, you also need to process 9 times as much filler gas in order to not die.
Such a thing simply can not exist, not because technology can’t handle it but rather because water doesn’t have what it takes to breathe in sufficient quantities.
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I have a solution.
Augment humans to have gills. Problem solved.
You are welcome. Goodnight.
You’d have to process a couple liters per second at the physical limit to extract raw oxygen from the water; that certainly isn’t impossible, though I can’t imagine it would be comfortable given the pressures that would require for the space constraints.
‘Realistically’ you’d use an external power source (fusion batteries, right? right?) to electrolyze water and create breathable oxygen from the water itself. I have no idea what the technology that could do that would look like, but I cannot think of any reason to say it is impossible in principle.
I’m not concerned about the gas phase at all, in either case; you’re recycling virtually all the gas anyway, and just need to scrub / replenish a pretty modest volume of gas.
Humans use an enormous amount of energy compared to aquatic animals of a similar size. ‘Humans with gills’ is a fun idea, but the energy just isn’t there – there’s a reason aquatic animals are all cold blooded, low energy creatures.
The oxygen you are looking to extract is the dissolved oxygen.
Going off of a fresh water survey, a seasonal average of 10mg/L
http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/dissolvedoxygen.html
We breath about 7 or 8 Liters of air per minute which works out to be about 9.98 to 11.36 grams.
You would need a machine that would allow you to pull the oxygen out of 1000 Liters of water in one minute to have 100%. But we only need a concentration of 20%. On top of that the air we breath in has about 20% but the air we breath out only has about 15% for a 5% drop.
As a minimum we would need a device that can pull the dissolved oxygen out of 50 Liters of water in one minute and replace the CO2 with this extracted oxygen.
So pulling the oxygen from 1 liter per second would be sufficient enough.
However, we’re not talking something that fits over your face. You’d be looking at a unit that you wear on your back.
You’d have to process a couple liters per second at the physical limit to extract raw oxygen from the water; that certainly isn’t impossible, though I can’t imagine it would be comfortable given the pressures that would require for the space constraints.
‘Realistically’ you’d use an external power source (fusion batteries, right? right?) to electrolyze water and create breathable oxygen from the water itself. I have no idea what the technology that could do that would look like, but I cannot think of any reason to say it is impossible in principle.
I’m not concerned about the gas phase at all, in either case; you’re recycling virtually all the gas anyway, and just need to scrub / replenish a pretty modest volume of gas.
Humans use an enormous amount of energy compared to aquatic animals of a similar size. ‘Humans with gills’ is a fun idea, but the energy just isn’t there – there’s a reason aquatic animals are all cold blooded, low energy creatures.
all those cold blooded inactive whales/walruses/penguins are neat, think another name for cold-blooded inactive mammals/birds is dead.