Guild Wars 2

Was wondering why my warrior didn’t get a champ bag from the Shaman at the Maw event and a guildie said that champ bags are limited to 50 per champ in the event, so if you weren’t one of the top 50 DPS players hitting the Shaman, then you don’t get a champ bag. Is that correct?

I’ve never heard that particular rumor before. No evidence that that is true, unless maps are capped at 50 players/map.

I’ve not gotten one before, and have no idea why. Never heard this rumor before, I just assumed it was a bug.

There’s no minimum level requirement before they start to drop. The bonus chest will drop from level 40, but you can get champ bags at any level.

The AoE loot feature only works on bags you have line-of-sight on. Sometimes the champ chest gets stuck in a rock or wall and you can’t get it. I’ve had it happen a few times at Maw. Sucks but it’s very rare.

Thing is, if anyone would know it’d probably be this guy since he’s a very efficient champ farmer. I just didn’t know whether this is one of those things that the playerbase just takes for granted that I hadn’t heard of.

It would certainly explain why I occasionally don’t get champ bags, since I sometimes ahem hit auto-attack and go afk. Hence I’m probably not doing my best dps at an event where there are 100 odd people; e.g. maw.

Any chance of a dev weighing in please?

You didn’t do enough dmg to be entitled for the champ bag.

With event champs like Maw it gets rather difficult to tag if you are not there bashing it from the start and/or using gear that has lower DPS. (being in a party also helps)

Taku.6352:

You didn’t do enough dmg to be entitled for the champ bag.

With event champs like Maw it gets rather difficult to tag if you are not there bashing it from the start and/or using gear that has lower DPS. (being in a party also helps)

If I was running around with a level 15 blues-wearing ranger at Maw, then sure. But this is a level 80, full ascended zerker ranger using Brazil’s (non-eugene) ranger build.

It just doesn’t seem very likely when my silly condition necro can turn up at the end of the fight and get a champ bag just for auto-attacking.

transtemporal.2158:

Was wondering why my warrior didn’t get a champ bag from the Shaman at the Maw event and a guildie said that champ bags are limited to 50 per champ in the event, so if you weren’t one of the top 50 DPS players hitting the Shaman, then you don’t get a champ bag. Is that correct?

Not quite. There’s a certain damage threshold you need to pass to qualify for drop. Now, of course, there’s a finite number of players that can pass that damage threshold before mob is dead. For example, if the threshold was 2% of mob’s total hp, then obviously only up to 50 players could receive loot. The number is not set, however, for several reasons.
First, we don’t know the threshold. It may be 2% (so max 50 players). It may be 1%. It may be something else. Additionally the number changes if: some players deal more than their due, boss heals during fight, or condi damage is used (condi damage often doesn’t count for threshold, but does decrease mob’s hp). Scaling (both up and down) during fight can also mess with this heavily.
So, short answer: yes, there’s a finite number of players that can get the drops. No, it’s not 50 (or any set number).

Astralporing.1957:

Not quite. There’s a certain damage threshold you need to pass to qualify for drop. Now, of course, there’s a finite number of players that can pass that damage threshold before mob is dead. For example, if the threshold was 2% of mob’s total hp, then obviously only up to 50 players could receive loot. The number is not set, however, for several reasons.
First, we don’t know the threshold. It may be 2% (so max 50 players). It may be 1%. It may be something else. Additionally the number changes if: some players deal more than their due, boss heals during fight, or condi damage is used (condi damage often doesn’t count for threshold, but does decrease mob’s hp). Scaling (both up and down) during fight can also mess with this heavily.
So, short answer: yes, there’s a finite number of players that can get the drops. No, it’s not 50 (or any set number).

When you put it like that, it kinda makes sense actually, cheers.

Sometimes it just bugs out. I’ve done plenty of damage and occasionally the Shaman just doesn’t drop a bag.

I’ve got to Maw with like 45 seconds left when there’s more than 50 people there, got like 5-10 hits on him, and still got a bag.

So, I’m pretty certain it’s not limited to the top 50 players. Especially since you’d hear a lot more of this “I didn’t get a bag” stuff if it was.

Sometimes the bags glitch. Sometimes the chests glitch. It happens.

I got a bag from Dwayna after hitting her with only 1 attack from my thief (around 3k). You barely need to touch monsters to get a bag.

It was probably a bug.