Guild Wars 2

I was wondering about the experiences of other players. In WvW are your tank builds not performing as well as they use to prior to the patch? Is it the condi damage? It seems I blow up like paper now. What am I doing wrong?

Conditions ignore armor and most immunity effects, so it’s very likely due to some condition builds having better DPS against low-armor targets than even full-might berserker builds. A lot of damage overall has just increased and more people are playing more aggressively.

I’d say the biggest thing you’re probably doing wrong is trying to fight them because they’re going to win with access to dire gear.

No more stats from traits means you can’t trait for tankiness and then use gear to try and do enough damage to make it useful. Basically, adjustments will have to be made to gear choices, you’ll have to gear all out for it if you want to make a bunker build, and you’re going to do a substantial amount less damage than those builds used to. It will take some time for it all to shake out and for the player base to determine if they are really obsolete, although the current consensus seems to be that buffs to condition damage have made toughness useless, resulting in bunker builds being broken.

Maybe toughness should reduce condi damage as well then? not as much as physical damage but it would help melee in WvW not get blown up.

Should definitively be more runes and things that apply resistance as a bonus. And just like any time condi becomes meta, gear choices need to shift to counter it. Use more -duration, vit and healing or some combo of heal+cleanse. And defensive traits are traiting tanky, you just have to balance your gear to complement it rather that letting trait lines do it for you.

That all said, I think the balance is currently wonky but keep on testing the waters. It’s sorely needed.

I run a very tanky warrior build in wvw, a mix between ascended sentinel and ventari, over 35k hp, lots of condi cleanse, mobility, stances etc.

Before the patch, i could easily run through the enemy zerg solo, mitigate damage while in it with endure pain, run out at the other side, clean most of the condis and get away.

With the patch, my condi cleanse got buffed, i can run cleansing ire now and have condi cleanse on weapon swap, triple stability instead of double and defiant stance on a lower cooldown. But in the middle of the enemy zerg, i can mitigate direct damage all i want, condis will kill me.

Its definately harder for me to survive, which is not only due to the condi changes but I also lost 30% boon duration, which is quite a bit.

However, I am not so sure, if my build prior to patch wasnt OP in the first place, as usually I shouldnt be able to solo run into an enemy zerg, have a 5 second picknick in the middle of it and get out without dying.

Balance is kind of skewed right now, and ANet is aware of it. It’ll find a new equilibrium sooner or later.

no they r basicly not mraps anymore but kevlar vest
speccing for full tank shoulden’t even be a thing if they dont want the trinity
either there is tank and healers or dodge they dont want trinity so might as well
reward timing burst skills if they are striving for esports.
NO ONE wants to watch 2 players poking eachother with sticks for 5 min on 1 point.
its a snooze fest i LOVE this patch but i can see there will be nerfs and were right back to where they started with bunkers.
also in pve u see players advertising NEED GUARDDDD and it haven’t changed
thats the only thing they need others are filler slots again and again its what i see.

I haven’t tested it out yet but I think necro became the new bunker….they have ways to consume and even shorten Condi not yo me too 2life bars….and ways to he’s too….tested in pvp …i was still doing okay dmg when I was doing a 3vs1. I did die but end up downing one and getting the other 2 under 50% health…still trying to perfect a tanky but annoying build though