Ascended Armor Needs Laurels
You can get Ascended weapons as ultra rare chest drops already. Surely Anet will do the same for armors. But the alternative that’s available is much harder than just spending time to craft your discipline to lv 500. Why would people want to do an alternative harder way to get something?
In GW2, Trading Post plays you!
You can get Ascended weapons as ultra rare chest drops already. Surely Anet will do the same for armors. But the alternative that’s available is much harder than just spending time to craft your discipline to lv 500. Why would people want to do an alternative harder way to get something?
Ultra rare chest drops are in game now. This isn’t what’s wanted as it’s not a viable method of farming these, namely the RNG factor or trying to assemble a matching set.
A harder method of acquisition would also be fine with me, and maybe others though I can’t speak for them, if it did not involve grinding countless mats and crafting. Thats what you seem to not be able to grasp. Its not wanting it handed or easier. Its suggesting other ways that are just as difficult or even more so. Just not crafting with an insane amount of mats. This method is not fun, engaging or even seem like playing a game to many people. Its a chore. A game should not feel like a chore. Thus offering alternate, viable methods for acquiring this gear would open appeal of it to many more people. If more difficult ways were added and a lot of people found them fun to partake in, then it doesn’t matter that’s it harder. It’s fun, engaging content to be involved in while working on your BiS gear.
I don’t believe Anet wants, or is it in their best interest, to have people blow off what’s supposed to be BiS gear simply because the method of acquiring it is tedious as you suggest.
Complainers want an easier, alternative way to get Ascended gear. By asking for another method to acquire Ascended gear that’s easier than Crafting and RNG chest drops, would basically invalidate the need to Craft in the first place. Why would Anet put in place something that punishes the people who spent the time and money to level their Disciplines to 500?
In GW2, Trading Post plays you!
Complainers want an easier, alternative way to get Ascended gear. By asking for another method to acquire Ascended gear that’s easier than Crafting and RNG chest drops, would basically invalidate the need to Craft in the first place. Why would Anet put in place something that punishes the people who spent the time and money to level their Disciplines to 500?
This alone proves you don’t know what I am saying or what people are asking for.
NOT ASKING FOR EASIER, ALTERNATIVE WAY.
Did you purposely skip over the parts where I said, even harder alternative methods would be welcomed by me. Or just ignore them? I don’t care if its harder alternate methods. RNG chance is not a viable harder method as you’re not actually working on anything, you’re hoping on chance. I just do NOT WANT TO CRAFT AND MINDLESSLY GRIND.
Again, you are arguing something I did not say. Or even hint at. And I said the exact opposite many times over. Something else of EQUAL or even HARDER difficulty that does not involve crafting.
I don’t know how else I can say it, because you just don’t get it. You keep falling back to an argument against something I am not in any way, shape or form saying.
At this point I’m sure he’s just trolling, moving on.
Anything I post is just the opinion of a very vocal minority of 1.
Please do remind me of what GW2 was suppose to be like
It was supposed to be the game that didn’t appeal to the standard MMO crowd because it was going to be casual friendly. You know. Lack of grind. BiS easy to get, seeing as upon hitting 80 you were going to have BiS gear. Lack of vertical progression. etc. etc.
, or what proper game design is?
I said proper game design for GW2, because of what the original stated intentions were.
Again, see the quote about BiS being obtained at 80, even by casuals.
Or, you know. Feel free to ignore it. Since you just want GW2 to be like every other MMO already on the market.
Complainers want an easier, alternative way to get Ascended gear. By asking for another method to acquire Ascended gear that’s easier than Crafting and RNG chest drops, would basically invalidate the need to Craft in the first place. Why would Anet put in place something that punishes the people who spent the time and money to level their Disciplines to 500?
This alone proves you don’t know what I am saying or what people are asking for.
NOT ASKING FOR EASIER, ALTERNATIVE WAY.
Did you purposely skip over the parts where I said, even harder alternative methods would be welcomed by me. Or just ignore them? I don’t care if its harder alternate methods. RNG chance is not a viable harder method as you’re not actually working on anything, you’re hoping on chance. I just do NOT WANT TO CRAFT AND MINDLESSLY GRIND.
Again, you are arguing something I did not say. Or even hint at. And I said the exact opposite many times over. Something else of EQUAL or even HARDER difficulty that does not involve crafting.
I don’t know how else I can say it, because you just don’t get it. You keep falling back to an argument against something I am not in any way, shape or form saying.
The alternative already exists if they drop from Ascended chests. So then we players have two ways to get it: Crafting or RNG. Neither is locked behind P2W doors, and are casual/alt friendly.
In GW2, Trading Post plays you!
Dont forget though, in mmos, over time they always make it more trivial to get top tier for new players entering, so in a year I’ll bet there will be many ways to get laurels.
I’m counting on this.
I’d love to return to Tyria someday. I hope when I do, the grind will have been severely diminished.
They’ve added grind to keep people playing, but for some of us, it has done exactly the opposite.
Because some people think an mmo without grind is no fun.
And this game was never meant for those people.
This was the game that you would hate if you loved other MMOs. That was one of the original selling points. This was going to be the game for a different crowd of people.
Exactly. The argument that there are no alternative methods is moot. You can either craft Ascended gear, or have Exotics.
That’s not an alternative way to obtain BiS gear.
No, Exotic is not BiS. It can’t be if Ascended is BiS. I don’t get how such a concept could go right over your head.
1. In what MMO (this excludes Guild Wars 1, which was a co-op RPG) have you ever been able to get BiS for every character you have at level cap easily or quickly? Zero. Stop holding this game to an unreasonable standard.
It is a bitter pill for the vast majority of Guild Wars 1 players to see Guild Wars 2 gradually become less and less of a true successor to their much loved predecessor. ArenaNet made many promises, erected a set of pillars, and then crashed and burned after the game was released. I understand why they did it; but it doesn’t mean I have to like it.
And in many ways Guild Wars 1 was a better MMO than Guild Wars 2 will ever be.
Co-op RPG? Phht!
Well he did say you can get ascended amulets with guild commendations so I wouldn’t be taking what he says too seriously given the false information being posted
Yeah I misspoke. I was thinking accessories at that point. But ultimately, my point is valid and backed by facts.
1) There’s no forced grind in this game. If you want BiS gear, you make the effort to get it.
2) If like BiS gear, Anet provides different ways to obtain them. Laurels, Guild Commendations, Crafting, RNG chests, and even special event rewards.
3) If you don’t like the ways the game grants you access to BiS gear, you can choose to go the lesser route of Exotic gear, which are plentiful and low cost.
4) This game is very alt friendly, since you have so many different ways to gear and even skin your other characters. Compared to Ascended gear, Exotics are cheap. Plus, you have makeover kits, in game skin rewards, transmutations, etc.
In GW2, Trading Post plays you!
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Smooth Penguin.5294, you are trolling. You are regurgitating the same things over and over with no clear understanding of what’s even being said. I am not allowed to speculate in that manner any further, it seems. Noone has argued what you say, yet you keep regurgitating arguments noone is making.
Your points are invalid as they have little to nothing to do with the topic or what I or others have said to you, backed by facts that also are not valid as they do not pertain the issue that was being discussed. If someone else would care to feed this troll, feel free.
What would be nice now is some intelligent discussion of alternate methods of obtaining Ascended Armor, which is what I was hoping from this topic before being side-tracked. Or if anyone has any legitimate and valid reason why an alternate method of equal difficulty and time could not be placed along side the current method, I’d like to hear that as well.
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Smooth Penguin.5294, you are trolling. You are regurgitating the same things over and over with no clear understanding of what’s even being said. I am not allowed to speculate in that manner any further, it seems. Noone has argued what you say, yet you keep regurgitating arguments noone is making.
Your points are invalid as they have little to nothing to do with the topic or what I or others have said to you, backed by facts that also are not valid as they do not pertain the issue that was being discussed. If someone else would care to feed this troll, feel free.
What would be nice now is some intelligent discussion of alternate methods of obtaining Ascended Armor, which is what I was hoping from this topic before being side-tracked. Or if anyone has any legitimate and valid reason why an alternate method of equal difficulty and time could not be placed along side the current method, I’d like to hear that as well.
The point of this thread is that the OP thinks Laurels and other gates are not alt friendly. All the people who agree are misunderstanding one major thing: This game is already alt friendly.
You get Laurels once per day, plus a bonus each month. This currency is used to get a lot of gated BiS content. Anet provides multiple ways to finish your dailies and monthlies. If you choose not to do them, you don’t get Laurels. If you don’t have time to play, you don’t get Laurels. There’s nothing wrong with this situation, as it’s completely fair to all players.
Example: Is it fair for a player who plays once a year, to have the same access and wealth as someone who plays daily?
People who make the effort to do Dailies and Monthlies are rewarded. And these players are then able to start gearing all their characters with BiS gear that they can craft. At last count, I have 312 Laurels. I would have had more if I didn’t buy the Mysterious Cat Tonic (which just sits in my bank). That’s more than enough Laurels to gear multiple alts with Ascended armors. I made the efforts to get these, even if I only had an hour to play.
BUT… it’s my own personal choice to gear my other characters. I’m not required to, since I’m able to play this game with gear ranging from Masterwork to Rare. If I’m too lazy to fully equip them with all Exotics, that doesn’t meant I can’t play this game the way Anet intended.
In GW2, Trading Post plays you!
Complainers want an easier, alternative way to get Ascended gear. By asking for another method to acquire Ascended gear that’s easier than Crafting and RNG chest drops, would basically invalidate the need to Craft in the first place. Why would Anet put in place something that punishes the people who spent the time and money to level their Disciplines to 500?
This alone proves you don’t know what I am saying or what people are asking for.
NOT ASKING FOR EASIER, ALTERNATIVE WAY.
Did you purposely skip over the parts where I said, even harder alternative methods would be welcomed by me. Or just ignore them? I don’t care if its harder alternate methods. RNG chance is not a viable harder method as you’re not actually working on anything, you’re hoping on chance. I just do NOT WANT TO CRAFT AND MINDLESSLY GRIND.
Again, you are arguing something I did not say. Or even hint at. And I said the exact opposite many times over. Something else of EQUAL or even HARDER difficulty that does not involve crafting.
I don’t know how else I can say it, because you just don’t get it. You keep falling back to an argument against something I am not in any way, shape or form saying.The alternative already exists if they drop from Ascended chests. So then we players have two ways to get it: Crafting or RNG. Neither is locked behind P2W doors, and are casual/alt friendly.
>RNG
>Alt Friendly.
Do you know what alt friendly means?
RNG isnt even main friendly O.o
Complainers want an easier, alternative way to get Ascended gear. By asking for another method to acquire Ascended gear that’s easier than Crafting and RNG chest drops, would basically invalidate the need to Craft in the first place. Why would Anet put in place something that punishes the people who spent the time and money to level their Disciplines to 500?
This alone proves you don’t know what I am saying or what people are asking for.
NOT ASKING FOR EASIER, ALTERNATIVE WAY.
Did you purposely skip over the parts where I said, even harder alternative methods would be welcomed by me. Or just ignore them? I don’t care if its harder alternate methods. RNG chance is not a viable harder method as you’re not actually working on anything, you’re hoping on chance. I just do NOT WANT TO CRAFT AND MINDLESSLY GRIND.
Again, you are arguing something I did not say. Or even hint at. And I said the exact opposite many times over. Something else of EQUAL or even HARDER difficulty that does not involve crafting.
I don’t know how else I can say it, because you just don’t get it. You keep falling back to an argument against something I am not in any way, shape or form saying.The alternative already exists if they drop from Ascended chests. So then we players have two ways to get it: Crafting or RNG. Neither is locked behind P2W doors, and are casual/alt friendly.
>RNG
>Alt Friendly.
Do you know what alt friendly means?
RNG isnt even main friendly O.o
If you don’t like RNG, the alternative to that is to craft. That’s a guaranteed way to get the specific type of armor you want.
In GW2, Trading Post plays you!
No content in this game requires ascended anything. I happily play all dungeons/WvW/fractals with no ascended gear whatsoever. You’re making it sound like even fractal 40+ can’t be done without ascended. Multiple players have been doing fractal 50+ with exotic armour before any changes. It is just there for a goal and a prestige look, but is far from required.
I was like woooot? I’m such a trollbait. xD
Give me game. Not grind, not gating, not RNG, not +stat junk, not checklists.