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Posted by: drwookie.6391

drwookie.6391

At least for ~ 4 months

I think this is the direction they should go. It only makes sense. Our ascended accessories are all in, and they remain exclusive to the PvE crowd. It encourages you to play the PvE part of the game. They need something to encourage people to play the other part of the game, WvW.

Since Ascended Armor isn’t really a question of “if”, just “when”, I think they should plan on releasing them slowly in WvW. During that time they can say that they are “working on adding it to other parts of the game”. Having ascended armor released in WvW will encourage people to populate the battlefields, and not just so they can whine in map chat about that one tower they want everyone to cap for them to complete their world completion. Make it require something like badges, so they actually have to participate.

This would further diversify the areas of the game that everyone plays in. They want people to take part in multiple aspects of the game, this would do just that.

Of course if you’ve noticed part of my post is made in jest (such as the “working on adding it to other parts of the game”, etc….). However, I am in many ways being completely serious. Why shouldn’t they give WvW exclusive equipment that is “Best in Slot”? At least temporarily. It’s only fair.

Now if people want to bring up how ascended gear is for more agony, which is only used in fractals. Well, if ascended gear was for only agony, it would have the stats of an exotic with just agony thrown on. So clearly ascended gear’s purpose is NOT purely agony resistance, so don’t pretend it is.

Anyway, any reasonable reasons why this shouldn’t happen? It fits with the direction they are taking the game, where they encourage people to grind multiple aspects of the game (laurels, fractals, guild missions, next WvW).

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Posted by: Lexandro.1456

Lexandro.1456

No

Ascended armor makes all the exotics and unique named items worthless and pointless. It would kill half the games economy.

Rings/amulets etc are minor items that can easily be added for ascended gear. And thats why thats what we are getting.

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Posted by: Adam.4103

Adam.4103

Or they could just add ascended accessories… Which they are doing.

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Posted by: Distaste.4801

Distaste.4801

WvW will have an ascended item, that’s the path they’ve been going. They are trying to spread ascended a crossed all the types of gameplay and WvW is probably next. The issue though is that the outcry will be huge, especially if it’s weapons. What arenanet needs to do is just make all ascended gear available through ALL means; karma, badges, tokens, fractals, etc. Then people could play the way they wanted, but ArenaNet would rather drive players off instead of let them get gear the way they prefer to play.

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Posted by: drwookie.6391

drwookie.6391

Or they could just add ascended accessories… Which they are doing.

They are “working on it”

For the past 4 months

While they added in more kinds of ascended gear

…It is clearly not a priority for them.

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Posted by: drwookie.6391

drwookie.6391

WvW will have an ascended item, that’s the path they’ve been going. They are trying to spread ascended a crossed all the types of gameplay and WvW is probably next. The issue though is that the outcry will be huge, especially if it’s weapons. What arenanet needs to do is just make all ascended gear available through ALL means; karma, badges, tokens, fractals, etc. Then people could play the way they wanted, but ArenaNet would rather drive players off instead of let them get gear the way they prefer to play.

In the perfect world of course, but if you look at what they’ve been doing they aren’t going down that path. They release accessories and make them exclusive to guild missions. Why not add them to the fractals and dailies at the same time? They clearly want to encourage people to do multiple kinds of activities. WHy not encourage WvW?

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Posted by: drwookie.6391

drwookie.6391

No

Ascended armor makes all the exotics and unique named items worthless and pointless. It would kill half the games economy.

Rings/amulets etc are minor items that can easily be added for ascended gear. And thats why thats what we are getting.

I have a VERY VERY hard to believing that they won’t extend the ascended gear into armor and weapons. Ascended gear is an entire new tier, nothing really suggests otherwise.

Just like there have been rumors (and perhaps some small comments) regarding the future of legendaries, and how there will likely be legendary armor as well in the future.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

You want this game to die due to pride of wwwers?
They did a wrong thing keeping ascended items out of www making www players unhappy and now you want your Revenge making pve players angry too?

I ll tell you a thing

PvE players while the mayority suffers constantly the “balancing” for www that makes pve the most unbalanced part of the game.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Leo Paul.1659

Leo Paul.1659

They’ve already stated that they are implementing ascended weapons. Might as well make us earn it via another random method.

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Posted by: Mungrul.9358

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I wonder how much ascended pieces of armour will cost? Look at how much the trinkets require at the moment, then apply that to armour.
Let’s say that conservatively speaking, ascended trinkets are approximately six times as expensive as exotic ones (in reality, it’s probably closer to ten times).

Let’s directly apply that multiplier to the existing currency for WvW armour, Badges of Honour.
That means the price for one piece of ascended armour, given ArenaNet’s current behaviour, is likely to cost 1,800 badges or more.

Yeah, good luck with that.

Exotic equipment is already too expensive badge-wise. Ascended will just rub salt into the wound.

Note that this is conjecture, not based on any secret knowledge.

Please note that due to restrictions placed on my account, I am only allowed 1 post per hour.
Therefore I may take some time replying to you.

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Posted by: drwookie.6391

drwookie.6391

You want this game to die due to pride of wwwers?
They did a wrong thing keeping ascended items out of www making www players unhappy and now you want your Revenge making pve players angry too?

I ll tell you a thing

PvE players while the mayority suffers constantly the “balancing” for www that makes pve the most unbalanced part of the game.

It’s not due to pride. It’s to further the path they are taking now. They are releasing every new type of ascended gear via some different aspect of the game. It is my understanding you can only get the accessories through guild missions.

Why not? I’m not saying FOREVER. I’m just saying for a limited time, as it is now.

And we aren’t talking about skill balances. That is off topic, so if you want to discuss that make a new thread.

EDIT:

If somebody wants a full set of “Best in Slot” gear, they should diversify their playstyle. Grind fractals, grind daillies, grind guild missions AND grind WvW. Sounds 100% reasonable. Why leave WvW out?

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Posted by: Xaaz.8472

Xaaz.8472

Personally, I see it very fitting. My small guild loves to do Fractals, Dungeons, and WvW. Now, we are kinda screwed with the guild missions and will most likely only be able to get the earrings through dailies since I won’t join a spam guild just for gear.

I want to see the large spam guilds cry when they have to go into WvW for a certain part. Then I can go back to the guild events post and quote it over and over where they claim everything is “fine”

WvW should absolutely have certain pieces exclusive to it.

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Posted by: Lexandro.1456

Lexandro.1456

No

Ascended armor makes all the exotics and unique named items worthless and pointless. It would kill half the games economy.

Rings/amulets etc are minor items that can easily be added for ascended gear. And thats why thats what we are getting.

I have a VERY VERY hard to believing that they won’t extend the ascended gear into armor and weapons. Ascended gear is an entire new tier, nothing really suggests otherwise.

Just like there have been rumors (and perhaps some small comments) regarding the future of legendaries, and how there will likely be legendary armor as well in the future.

Think for a second ok, what happens to all the legendary gear at 1k+ gold if Ascended weapons come out? They tank in price that what.

That kills gem purchases, which kills Anet profits, which kills the game as a revinue stream, and then kills the game. Added to that is everyone who had legendary/exotics would now be totaly kitten taht they uber gear they have is now essentially worthless
and you have a massive drop in the playerbase which again kills gem purchases, yada yada.

Rings and the like are fine to do, because they are non viewable “extra” items that are generally attainable for everyone with a bit of effort.

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Posted by: stof.9341

stof.9341

Of course it’ll be something like that. But why put all ascended armor at once? Here is the breakdown on activities to get ascended items :

- ring = fractals
- amulet = dailies
- earring = guild PvE zerging

And the future will give us :
- boots = WvW. You need good shoes cause you walk all other the place you see

- pants = sPvP (it’ll only take 2 months to fix the bug where sPvPers cannot move the pants they bought in the mists to the PvE world to make use it, don’t worry)

- gloves = AFKing in town. Accumulate only 30 days worth of total inactivity in town.

- pauldrons = chat. Get the pair you want after you send 50 MB worth of text in the map chat in Lion’s Arch

- helm = monster slayer. 10000 solo kills to get one. 20000 more for the next, then 30000 etc…

- chest = dungeon armor collection. To reward players dedicated to getting all the nice dungeon skins in the game. Just throw in the mystic forge one of each exotic dungeon armor part to get it. Please note that for prestige reasons, the ascended armor is ugly and cannot be reskined and comes only in a single look for all races and stats

- weapons = RP. Once per month ANet will organize a big RP contest and select judges picked from the hardcore RP community will be rating your performance. Top performers can get one weapon each.

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Posted by: Minion of Vey.4398

Minion of Vey.4398

I’d be fine with this.

Have a slot or two gained primarily through WvW (we have all the jewelry covered now, maybe the ascended helm and legs are from WvW or something).

Then put them on the laurel vendor too. Same as they did with the other stuff

Having something meaningful to grind for in WvW would be pretty neat to me.

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Posted by: drwookie.6391

drwookie.6391

No

Ascended armor makes all the exotics and unique named items worthless and pointless. It would kill half the games economy.

Rings/amulets etc are minor items that can easily be added for ascended gear. And thats why thats what we are getting.

I have a VERY VERY hard to believing that they won’t extend the ascended gear into armor and weapons. Ascended gear is an entire new tier, nothing really suggests otherwise.

Just like there have been rumors (and perhaps some small comments) regarding the future of legendaries, and how there will likely be legendary armor as well in the future.

Think for a second ok, what happens to all the legendary gear at 1k+ gold if Ascended weapons come out? They tank in price that what.

That kills gem purchases, which kills Anet profits, which kills the game as a revinue stream, and then kills the game. Added to that is everyone who had legendary/exotics would now be totaly kitten taht they uber gear they have is now essentially worthless
and you have a massive drop in the playerbase which again kills gem purchases, yada yada.

Rings and the like are fine to do, because they are non viewable “extra” items that are generally attainable for everyone with a bit of effort.

Why would ascended weapons tank legendary prices? The legendary weapons would match the ascended weapons in stats, and would still be just as rare and difficult to obtain as they were before ascended weapons were released.

A legendary weapon isn’t expensive right now because it is better than an exotic weapon. It has the same stats. That wouldn’t change with ascended weapons, they would just bump the stats of the legendary to match.

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Posted by: drwookie.6391

drwookie.6391

Of course it’ll be something like that. But why put all ascended armor at once? Here is the breakdown on activities to get ascended items :

- ring = fractals
- amulet = dailies
- earring = guild PvE zerging

And the future will give us :
- boots = WvW. You need good shoes cause you walk all other the place you see

- pants = sPvP (it’ll only take 2 months to fix the bug where sPvPers cannot move the pants they bought in the mists to the PvE world to make use it, don’t worry)

- gloves = AFKing in town. Accumulate only 30 days worth of total inactivity in town.

- pauldrons = chat. Get the pair you want after you send 50 MB worth of text in the map chat in Lion’s Arch

- helm = monster slayer. 10000 solo kills to get one. 20000 more for the next, then 30000 etc…

- chest = dungeon armor collection. To reward players dedicated to getting all the nice dungeon skins in the game. Just throw in the mystic forge one of each exotic dungeon armor part to get it. Please note that for prestige reasons, the ascended armor is ugly and cannot be reskined and comes only in a single look for all races and stats

- weapons = RP. Once per month ANet will organize a big RP contest and select judges picked from the hardcore RP community will be rating your performance. Top performers can get one weapon each.

haha, i read the first two and thought you were serious.

And yes, the suggestion someone else made seems reasonable. Not EVERY armor slot, just a few. ANd yes, you can make them available at laurel vendors since rings and amulets are (and I assume accessories will be as well? Don’t know why they aren’t there now, unless they are and I didn’t notice).

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Posted by: captaincrunch.6731

captaincrunch.6731

No

Ascended armor makes all the exotics and unique named items worthless and pointless. It would kill half the games economy.

Rings/amulets etc are minor items that can easily be added for ascended gear. And thats why thats what we are getting.

I have a VERY VERY hard to believing that they won’t extend the ascended gear into armor and weapons. Ascended gear is an entire new tier, nothing really suggests otherwise.

Just like there have been rumors (and perhaps some small comments) regarding the future of legendaries, and how there will likely be legendary armor as well in the future.

Think for a second ok, what happens to all the legendary gear at 1k+ gold if Ascended weapons come out? They tank in price that what.

That kills gem purchases, which kills Anet profits, which kills the game as a revinue stream, and then kills the game. Added to that is everyone who had legendary/exotics would now be totaly kitten taht they uber gear they have is now essentially worthless
and you have a massive drop in the playerbase which again kills gem purchases, yada yada.

Rings and the like are fine to do, because they are non viewable “extra” items that are generally attainable for everyone with a bit of effort.

You’re being a bit naive here. Why would better gear kill anet’s profits anyways? Players would just need more money to buy new stuff – and for those that acquire gold via gem purchases, that means more gems/money for anet.

This debate was already had, months ago. They will have ascended everything and are just rolling them out bit by bit over the course of the year (or longer). Legendaries will eventually just have ascended stats.

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Posted by: playandchill.3908

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Nice thread 100% agree

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Posted by: stof.9341

stof.9341

And yes, the suggestion someone else made seems reasonable. Not EVERY armor slot, just a few. ANd yes, you can make them available at laurel vendors since rings and amulets are (and I assume accessories will be as well? Don’t know why they aren’t there now, unless they are and I didn’t notice).

Accessories are there, they just cost a TRUCKLOAD of laurels, and ectos. 40 Laurels and 50 ectos each.

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Posted by: drwookie.6391

drwookie.6391

And yes, the suggestion someone else made seems reasonable. Not EVERY armor slot, just a few. ANd yes, you can make them available at laurel vendors since rings and amulets are (and I assume accessories will be as well? Don’t know why they aren’t there now, unless they are and I didn’t notice).

Accessories are there, they just cost a TRUCKLOAD of laurels, and ectos. 40 Laurels and 50 ectos each.

Okay so they can stay consistent with that.

Introduce the first two ascended pieces of armor into WvW. Make them available at laurel vendors for a lot of laurels and ectos.

That way we will have Fractals with some gear, Guild Missions with some gear, WvW with some gear. Makes sense.

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Posted by: Medazolam.3058

Medazolam.3058

there will obviously be WvW exclusive (at least for at ime) ascended gear, i would have thought it to be earings, but now it looks like armor/weapons.

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Posted by: Fortuna.7259

Fortuna.7259

They’ve already stated that they are implementing ascended weapons. Might as well make us earn it via another random method.

Ascended weapons will come from the SUPER DUPER Mystic Forge (because too many people decided they don’t like it – we will MAKE them do it). First you have 32 guild members on 32 level 1 forges… when they get lucky (after spamming materials into said forges) the results pass to 16 guild members on level 2 forges, who then pass to 8, 4, 2, and finally the SUPER DUPER Mystic Forge will spit out a random account bound ascended weapon (good luck getting what you want). But to UNLOCK this PRIVELEDGED CLICKFEST you first need 50000 guild wazoo’s obtainable ONLY by farming level 1-15 zones (so new players don’t log in to a ghost town… and also so they want to buy gems so they can get the chocobo mounts they see the “dedicated” players riding)

And because there is never just one way to get gear, you can instead buy ascended weapons from vendors for 500 Stonemist Capture Tokens (guess how you get them?), 250 ecto (because does ecto drop in any other quantity? I don’t think so!), and 300 laurels (because the next expansion isn’t due till then).

Enjoy!

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Posted by: Sardonia.8196

Sardonia.8196

WvW will have an ascended item, that’s the path they’ve been going. They are trying to spread ascended a crossed all the types of gameplay and WvW is probably next. The issue though is that the outcry will be huge, especially if it’s weapons. What arenanet needs to do is just make all ascended gear available through ALL means; karma, badges, tokens, fractals, etc. Then people could play the way they wanted, but ArenaNet would rather drive players off instead of let them get gear the way they prefer to play.

This, so much this

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Posted by: Avatar.1923

Avatar.1923

problem is Anet servers/maps cannot support too many people in wvw; its gonna be 3hours wait….

lets see how they handle wvw and players demand once they roll out the new update, then we will see if its time for them to brin more people in.

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Posted by: somsom.5201

somsom.5201

This would be a VERY bad move IMO and that’s coming from someone who spends most of their time in WvW. GW2 is by and large a PvE game, say what you want, but it is. Just look at all the dev focus so far…PvE this or that, with minor changes to sPvP or WvW.

Flat out adding a HUGE stat increase(don’t smirk, ascended acc. are a big increase, all armor…HUGE increase) from something that is not a “core” part of the game…would KILL a large population.

Casual players are already complaining about the current “grind”, how do you think they would respond to a move like this? On top of that, I’ve seen MANY a WvW player complain about people doing “PvE in WvW” aka jumping puzzles. Imagine the complaints when Timmy says in /t “Hey guys, I just need to do my 50 badges daily for my ascended gear, where can I grind some kills?”…

Think about what you’re wishing for OP…I guarantee you it isn’t what you want.

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Posted by: Avatar.1923

Avatar.1923

people will always complain.
but nobody have a better solution.

anet handle their themepark in a quite good manner as it is now.

casuals complaining?
they arent casuals.

only people who can complain (imo) are legendary grinders.

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Posted by: drwookie.6391

drwookie.6391

This would be a VERY bad move IMO and that’s coming from someone who spends most of their time in WvW. GW2 is by and large a PvE game, say what you want, but it is. Just look at all the dev focus so far…PvE this or that, with minor changes to sPvP or WvW.

Flat out adding a HUGE stat increase(don’t smirk, ascended acc. are a big increase, all armor…HUGE increase) from something that is not a “core” part of the game…would KILL a large population.

Casual players are already complaining about the current “grind”, how do you think they would respond to a move like this? On top of that, I’ve seen MANY a WvW player complain about people doing “PvE in WvW” aka jumping puzzles. Imagine the complaints when Timmy says in /t “Hey guys, I just need to do my 50 badges daily for my ascended gear, where can I grind some kills?”…

Think about what you’re wishing for OP…I guarantee you it isn’t what you want.

Ultimately all I care about is to be able to obtain the Best in Slot items by playing the game the way I want to play (which is, like you, almost entirely WvW).

While yes they have stated it’s coming, I’m not holding my breath. 4 months and not a single piece of ascended gear has been added to WvW. In that amount of time they have ADDED more ascended gear, that continues to be unavailable. If the update next month doesn’t give us access to ALL of the ascended jewelry, but only one, then at the rate they are going we will always been behind other people by a good half year at least.

It seems clear to me that they DON"T want to allow us to obtain best in slot gear however we want to play. It seems clear they want to encourage people to play ALL aspects of the game. They have been doing that by releasing different types of ascended gear to different game areas (while also having them on the laurel vendor as the secondary alternative to each). If that is the path they want to take, I can’t change them. I am merely asking them to INCLUDE us at least a little bit in that path. Don’t encourage people to play “All avenues of the game”, except PvP. That will kill WvW far more than adding the gear into WvW will, in my opinion.

If each piece required hundreds of badges, people wouldn’t be able to just hop into EB, ask for 15 minutes, get it and go. They would actually have to be active participants in WvW. Yes the JP provides badges, but to be honest I think we would all be better off if they removed them from WvW (or at least removed the badge reward). People don’t actually “do” the jumping puzzles these days anyway, they just whine for a mesmer.

In any case. Yes my ultimate goal is to just be able to play the game the way I would like (WvW), and still know that I’m not using inferior gear to people who play the game another way. That is in keeping with the design of this game from the very beginning, there are multiple quotes stating that was their goal. If they really have no intention of reaching that goal, then my “secondary goal” is to AT LEAST give WvW a slice of the pie, just one freakin slice.

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Posted by: tom.7468

tom.7468

I wouldn’t like this because after the transfer cost I’m stuck in this server. I’m not going to pay to transfer. although were quite decent in w3 some of the w3 guilds just really bugs me sometimes. with the communist attitude. I’m forced to play with them or go solo. would much rather have this as a reward from dungeons.

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Posted by: drwookie.6391

drwookie.6391

I wouldn’t like this because after the transfer cost I’m stuck in this server. I’m not going to pay to transfer. although were quite decent in w3 some of the w3 guilds just really bugs me sometimes. with the communist attitude. I’m forced to play with them or go solo. would much rather have this as a reward from dungeons.

The point is you already have rewards from dungeons. Why can’t we have some of the rewards as well?

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Posted by: Joey.2769

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It’s insane how much the WvW community gets forgotten in this game. I thought this was suppose to be the shinning part of meta end game….. but we still have no viable way to earn money in WvW due to expensive upgrades and armor fix. Still have culling, still no orbs. Outmanned buff is absolutely pointless. Oh and no way to acquire BIS ascended. Hmm I think it is time for them to give a whole lot more care to this part of the community!

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Posted by: drwookie.6391

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It’s insane how much the WvW community gets forgotten in this game. I thought this was suppose to be the shinning part of meta end game….. but we still have no viable way to earn money in WvW due to expensive upgrades and armor fix. Still have culling, still no orbs. Outmanned buff is absolutely pointless. Oh and no way to acquire BIS ascended. Hmm I think it is time for them to give a whole lot more care to this part of the community!

To be honest I think they sat down and discussed the different types of players they are, and the other games that offer competition. I think they decided/realized that they could shaft/ignore the active WvW-type players far longer than the dungeon grinders who jump from game to game, so they focused on the dungeon grinders first since there are always new shiny games for them to play.

I mean if there was a game that offered a similar WvW experience out there right now (that was released within a reasonable amount of time, I realize I could always go back to DAoC), I would be gone in an instant. I’m sure many others would be. If a game like ArcheAge or similar that promises large battlefield-style PvP was available as competition, I think they would get off their kitten a bit quicker and get to work. As it is now, they figure they can add a couple bug fixes each month, and push back the “WvW Patch” another month since most of us (WvWers) aren’t going anywhere yet.

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Posted by: Joey.2769

Joey.2769

Very true but I’m sure just like me we will not forget or forgive so easily if by the next patch our concerns are still not dealt with. I know I had only considered this game to be my home but with the continual smack in the face of WvW/RvR community I am now eager to see what Elder Scrolls can do.

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Posted by: drwookie.6391

drwookie.6391

Very true but I’m sure just like me we will not forget or forgive so easily if by the next patch our concerns are still not dealt with. I know I had only considered this game to be my home but with the continual smack in the face of WvW/RvR community I am now eager to see what Elder Scrolls can do.

If you like WvW, I hope you’ve checked out ArcheAge as well. They have some pretty awesome looking siege engines in their battlefields

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Posted by: Joey.2769

Joey.2769

Awesome will check it out! Thank you

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Posted by: Minion of Vey.4398

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This would be a VERY bad move IMO and that’s coming from someone who spends most of their time in WvW. GW2 is by and large a PvE game, say what you want, but it is. Just look at all the dev focus so far…PvE this or that, with minor changes to sPvP or WvW.

Flat out adding a HUGE stat increase(don’t smirk, ascended acc. are a big increase, all armor…HUGE increase) from something that is not a “core” part of the game…would KILL a large population.

Casual players are already complaining about the current “grind”, how do you think they would respond to a move like this? On top of that, I’ve seen MANY a WvW player complain about people doing “PvE in WvW” aka jumping puzzles. Imagine the complaints when Timmy says in /t “Hey guys, I just need to do my 50 badges daily for my ascended gear, where can I grind some kills?”…

Think about what you’re wishing for OP…I guarantee you it isn’t what you want.

I don’t think it’d be that severe.

I mean there’s people that don’t want to do guild missions planning on buying accessories with laurels. We can have ascended helms and gloves (or whatever, pick a slot or two we don’t have ascended for yet) from WvW in the same way, and also have them buyable with laurels.

Laurels can be the base level go to for people that really don’t want to do whatever particular content. It probably won’t be desirable to try to get EVERYTHING with laurels and insist on not using any of the primary paths for at least some slots, that’d take too long but you could pick and choose well enough.

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Posted by: Zomaarwat.3912

Zomaarwat.3912

Yes, because what we need is more qeues!
In all seriousness, the queues are pretty long sometimes and pop up at the most unfortunate times. WvW doesnt need more players, at least not on my server. Theyll have to make it interesting some other way. Ascended gear can go wherever the kitten it wants to go.

Over a year and the forum search is still broken = /

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

Does the OP really want bigger queues for WvW, filled with PvE players who don’t really know what’s going on, and don’t really give a toss about WvW? I find that hard to believe. lol

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Posted by: kishter.9578

kishter.9578

WHY people keep calling WvW? is called ZvZ PERIOD.

We just don’t want players to grind in Guild Wars 2. No one enjoys that.

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Posted by: Riselight.3695

Riselight.3695

No,
I don’t want Ascended armor.
Why not? The trinkets are not upgradable (I’m not talking about Infusion), will Ascended armor have bound runes? If they won’t use this kitten system for armor, what’s the point then? There is nothing special about it, only an extra gear tier to kitten off people. Ascended trinkets atleast had something exclusive.
What about people who have spent many time in running dungeons to see their armor becoming worthless because of the Ascended armor?

Also, I don’t want a kind of Ascended items (especially armor) to become exclusive to WvW, even more PvE’ers will camp for hours in JP because Ascended Amor will probably be available for Badges of Honor.

WHY people keep calling WvW? is called ZvZ PERIOD.

I think this is normal. If there are 50 people, and they don’t group up and rather roam around a map, you have 50 stupid people…
It’s in the nature of men to group up. A zerg is way more effective and necessary because you can’t solo a Tower, keep or castle.
If you don’t like WvW because you don’t like the logic behind nature, then don’t play it. PERIOD

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Posted by: kishter.9578

kishter.9578

No,
I don’t want Ascended armor.
Why not? The trinkets are not upgradable (I’m not talking about Infusion), will Ascended armor have bound runes? If they won’t use this kitten system for armor, what’s the point then? There is nothing special about it, only an extra gear tier to kitten off people. Ascended trinkets atleast had something exclusive.
What about people who have spent many time in running dungeons to see their armor becoming worthless because of the Ascended armor?

Also, I don’t want a kind of Ascended items (especially armor) to become exclusive to WvW, even more PvE’ers will camp for hours in JP because Ascended Amor will probably be available for Badges of Honor.

WHY people keep calling WvW? is called ZvZ PERIOD.

I think this is normal. If there are 50 people, and they don’t group up and rather roam around a map, you have 50 stupid people…
It’s in the nature of men to group up. A zerg is way more effective and necessary because you can’t solo a Tower, keep or castle.
If you don’t like WvW because you don’t like the logic behind nature, then don’t play it. PERIOD

i dont.

We just don’t want players to grind in Guild Wars 2. No one enjoys that.

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Posted by: Darth Llama.9217

Darth Llama.9217

So, I look around the net and I can’t find anywhere that ANet has ever verified that there will be Ascended Gear beyond trinkets. Have they ever actually said that there will be Ascended Armor and Weapons?

I’m hoping that they won’t, I’m actually happy with the minimal time investment required to acquire Exotics in GW2. The only real thing you have to sink a ton of time into is Legendaries and those are just skins.

I hope they never do Ascended Armor and Weapons, that has ‘just another grind’ written all over it. Is there an article anywhere that confirms that they’re even implementing Ascended items beyond Rings, Accessories and Amulets?

There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand Binary, and those who don’t.

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Posted by: stof.9341

stof.9341

So, I look around the net and I can’t find anywhere that ANet has ever verified that there will be Ascended Gear beyond trinkets. Have they ever actually said that there will be Ascended Armor and Weapons?

Yes. They said :
- Legendaries will have improved stats to match Ascended weapons cause Legendaries are supposed to be the best. The fact the improved stats were available (as a mistake) for one day when the first ascended items were released is proof enough they well intend to do it.
- Some ANet dev said they’ll be releasing ascended weapons for guild commendations.

I’m sure there are other examples.

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Posted by: Darth Llama.9217

Darth Llama.9217

So, I look around the net and I can’t find anywhere that ANet has ever verified that there will be Ascended Gear beyond trinkets. Have they ever actually said that there will be Ascended Armor and Weapons?

Yes. They said :
- Legendaries will have improved stats to match Ascended weapons cause Legendaries are supposed to be the best. The fact the improved stats were available (as a mistake) for one day when the first ascended items were released is proof enough they well intend to do it.
- Some ANet dev said they’ll be releasing ascended weapons for guild commendations.

I’m sure there are other examples.

Is there a source where someone from ANet officially said this? Not calling you a liar or anything, just that the only news I have seen like this is from people on forums. I have never seen anything on this from ANet.

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand Binary, and those who don’t.

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Posted by: Lukhas.1962

Lukhas.1962

At least for ~ 4 months

I think this is the direction they should go. It only makes sense. Our ascended accessories are all in, and they remain exclusive to the PvE crowd.

I read until here…..

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Posted by: marnick.4305

marnick.4305

Correcting a wrong with a wrong… OP’s suggestion is just one step above a lynch mob. So much hatred and contempt for PVE players while those same PVE players weren’t happy with the original implementation either.

I do agree that WvW can get the easier way for 1 or 2 pieces of ascended gear, but all other currently implemented types should be available too.

If I can’t play Guild Wars 2 at work, I won’t work in Guild Wars 2 either.
Delayed content is eventually good. Rushed content is eternally bad. ~ Shigeru Miyamoto

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Posted by: stof.9341

stof.9341

So, I look around the net and I can’t find anywhere that ANet has ever verified that there will be Ascended Gear beyond trinkets. Have they ever actually said that there will be Ascended Armor and Weapons?

Yes. They said :
- Legendaries will have improved stats to match Ascended weapons cause Legendaries are supposed to be the best. The fact the improved stats were available (as a mistake) for one day when the first ascended items were released is proof enough they well intend to do it.
- Some ANet dev said they’ll be releasing ascended weapons for guild commendations.

I’m sure there are other examples.

Is there a source where someone from ANet officially said this? Not calling you a liar or anything, just that the only news I have seen like this is from people on forums. I have never seen anything on this from ANet.

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

The first one is old and was I though kind of common knowledge. ANet did say they intend to release a full ascended kit over time though.

The second one isn’t a certainty. They don’t want to commit to anything anyway but they did post :

Ascended weapons may be available from guild content at some point in the future, but that hasn’t been decided yet.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Rejoice-Small-Guilds-Guild-Mission-Blog-Post/first#post1682308

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Posted by: Red Falcon.8257

Red Falcon.8257

WHY people keep calling WvW? is called ZvZ PERIOD.

I understand that people who never played mass-pvp games can’t see that mass pvp is about many vs many, but it isn’t really a problem with WvW, it’s simply how it works.
You might not realize it but in T1 servers “zerging” in its real meaning, aka tossing a bunch of unskilled people randomly against something, does not work.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

WHY people keep calling WvW? is called ZvZ PERIOD.

You might not realize it but in T1 servers “zerging” in its real meaning, aka tossing a bunch of unskilled people randomly against something, does not work.

Actually tier 1 servers in EU are all about zergs note T1 servers complaints about that…..

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Caledore.6271

Caledore.6271

So, I look around the net and I can’t find anywhere that ANet has ever verified that there will be Ascended Gear beyond trinkets. Have they ever actually said that there will be Ascended Armor and Weapons?

I’m hoping that they won’t, I’m actually happy with the minimal time investment required to acquire Exotics in GW2. The only real thing you have to sink a ton of time into is Legendaries and those are just skins.

I hope they never do Ascended Armor and Weapons, that has ‘just another grind’ written all over it.

I’m with you, and not to mention anyone who wants new Ascended armor/weapons but likes their current skins will have to buy more Fine transmutation stones – and that means either buying gems with real money, or even more grinding to get the gold to exchange for gems.