Guild Wars 2

Link describing fractal weapons:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fractal_weapons

All ascended gear should be similar by offering basically skins.

This would improve the gameplay experience of players.

If that’s how Ascended gear was introduced I’d still be playing this game. Most of the gold I earned, which wasn’t a huge amount after siege and structure repairs, and pretty much all of the gems I bought on a monthly basis was spent on my characters appearance. The gear stats for my build, being a set I had to mostly pve for to play WvW, were something I just tried to get out of the way so I could get to playing the game.

I’m sure I wouldn’t have one piece of it since I didn’t play that part of the game, but I’d definitely ohh & ahhh at it and appreciate that those people did their thing….as long as there was another line of gear for WvW.

Except for those that want to chase items with better stats.

But it’s all about you amirite?

Mercucial.6759:

Except for those that want to chase items with better stats.

But it’s all about you amirite?

If you want grind you bought the wrong game…
Your fault….

Also getting the +10 atk ascended weapon to kill the mob with +10 defense is really something players need….

Those aren’t skins. Those are weapons without upgrades or attributes. You talk about them like fine transmutation stones are free.

Mercucial.6759:

Except for those that want to chase items with better stats.

But it’s all about you amirite?

Getting the best stats isn’t a play style, everyone wants the best stats.

LordByron.8369:

Mercucial.6759:

Except for those that want to chase items with better stats.

But it’s all about you amirite?

If you want grind you bought the wrong game…
Your fault….

Also getting the +10 atk ascended weapon to kill the mob with +10 defense is really something players need….

Except everything in this game is a grind.

But I never said I was a player who cares about chasing higher stat items, because I don’t. But some people enjoy the feeling of working towards something that makes their character stronger, so let them enjoy it.

Mercucial.6759:

LordByron.8369:

Mercucial.6759:

Except for those that want to chase items with better stats.

But it’s all about you amirite?

If you want grind you bought the wrong game…
Your fault….

Also getting the +10 atk ascended weapon to kill the mob with +10 defense is really something players need….

Except everything in this game is a grind.

But I never said I was a player who cares about chasing higher stat items, because I don’t. But some people enjoy the feeling of working towards something that makes their character stronger, so let them enjoy it.

The problem is that their fun negatively impacts everyone else’s. a gear grind doesn’t just give the “strivers” something to do, it plants the idea in all others’ heads that their character is not complete, and that instead they must go grind in preparation to have fun. Even when a person decides to ignore the new items there’s a nugget of disappointment since they have been locked out of a portion of the game.

(Note: I’ve said several times in other threads that I don’t believe ascended does this. It does remain to be seen if they continue the treadmill once the “I’ve finished my ascended now I’m bored, where’s the endgame!!” threads start appearing though.)

I disagree. Fractal skins are significantly different from ascended trinkets. The skins are just skins. The trinkets are a gating mechanism.

Yeah, ascended gear should just be skins, especially when all ascended gear currently in game is jewelry. Man it will be so awesome to show off their completely non-visual appearence to people, they are gonna be so jelly.

Shayne Hawke.9160:

Those aren’t skins. Those are weapons without upgrades or attributes. You talk about them like fine transmutation stones are free.

But they are skins, that is all they are good for. At the point where you have even a slight chance of the right fractal weapon for you build dropping, the cost of a single transmutation stone is negligible. Most likely, you already made more then that in the 30+ fractal run that even dropped the weapon in the first place.

Mercucial.6759:

LordByron.8369:

Mercucial.6759:

Except for those that want to chase items with better stats.

But it’s all about you amirite?

If you want grind you bought the wrong game…
Your fault….

Also getting the +10 atk ascended weapon to kill the mob with +10 defense is really something players need….

Except everything in this game is a grind.

But I never said I was a player who cares about chasing higher stat items, because I don’t. But some people enjoy the feeling of working towards something that makes their character stronger, so let them enjoy it.

I just worked to my tier 3 Asura Cultural, to me that was the heart of Guildwars 2 not a gear treadmill..

I’m so sick of these “ascended gear ruined our game” crap… Most of these people don’t even run fotm & cry because they feel it’s too hard cuz CoF path 1 is probably the hardest dungeon they’ve ever come across.

If ascended gear should be easily obtainable, then legendaries should be too, it’s only fair, 1 undesirable route of gear obtaining deserves another. Tired of these dumb threads crying over +10 stats on an item that you can’t even tell someone has.

Narrow-minded selfishness.. Any of you want to trade me a legendary so i can run ur sorry behind upto fractals 10+ so you can get ur stupid ring?

I disagree.

You don’t need ascended for anything but fractals.

If you don’t want to get it, don’t. No one is forcing you to get it.

I don’t mind having a tier above exotic. I have never once felt that I needed to get any. I have gotten a few pieces because I have laurels but I have yet to run even 1 fractal on any of my characters and I’ve been playing since shortly before they introduced fractals.

I am considering getting a back piece but I’m just doing a little min/max now. If I do get it, great but I’m not going to worry if I decide I don’t care to get one.

Get over it already.

Mercucial.6759:

Except for those that want to chase items with better stats.

But it’s all about you amirite?

Every other MMO that has ever existed is waiting for those players with open arms. This game and it’s predecessor were marketed to not have gear grind. This game has changed it’s ways for higher profits. Us players that don’t need a game to tell us how good we are but let our own skill level decide have no where else to go. This was out last refuge.

But it’s all about their kind ruining this game before they hop on the next MMO bandwagon, amirite?

1 dungeon and you’re crying about gear grind – to laugh or not to laugh, this is the question and it’s for 2 rings (which you can get with laurels anyway) & 1 back piece. FotM payers still have to get laurels for amulet & earrings… This topic goes on & on over – kittenedness 100% no preservatives straight from foolishness with no expiration date.

You casuals stick to whatever it is you do that keep your attention. FoTM doesn’t affect you, pretend it’s not there. You will get ur ascended with time and you will have the same skill you did without it and fail at COF path1 just the same.. It’s like athene said.. you’re either a pro or a noob & noobs will always be jelly.

- this has been my most trolly post, but this topic deserves it, it’s so much crying about “play the way you want” yet everyone is so content with everything in the game being dictated.. trait choice, weapon choice, the market, pvp.. all limited because of design. FoTM doesn’t concern casual players, gtfo go camp dragons, explore the world & do w/e u do.

Mercucial.6759:

Except for those that want to chase items with better stats.

But it’s all about you amirite?

There are over 100+ MMOs on MMORPG.com that follow the tired and archaic gear grind model that Everquest/WoW popularized. Some were even released within months of GW2. If a player came to GW2, knowing its predecessor didn’t have that and that the developers had made no mention of it, and STILL demanded and expected to see it I implemented… well, I suppose a sense of entitlement is to be expected in an MMO playerbase from time to time.

kash.9213:

If that’s how Ascended gear was introduced I’d still be playing this game. Most of the gold I earned, which wasn’t a huge amount after siege and structure repairs, and pretty much all of the gems I bought on a monthly basis was spent on my characters appearance. The gear stats for my build, being a set I had to mostly pve for to play WvW, were something I just tried to get out of the way so I could get to playing the game.

I’m sure I wouldn’t have one piece of it since I didn’t play that part of the game, but I’d definitely ohh & ahhh at it and appreciate that those people did their thing….as long as there was another line of gear for WvW.

I cannot +1 this enough.

Mujen.2089:

1 dungeon and you’re crying about gear grind – to laugh or not to laugh, this is the question and it’s for 2 rings (which you can get with laurels anyway) & 1 back piece. FotM payers still have to get laurels for amulet & earrings… This topic goes on & on over – kittenedness 100% no preservatives straight from foolishness with no expiration date.

2 rings, a back piece… Oh and the every other piece of armor a character can wear, implemented over the course of 2013.

You may find that trivializing an entire full set tier of gear is harder than you think.

Mercucial.6759:

Except for those that want to chase items with better stats.

But it’s all about you amirite?

Fun impacts loot collection. The rarest items in the game are not more powerful than other items, so you dont need them to be the best. The rarest items have unique looks to help your character feel that sense of accomplishment, but its not required to play the game. We dont need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional, so those who find it fun to chase this prestigious gear can do so, but those who dont are just as powerful and get to have fun too.

Colin Johanson

“Here’s what we believe: If someone wants to play for a thousand hours to get an item that is so rare that other players can’t realistically acquire it, that rare item should be differentiated by its visual appearance and rarity alone, not by being more powerful than everything else in the game. Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games — we leave the grind to other MMOs.”

-Mike Obrien, President of Arenanet

Either this is all lies or you are playing the wrong game. Considering the nov 15th update and all the subsequent ones… enjoy the game as its been changed for you.

SonicTHI.3217:

Mercucial.6759:

Except for those that want to chase items with better stats.

But it’s all about you amirite?

Fun impacts loot collection. The rarest items in the game are not more powerful than other items, so you dont need them to be the best. The rarest items have unique looks to help your character feel that sense of accomplishment, but its not required to play the game. We dont need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional, so those who find it fun to chase this prestigious gear can do so, but those who dont are just as powerful and get to have fun too.

Colin Johanson

“Here’s what we believe: If someone wants to play for a thousand hours to get an item that is so rare that other players can’t realistically acquire it, that rare item should be differentiated by its visual appearance and rarity alone, not by being more powerful than everything else in the game. Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games — we leave the grind to other MMOs.”

-Mike Obrien, President of Arenanet

Either this is all lies or you are playing the wrong game. Considering the nov 15th update and all the subsequent ones… enjoy the game as its been changed for you.

I keep trying to hit the + symbol, but it only let’s me do it once. This should be stickied somewhere unbiased.