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Posted by: AnemoneMeer.7182

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They’re not going to just delete Ascended gear as is.

Why not simply demand they make it possible to buy it with Karma/WvW tokens (already said you can in the future)/Crafting recipes (Already said you can in the future) as well as gold/time sink methods.

Right now, the problem isn’t so much it exists, as it’s actually something of an absurd grind for most people. Enabling alternate methods that still take time, but allow the player to spread that time out as they see fit, fixes most of the complaints. Not all, but most.

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Posted by: krs.7520

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Whats the point in demanding things they already confirmed as incoming ?

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Posted by: Osprey.6587

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I would ask you what game with vertical progression has ever made it where the latest and greatest gear can be obtained without doing the latest and greatest dungeon? My guess is they will put in alternative methods of obtaining Ascended gear after they release a new tier of Ascended gear with better stats than the current tier has. At that point they will make the current tier giveaway items.

On the chance I’m wrong and they add it sooner, I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that it will be prohibitively expensive. They didn’t spend resources designing this new content so people can skip it and buy this stuff through alternate means. If they did that, the players would take the path of least resistance as they predictably always do and not do their fancy new dungeon.

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Posted by: Waffler.1257

Waffler.1257

Lol, it’s kitten near impossible to acquire exotic gear with WvW badges. I can’t imagine the nightmare that it would be to obtain ascended gear with WvW badges.

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Posted by: AnemoneMeer.7182

AnemoneMeer.7182

Or, you know, instead of doomsaying, “Game is dead” stuff, we make it very clear what we want without saying “Undo everything you did”, and find a way to make it work for both parties.

It’s incoming, sure, but we should still demand that they hurry and add it atop the current ones instead of later so everyone has a chance to get that gear before the next set comes out.

A decent compormise would be to ask them to wait about a week or two, then release it for the masses. The people who want it NOW, can go grind for it and whatnot, but by the time the next wave rolls around, everyone has the stuff from the previous wave, in this case, before they release earrings, they make rings craftable, and the back item available from Karma/WvW, then release after a week or two of that.

This also keeps power creep to a minimum. MtG did this by rendering old, already mostly obsolete decks banned, but released alot of the core cards in the next deck. GW2 can do this by releasing the gear to everyone before adding the next set of grind gear. 15 power/precision/5% crit damage isn’t going to win you many fights on its own.

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Posted by: Osprey.6587

Osprey.6587

Or, you know, instead of doomsaying, “Game is dead” stuff, we make it very clear what we want without saying “Undo everything you did”, and find a way to make it work for both parties.

It’s incoming, sure, but we should still demand that they hurry and add it atop the current ones instead of later so everyone has a chance to get that gear before the next set comes out.

A decent compormise would be to ask them to wait about a week or two, then release it for the masses. The people who want it NOW, can go grind for it and whatnot, but by the time the next wave rolls around, everyone has the stuff from the previous wave, in this case, before they release earrings, they make rings craftable, and the back item available from Karma/WvW, then release after a week or two of that.

This also keeps power creep to a minimum. MtG did this by rendering old, already mostly obsolete decks banned, but released alot of the core cards in the next deck. GW2 can do this by releasing the gear to everyone before adding the next set of grind gear. 15 power/precision/5% crit damage isn’t going to win you many fights on its own.

I don’t disagree with you but you are overlooking one thing. If they turn around and make it available to everyone through various means, all the people that have been grinding the dungeon are going to whine and whine hard. I’m not being a pessimist, I’m being a realist. I’ve been down this road too many times before. I remember the wailing and gnashing of teeth in WoW right before the launch of TBC when they made everyone able to get High Warlord gear for just honor without actually getting the rank. It still took a ton of grinding warfronts with a premade but it was doable and the people that had gotten it the old way were fit to be tied.

I’d love if they quickly made it where you could get Ascended through other means but then I look at how many badges exotics cost in WvW and I shudder how many Ascended would cost. I have about 4000 WvW kills and in all that I have gotten enough badges to buy maybe 2 pieces of gear (saying that because I bought one piece and I’m sitting on about 200 badges and used a whole lot to buy siege blueprints before I knew about the gear vendor.) I would guess that they would probably price Ascended gear at double what Exotics cost and man, that’s a lot of killing when not everyone drops a bag and not every bag has badges in it.

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Posted by: Arshay Duskbrow.1306

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Undo everything you did, please.

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Posted by: Polaritie.4851

Polaritie.4851

Lol, it’s kitten near impossible to acquire exotic gear with WvW badges. I can’t imagine the nightmare that it would be to obtain ascended gear with WvW badges.

I take it your server doesn’t organize portal chains through the EB jumping puzzle? That’s an easy 20 badges/char in a few minutes each day. The drop rate of badges from enemy players should be higher, but it’s far from a nightmare to collect enough for a set of weapons.

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Posted by: Cullan.9645

Cullan.9645

I want it all now

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Posted by: NaughtyProwler.8653

NaughtyProwler.8653

Lol, it’s kitten near impossible to acquire exotic gear with WvW badges. I can’t imagine the nightmare that it would be to obtain ascended gear with WvW badges.

I take it your server doesn’t organize portal chains through the EB jumping puzzle? That’s an easy 20 badges/char in a few minutes each day. The drop rate of badges from enemy players should be higher, but it’s far from a nightmare to collect enough for a set of weapons.

Hooray, jumping content for PvP rewards. Greaaaaaat….

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Posted by: Waffler.1257

Waffler.1257

Lol, it’s kitten near impossible to acquire exotic gear with WvW badges. I can’t imagine the nightmare that it would be to obtain ascended gear with WvW badges.

I take it your server doesn’t organize portal chains through the EB jumping puzzle? That’s an easy 20 badges/char in a few minutes each day. The drop rate of badges from enemy players should be higher, but it’s far from a nightmare to collect enough for a set of weapons.

Nope, my server has plenty of people camping the JP all day long with more portals than you can shake a stick at. Although I usually get 10 badges per chest, so with five chars thats 50 a day. Can’t remember the exact price of one exotic, but I think it was around 750 badges. So 6 pieces of armor, main hand and off hand weapon, plus 5 pieces of jewelry will be 9750 badges. That’s 195 days. Yeah sure I get a lot more killing people, but with around 3200 WvW kills on my char I’ve acquired a total of around 600-700 badges including all the JP runs I’ve done. So yeah, I don’t have enough free time to make that happen, and will definitely not have enough to make ascended happen assuming they add it in.