Guild Wars 2

first i think that it sould be possible to salvage ascended itams, i do fractals runs each day, and i have many ascended ring that i have no use with them and i think i should have more option t do with it apart from sell to vendor for 4 silver…

second of all i must say that the world complite in WvW is the most frustrating thing in the game, for more then 3 month im wating for my server (gonners hold) to be blue and its never happening, i cant find a good reason why world complition should be so frustrating, its really make me want to quite the game.
why cant 1 borderland be enough for world complition? why the color change cant change each week in order? why i have to pay so much gems to move to another server just for map complition?

i will be happy to hear what people here think about it and spacially what a.net thinks…
thanks

It’s to get you to experience WvW.

They should move the map completion off WvW maps and put it on EotM (at least it’s more of a PvE environment the way it is currently played) or onto the newer map content.

However this will not happen, if ever, for a very, very, very long time.

GOSU.9574:

They should move the map completion off WvW maps and put it on EotM (at least it’s more of a PvE environment the way it is currently played) or onto the newer map content.

However this will not happen, if ever, for a very, very, very long time.

And all PvE items should be removed for WvW players.

Ayrilana.1396:

GOSU.9574:

They should move the map completion off WvW maps and put it on EotM (at least it’s more of a PvE environment the way it is currently played) or onto the newer map content.

However this will not happen, if ever, for a very, very, very long time.

And all PvE items should be removed for WvW players.

Including Food and Ascended, indeed.

Fortunately since Exotics are on WvW vendors, they will remain.

by the way there was 2 server changes from my first message and our server is not yet blue.

more then 3 months for 4 vistas and 4 points on intrest.

thanks arena net

Ayrilana.1396:

It’s to get you to experience WvW.

People who solely wants maps completion will not “experience” WvW.
We simply wait the map is ours and visit it as fast as possible and then leave back to pve/pvp. For us this is just time lost and not fun.

Map completion with WvW is complete non-sense, hence the number of posts about it scattered in different topics on the forum.
It is a recurring subject.

Yeah I know for WvWer who have to do pve to get their map completion it is even worse. This proves even more the “non-sense” aspect.

Imarion

I don’t want to “experience WvW”, this is the type of game where is it is possble to choose between PvE, PvP or both. I also do not want to “experience” another game I won’t give the name of or play that madbird game on my ipad.

I do hope that there isn’t a new EU law soon forcing me to visit the amazonian rain forest so I can see what it looks like.

Imarion.1650:

Yeah I know for WvWer who have to do pve to get their map completion it is even worse. This proves even more the “non-sense” aspect.

No, we wvwer usually know that we have to work for our goals.

Jana.6831:

Imarion.1650:

Yeah I know for WvWer who have to do pve to get their map completion it is even worse. This proves even more the “non-sense” aspect.

No, we wvwer usually know that we have to work for our goals.

This is a pretty insane statement to make, and it’s not related to the topic at all.
How are people who mostly do PvE just getting everything handed to them and not having to work towards any goals?

OT:
Agreed with the map completion. I don’t think WvW should count towards world completion and it’s the sole reason I haven’t done world completion more than once. It’s just silly, really.

Each time I drop on the forums and I read some threads, makes me happy that Anet doesn’t hire and doesn’t listen such people.

AlliedKhajiit.2794:

This is a pretty insane statement to make, and it’s not related to the topic at all.
How are people who mostly do PvE just getting everything handed to them and not having to work towards any goals?

OT:
Agreed with the map completion. I don’t think WvW should count towards world completion and it’s the sole reason I haven’t done world completion more than once. It’s just silly, really.

Well, I answered to your asumption that it would be worse for wvw players to do the PvE part of map completion – but guess what no wvw player ever complains about it. It’s only the odd argument someone throws in whenever another thread like this pops up (once every other week). And why don’t wvw-players complain? Because they’ve been PvE players themselves and because you have to work in wvw to achieve something the work isn’t just smashing 1 and hoping for bags, although people who don’t know real wvw think that’s how it works. So, we do the part we don’t like to get what we want to have – like me killing the Hyleks every half an hour for the past 3,5 months. In return I get an awesome fight for a T3 tower like the one I’m just coming from.

There are achievements for WvW (A Dolyak’s best friend, etc), PvP (Gladiator, etc), PvE (Tequatl, etc), Edge of the Mists, Dungeons, Celebrations and a few other seperate sections.

The only achievement I can see which overlaps is Exploration. I have been playing since before GW2 was released, Exploration requiring players who are PvE only to visit the WvW maps has been complained about almost since the beginning, it has not changed and I think never will.

We have The Mists. Within the Mists are Worlds, the World of Tyria is just one of those Worlds. WvW locations and Fractals are also in the Mists connected to Tyria through portals (Gates) in Lion’s Arch. The World of Tyria has Continents including one also called Tyria and another called Cryta (in GW1 that is where the Factions expansion happens). The continent of Tyria is where PvE takes place. I am happy to be corrected on any of that

The Exploration Achievement is described as an Achievement for the exploration of Tyria not the exploration of Guildwars 2 Maps. They either need to change the wording or change the required places to explore to include only Tyria.

Regarding the salvaging issue. I agree but would go further to include all Soulbound Items as well.

avocado.6048:

why i have to pay so much gems to move to another server just for map complition?

i will be happy to hear what people here think about it and spacially what a.net thinks…
thanks

Whoa seriously? You’ve paid money to change servers just for map completion?

I have three characters with 100% map completion and I’ve never had to change servers.

The biggest difference between you and I can only be patience, or the lack there of rather.

Save your money/gems/gold and just wait for your map to change. If it takes months, so be it, what’s the hurry?

Imarion.1650:

Ayrilana.1396:

It’s to get you to experience WvW.

People who solely wants maps completion will not “experience” WvW.
We simply wait the map is ours and visit it as fast as possible and then leave back to pve/pvp. For us this is just time lost and not fun.

Map completion with WvW is complete non-sense, hence the number of posts about it scattered in different topics on the forum.
It is a recurring subject.

Yeah I know for WvWer who have to do pve to get their map completion it is even worse. This proves even more the “non-sense” aspect.

Imarion

Far from the majority of players. There are many that actually do start playing WvW than wait to be carried. Many continue to play even after they have map competition. Just because people can just wait for things to be claimed by their server doesn’t dismiss the fact that this is a good way to introduce WvW to players.

An idea I just read about in another Forum. How about some kind of tag showing that a PvE player is running around a PvP map for the purposes of exploration? I have seen in another game, that all players can occupy the same map with an on/off toggle making it impossible for a PvP player to attack a PvE player.

The only reason against I can think of would be a PvP player spying on the opposing team but from what I know spying would not give any or much advantage. In fact it is easy for someone to change servers for the purposes of spying.

If the toggle could not be changed without leaving the map that would putoff PvP players from doing what some might think of as cheating such as a PvP player moving from one part of the map to another with it being impossible for that player to be attacked.

PvE players don’t mind going anywhere we just don’t want to be forced to PvP.

Jana.6831:

Well, I answered to your asumption that it would be worse for wvw players to do the PvE part of map completion – but guess what no wvw player ever complains about it. It’s only the odd argument someone throws in whenever another thread like this pops up (once every other week). And why don’t wvw-players complain? Because they’ve been PvE players themselves and because you have to work in wvw to achieve something the work isn’t just smashing 1 and hoping for bags, although people who don’t know real wvw think that’s how it works. So, we do the part we don’t like to get what we want to have – like me killing the Hyleks every half an hour for the past 3,5 months. In return I get an awesome fight for a T3 tower like the one I’m just coming from.

If you honestly believe all PvE is, is smashing 1 and hoping for loot bags, then I’m sorry, but that’s not at all how it works.

AlliedKhajiit.2794:

If you honestly believe all PvE is, is smashing 1 and hoping for loot bags, then I’m sorry, but that’s not at all how it works.

You obviously don’t get my point – so I leave it at that.

I’m a PvE player myself, I didn’t stumble into this game and started with WvW right away.
I actually started when doing map completion and met the best commander I’ve ever seen – and I’ve seen a lot since.

I have just been running around one of the WvW places. Did about 70% of 1 of 4 in just over an hour. I used the W key and Space bar, killed a few Skritt and nothing else. Including WvW is the stupidest idea I can think of. PvE involves a bit of work whereas WvW places are so easy to do it is ridiculous. It has nothing at all to do with exploring it is just about making all players who want to complete the achievement run mindlessly around maps.

Only challenge is going to be waiting for my server to own the bits I need to get to. Zzzzzz.