Guild Wars 2

joshc.3129:

Before anyone starts I’m not going on about they should make Ascended weapons and Legendary weapons easier to make.

It comes off as odd to me how legendary weapons which are the highest tier are in a way easier to make than ascended weapons the next tier down and over all except for the secondary stats have the same damage output. Take any ascended greatsword and then look at the 3 legendary greatswords. All have a damage output of 1,045 – 1,155.

Even if legendary weapons require a lot more farming, the items needed with the exception of a few can be drop by normal enemies or found out in the world (wood and ore). However with ascended weapons one of the unique item needed rely on it dropping from exotic champion loot bags. I have 2 lvl 80- characters and have done several high end champion events over the past few days and have yet had any Bloodstone Dust drop.

Just my two cents on the matter.

This is definately an interesting thought. Never occurred to me.

Last night I got my 73rd mystic clover. 4 more I believe. I have a few of the other parts already made. I really just need the precursor and im more than halfway there.

joshc.3129:

I have 2 lvl 80- characters and have done several high end champion events over the past few days and have yet had any Bloodstone Dust drop.

I’m not sure this is even possible. Every champ box (when opened on a level 80 character) comes with bloodstone dust drop (even if the numbers of dust just got nerfed). Every champion drops a guaranteed champ box.

The only exception are some of the champions that spawn during world boss events, and champion hallucinations from the new toxic patch.

it was obviously a troll post to poke fun at bloodstone dust..

A Legendary weapon can be acquired within 5 minutes on a level1 character without doing even a single in-game event.

An Ascended weapon requires 500 Dragonite ores and 500 Empyreal Fragments to craft, which requires being level80 and usually take several hours to gather. You may also get lucky and have it drop, but that also requires you to be level80(since Ascended mats do not drop until then), participate in certain events(including so little as opening a chest in Queensdale) and be extremely lucky.

Therefore, it is harder to get an Ascended Weapon than a Legendary Weapon on Average, considering if we use the shortest route that guarantees obtaining the items.

Bloodstone Dust has little to do with it, although it also requires being level80 to obtain, something a Legendary does not.

I’m confused. The moderator deleted the original post, but not the thread, leaving a quoted version of the original post?

Also, at turtle, I’m assuming you meant you buy gems to turn into gold to buy a legendary off the TP.

1$=4g. Depending on what legendary you want, I think most are going for 2000g-ish. So you’re looking at spending $500 for a legendary. Which I think getting $500 is harder than getting an ascended weapon, but that’s just my opinion.

Ethics.4519:

I’m confused. The moderator deleted the original post, but not the thread, leaving a quoted version of the original post?

Also, at turtle, I’m assuming you meant you buy gems to turn into gold to buy a legendary off the TP.

1$=4g. Depending on what legendary you want, I think most are going for 2000g-ish. So you’re looking at spending $500 for a legendary. Which I think getting $500 is harder than getting an ascended weapon, but that’s just my opinion.

There are certain people who have received their Legendaries through the mail as a “gift”. Nobody mentioned $500 for a Legendary or Gems>Gold, although that might be an option which is “as effective”. At least it is true that it would also take 5 minutes. There is a rumor that said people who received their Legendary by mail earned it by making a “donation” themselves to a certain cause whose sponsor is rumored to be in China. Of course, this is just a rumor.

I am not allowed to mention other player by names, but I know at least 1 person who received their Legendary as a “gift” by mail.

Turtle Dragon.9241:

Ethics.4519:

I’m confused. The moderator deleted the original post, but not the thread, leaving a quoted version of the original post?

Also, at turtle, I’m assuming you meant you buy gems to turn into gold to buy a legendary off the TP.

1$=4g. Depending on what legendary you want, I think most are going for 2000g-ish. So you’re looking at spending $500 for a legendary. Which I think getting $500 is harder than getting an ascended weapon, but that’s just my opinion.

There are certain people who have received their Legendaries through the mail as a “gift”. Nobody mentioned $500 for a Legendary or Gems>Gold, although that might be an option which is “as effective”. At least it is true that it would also take 5 minutes. There is a rumor that said people who received their Legendary by mail earned it by making a “donation” themselves to a certain cause whose sponsor is rumored to be in China. Of course, this is just a rumor.

I am not allowed to mention other player by names, but I know at least 1 person who received their Legendary as a “gift” by mail.

That’s still along the lines of buying with real money. On top of that, it’s obviously against the TOS so shouldn’t even hold place in this conversation

Ethics.4519:

Turtle Dragon.9241:

Ethics.4519:

I’m confused. The moderator deleted the original post, but not the thread, leaving a quoted version of the original post?

Also, at turtle, I’m assuming you meant you buy gems to turn into gold to buy a legendary off the TP.

1$=4g. Depending on what legendary you want, I think most are going for 2000g-ish. So you’re looking at spending $500 for a legendary. Which I think getting $500 is harder than getting an ascended weapon, but that’s just my opinion.

There are certain people who have received their Legendaries through the mail as a “gift”. Nobody mentioned $500 for a Legendary or Gems>Gold, although that might be an option which is “as effective”. At least it is true that it would also take 5 minutes. There is a rumor that said people who received their Legendary by mail earned it by making a “donation” themselves to a certain cause whose sponsor is rumored to be in China. Of course, this is just a rumor.

I am not allowed to mention other player by names, but I know at least 1 person who received their Legendary as a “gift” by mail.

That’s still along the lines of buying with real money. On top of that, it’s obviously against the TOS so shouldn’t even hold place in this conversation

I do not see anything that I might have said that is against the ToS. I do not see the relation between receiving a Legendary as a “gift” by mail, and buying anything with real money.

There could possibly be people who are benevolently watching which GW2 player donates to their good cause, and rewarding them with Legendaries.

As it stands, it is still true a Legendary can be acquired by a level1 in 5 minutes, be it with Method1 or 2.

I strongly disagree here. In roughly the same hour per hour playtime timeframe it took me to obtain 250 silver doubloons for my jug, I have leveled my artifice to 500 and made 5 staffs, 2 for my main and 1 for each of my staff using alts. And thats just the doubloons, what about the rest ?

I think OPs argument is limited to OP and perhaps those people that have the same playstyle, but not to general population. O.P. is in wrong locations, going after wrong targets, not maximizing time / component usage.

Haha…you’re funny I just crafted ascended Greatsword and it was MUUUCH easier to do than go on Legendary journey because its BORING and UNPROMISING as prices usually go up up and UP

This is really no contest for time investment.

If you aren’t buying gold, or buying gems and then converting to gold – the legendary takes a lot longer to make, it isn’t remotely close from a time investment perspective. Even just farming then gold to buy it off the TP would take a lot longer.

Silly thread …

zeetee.1537:

This is really no contest for time investment.

If you aren’t buying gold, or buying gems and then converting to gold – the legendary takes a lot longer to make, it isn’t remotely close from a time investment perspective. Even just farming then gold to buy it off the TP would take a lot longer.

Silly thread …

Even sillier that is still around when the original post has already been deleted.

Ethics.4519:

Turtle Dragon.9241:

Ethics.4519:

I’m confused. The moderator deleted the original post, but not the thread, leaving a quoted version of the original post?

Also, at turtle, I’m assuming you meant you buy gems to turn into gold to buy a legendary off the TP.

1$=4g. Depending on what legendary you want, I think most are going for 2000g-ish. So you’re looking at spending $500 for a legendary. Which I think getting $500 is harder than getting an ascended weapon, but that’s just my opinion.

There are certain people who have received their Legendaries through the mail as a “gift”. Nobody mentioned $500 for a Legendary or Gems>Gold, although that might be an option which is “as effective”. At least it is true that it would also take 5 minutes. There is a rumor that said people who received their Legendary by mail earned it by making a “donation” themselves to a certain cause whose sponsor is rumored to be in China. Of course, this is just a rumor.

I am not allowed to mention other player by names, but I know at least 1 person who received their Legendary as a “gift” by mail.

That’s still along the lines of buying with real money. On top of that, it’s obviously against the TOS so shouldn’t even hold place in this conversation

Nah, it just proves that ArenaNet’s Cash-to-Gems-to-Gold ratio can’t compete with the prices offered by gold farmers.
To be honest, I thought one of the main reasons they introduced the ability to effectively buy gold with cash was to stamp out gold farmers.
Turns out that ArenaNet are too stubborn and proud to get into undermining the gold farmers by making gold cheap to buy through official channels.
Another symptom of what happens when your focus is more about the in-game economy rather than the game itself.

It.. Kinda makes sense? I would say legendaries are a safer and more practical way to go, because once you get it, you don’t need anything else. But it requires mor effort too. With ascended though they’re subjective to the same rules as exotics so level caps and any additional gear tiers ANet may add in the future kinda kills off the long term benefit in having an ascended at the moment if you want to think of it from that angle.

Also principally legendaries are at least purchasable. Ascended aren’t purchasable at all, and are tedious and costly.