My question is on getting banned if i buy 1 more account to fund my current account?
What i mean by that is can i buy 2 gw2 accounts and then run bosses on both, but give the loot and drops all to 1 account without getting banned? or is there something in the ToS that states that i cannot do that?
We have no objections to this, as long as both accounts are used by you and you’re not, say, botting with the one. Clearly, account sharing is a really bad idea, and botting is strictly prohibited and will bring the wrath of Dhuum down upon your head. Well, figuratively speaking, anyway. I don’t sense you’re intending either of those things, though, and a lot of players have a secondary account they use legitimately in order to send benefits to their main.
Thanks for the prompt response, i bought gw2 for myself and my brother and he doesnt play anymore. so i own and control that account too, so i just wanted to do world bosses. There will be no botting or any account sharing. Thanks everybody
Unfortunately, as soon as you said “and my brother”, well… you just admitted to the illegitimate past use of that account.
Is that the distinct sound of Dhuum’s sharpening stone I hear?
It’s probably just the wind; account sharing is a bad idea only because what actions are taken against an account for what one person does/says won’t be repealed when the other person with access wants to protest.
Not to mention the whole “my brother cleaned out my account” thing.
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Unfortunately, as soon as you said “and my brother”, well… you just admitted to the illegitimate past use of that account.
Is that the distinct sound of Dhuum’s sharpening stone I hear?
Please leave the replying to people who bother to read what they are replying to:
i bought gw2 for myself and my brother and he doesnt play anymore. so i own and control that account too, so i just wanted to do world bosses. There will be no botting or any account sharing.
There’s no way in the kitty universe that ANet will make an issue of two accounts being used in the same household/ip as long as botting is not an issue.
Unfortunately, as soon as you said “and my brother”, well… you just admitted to the illegitimate past use of that account.
Is that the distinct sound of Dhuum’s sharpening stone I hear?
Well not necessarily, if he bought the account, and had it registered under his name for his brother, then him, and not the brother is the legitimate owner of the account. Also, account sharing is not exactly illegal, it’s a really bad idea, because if the person you are sharing with decides to delete everything, there is nothing ANET can do about it when the other member objects. (See “evil little brother effect”).
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Well, it is actually against the rules of the ToS/UA.
2. (f) (iv) sell, sub-license, rent, lease, grant a security interest in, borrow, lend, loan, network or engage in any activity that could in any way transfer or provide others access to any Service, Content, Software, or parts thereof, including but not limited to any serial code number, access key or the like.
Unfortunately, as soon as you said “and my brother”, well… you just admitted to the illegitimate past use of that account.
Is that the distinct sound of Dhuum’s sharpening stone I hear?
Well not necessarily, if he bought the account, and had it registered under his name for his brother, then him, and not the brother is the legitimate owner of the account. Also, account sharing is not exactly illegal, it’s a really bad idea, because if the person you are sharing with decides to delete everything, there is nothing ANET can do about it when the other member objects. (See “evil little brother effect”).
It’s quite NOT illegal.
But it IS against the contract you agreed to with Anet.
Well, it is actually against the rules of the ToS/UA.
2. (f) (iv) sell, sub-license, rent, lease, grant a security interest in, borrow, lend, loan, network or engage in any activity that could in any way transfer or provide others access to any Service, Content, Software, or parts thereof, including but not limited to any serial code number, access key or the like.
9. (b) Each Account may only be used by one person .
ANet is not going to declare war on families who own one or two or more accounts for family members to play together on from the same IP unless there’s something more nefarious going on. Additionally, it frees up ANet from having to sort out issues of “deleted” or “stolen” account items if such a usage occurs because it is a technical violation.
Jay walking, not likely to get you in trouble unless you cause, or almost cause, a traffic accident.
“Since the May 26, 2010 update, Dhuum appears in-game whenever an account is suspended or terminated and kills the character using either Impending Dhuum or Vengeance is Ours.”
If they live in the same household, I don’t see why they can’t share the same account. Just my personal opinion.
Because selling accounts is one of two ways ArenaNet makes money.
Also, account share drama. They don’t want to waste CS time on that.
The number of people that would likely qualify as living under the same household is low enough to be inconsequential. This is much different that using your friend in real life. or you know only online, from using your account.
Again, this is my opinion. I’m not debating whether they should or should not change the rules as I can potentially see this thread eventually moving towards that direction. I just wanted to make that disclaimer.
“Since the May 26, 2010 update, Dhuum appears in-game whenever an account is suspended or terminated and kills the character using either Impending Dhuum or Vengeance is Ours.”
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Grenth usurped him.
And is apparently not an account termination tool , but rather seems to have taken an interest in run of the mill finishers.
My good sir.
If you missed my implication.
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Unfortunately, as soon as you said “and my brother”, well… you just admitted to the illegitimate past use of that account.
Is that the distinct sound of Dhuum’s sharpening stone I hear?
Please leave the replying to people who bother to read what they are replying to:
i bought gw2 for myself and my brother and he doesnt play anymore. so i own and control that account too, so i just wanted to do world bosses. There will be no botting or any account sharing.
There’s no way in the kitty universe that ANet will make an issue of two accounts being used in the same household/ip as long as botting is not an issue.
Truly am sorry for upsetting you by stating the facts. The fact is it is against the rules to share an account for any reason(please see the exact quote of the clause above). Justifying the illegitimate use is surely your prerogative but it does not make it in any way right.
I read the situation as: he bought 2 accounts, one for him, one for his brother. now his brother isn’t playing, so he has 2 accounts. it’s not just one account he was sharing.
Well, it is actually against the rules of the ToS/UA.
2. (f) (iv) sell, sub-license, rent, lease, grant a security interest in, borrow, lend, loan, network or engage in any activity that could in any way transfer or provide others access to any Service, Content, Software, or parts thereof, including but not limited to any serial code number, access key or the like.
Yalora, I think you’re misunderstanding the OP. I understand him to say that he bought an account for himself and another for his brother. And that his brother doesn’t play any more, and let him have that second account back. Two separate accounts, one changed hands twice without being sold.(given, given back)
<oops, Mystic beat me with the same answer>
Unfortunately, as soon as you said “and my brother”, well… you just admitted to the illegitimate past use of that account.
Is that the distinct sound of Dhuum’s sharpening stone I hear?
Please leave the replying to people who bother to read what they are replying to:
i bought gw2 for myself and my brother and he doesnt play anymore. so i own and control that account too, so i just wanted to do world bosses. There will be no botting or any account sharing.
There’s no way in the kitty universe that ANet will make an issue of two accounts being used in the same household/ip as long as botting is not an issue.
Truly am sorry for upsetting you by stating the facts. The fact is it is against the rules to share an account for any reason(please see the exact quote of the clause above). Justifying the illegitimate use is surely your prerogative but it does not make it in any way right.
Reality trumps legalese in such matters. You are essentially are pointing out that jay-walking is “against the rules” and I simply state that such a rule is seldom enforced/prosecuted unless there are extenuating or other contributing (yet often) arbitrary circumstances.
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ANet would hurt itself if it decided to become a NOT-zee over such infractions. Households and families would get banned…noses cut off to spite the face, yada yada.
No, ANet won’t come out and encourage such an activity, in the same way it will never endorse SweetFX or other third party software usage.
Discretion is involved, it’s the wide gulf of difference between a cop letting a jay walker off with a friendly warning and shooting the transgressor dead.
Unfortunately, as soon as you said “and my brother”, well… you just admitted to the illegitimate past use of that account.
Is that the distinct sound of Dhuum’s sharpening stone I hear?
Please leave the replying to people who bother to read what they are replying to:
i bought gw2 for myself and my brother and he doesnt play anymore. so i own and control that account too, so i just wanted to do world bosses. There will be no botting or any account sharing.
There’s no way in the kitty universe that ANet will make an issue of two accounts being used in the same household/ip as long as botting is not an issue.
Truly am sorry for upsetting you by stating the facts. The fact is it is against the rules to share an account for any reason(please see the exact quote of the clause above). Justifying the illegitimate use is surely your prerogative but it does not make it in any way right.
He bought the account for his brother (who may be underage, we don’t know any details). He already owns the account, since he bought it. His brother does not play. It is not “shared” if only one person uses an account.
In any case, all this ping-ponging of opinions is getting no one anywhere. I guess it’s nice of us to keep bumping the thread so OP can get an official reply.
Edit: on another note, there seems to be some misunderstanding about “same IPs”. I play with my husband, so obviously we have the same IP. Anet is not going to ban us just because we live in the same house, since we have 2 accounts (1 each) like the OP.
I think it’s amusing that we are still discussing this after the dev response said that this was acceptable. Of course, the comment about the brother was after that statement, I still believe that the devs statement on the matter still holds true, as only one person is using said account, regardless if that person is the one who registered it. It doesn’t say anywhere that only the registered user can use the account. A similar situation would be a parent buying a copy for their kid. The kid doesn’t have an email, and thus cannot register the game. So the parent registers it for them, but only the kid plays on that account. Now according to some, this would be against the ToS, and thus illegal, and bannable.
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It’s the chain I beat you with until you
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I think it’s amusing that we are still discussing this after the dev response said that this was acceptable. Of course, the comment about the brother was after that statement, I still believe that the devs statement on the matter still holds true, as only one person is using said account, regardless if that person is the one who registered it. It doesn’t say anywhere that only the registered user can use the account. A similar situation would be a parent buying a copy for their kid. The kid doesn’t have an email, and thus cannot register the game. So the parent registers it for them, but only the kid plays on that account. Now according to some, this would be against the ToS, and thus illegal, and bannable.
You are right, I involved myself because it’s a pet peeve of mine with the modern world: people who advocate mechanical absolutes on matters best left to human understanding and judgement.
As I understand it the main reason Anet don’t allow account sharing is so that they don’t have to provide customer support for issues created as a result and don’t have to take shared accounts into consideration when making changes.
For example if you and your sister share an account and she takes all the gold you were saving for a precursor and spends it on crafting ascended gear for her character you can’t contact support and ask them to give you the gold back. You were breaking the EULA by sharing the account, so they are under no obligation to help you out.
Similarly when the wallet was introduced and gold and karma became shared by all characters instead of each character having their own pool some people came to the forum to complain that it was a major problem for them because their kids/siblings or whoever shared the account and now they couldn’t keep track of whose gold was whose. But for most people it was an improvement and Anet had no obligation to consider those shared accounts so they change stayed.
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if you plan to run 2 gaming pcs at a time raises the question for me if it might be just cheaper regarding power usage and save time to buy gems and convert them to gold.
how long you plan to farm each week , bow much loot will you gain in that time and how much loot do you need at all? what does it cost to run the pcs during that time?
if you plan to run 2 gaming pcs at a time raises the question for me if it might be just cheaper regarding power usage and save time to buy gems and convert them to gold.
how long you plan to farm each week , bow much loot will you gain in that time and how much loot do you need at all? what does it cost to run the pcs during that time?
Well he doesn’t really need to run 2 PCs at the same time. He should just be able to use the alternate log in info on the same client, run the bosses, send a mail, log out, then in again with the other account. He will only be using one account at a time, not multiboxing (which would not be a good idea) or running a seperate machine to do so.
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Do not make alternate forum accounts. Users are permitted one account per person. Alternate accounts will be terminated, and users involved in creating alternate accounts will be subject to discipline at the discretion of the moderator staff.
Do not make alternate forum accounts. Users are permitted one account per person. Alternate accounts will be terminated, and users involved in creating alternate accounts will be subject to discipline at the discretion of the moderator staff.
Since you can’t link two GW2 accounts, the OP now has two forum accounts.
FORUM accounts. Which are accounts you use to post on the forum with, not play the game with. There is no rule against owning more than one account and playing the game with them.
As Gaile said We have no objections to this, as long as both accounts are used by you and you’re not, say, botting with the one. Clearly, account sharing is a really bad idea, and botting is strictly prohibited and will bring the wrath of Dhuum down upon your head. Well, figuratively speaking, anyway. I don’t sense you’re intending either of those things, though, and a lot of players have a secondary account they use legitimately in order to send benefits to their main.
Zomg this is getting ridicuslous. Why would such action be bannable. Guys, get a grip! Why are so many people intimidated and fear that every action may be bannable.
Zomg this is getting ridicuslous. Why would such action be bannable. Guys, get a grip! Why are so many people intimidated and fear that every action may be bannable.
I remember reading about a good farming site. I spoke to a friend about it and we were going to go there. Next day I read that a bunch of people got banned for farming at that site.
Getting that close to getting banned or reading about others getting banned will make you cautious.
I have a question too… Can I buy 3k gold on one account send it to another account. Will you ban both accounts or just the one that bought gold. Because I got in game message today that some gold sellers are giving discount in buying gold….
I don’t sense you’re intending either of those things, though, and a lot of players have a secondary account they use legitimately in order to send benefits to their main.