Three days. I’ve being trying to beat that kitten norn for three effing days. I’ve tried every strategy I could find, I’ve tried wasting all my gold on healing power gear to buff the heal I get from water, and I’ve tried just waiting for the random luck RNG BS that this whole mini-game is built around to win. Nothing. Oh I’ve been close, but when he gets down to about 10% health he catches my every bluff, blocks my every heal, and spams his signature, making it literally impossible to win.
Who came up with this crap? And this is after he’s been nerfed?
I’m told that regeneration boosters will help, but I really don’t want to think that Arena Net has gone pay-to-win. I mean after all, those boosters are pretty much only available through the cash shop by way of Black Lion keys. I guess you could, in theory, get them from dailies, or get the keys from dailies, but then I’ve been doing my daily since they added rewards for them and gotten exactly zero regeneration boosters or keys, so I kind of doubt the truthfulness of that.
Food and regeneration boaster don’t work anymore (at least 15 mins ago when I tried). It seems that is only thing Anet decided to fix.
I agree with the op regarding to Belcher. I don’t mind difficult but I hate games that are totally depended on luck to win. It make me rage so bad that I have to stop or I may break another keyboard.
For people who say there is a pattern. they are seeing pattern on things that is random. Much like seeing the face of Jesus on the pizza you just ordered. I read most of the guides on the net and none seems to work. The only thing seems to work will be pure luck and persistence. Skills seems to have nothing to do with it.
Belcher is obvious designed for people with no skills and a lot of time on their hands.
RNGing belcher bluff will not work. There are strategies listed online for all of these…
Adnul is quite hard to defeat due to his special move which prevent you from using Bluff for three rounds. Additionally, Adnul love to use his Belch on your heals. It may take you quite a few attempts to defeat him.
The signature move best used against him is Boast from Caiwyn. Use this skill when you are at very low health and forced to drink due to Adnul’s buff.
Watch for his buff and try to get in Bluffs between his buffs to prevent taking damage from drinking.
I did him in my 7th try I believe, basically bluff like crazy when you can, dont use your other abilities and save those for when you cant bluff and then as specified when you have to drink and are on low health use the Boast skill first.
RNGing belcher bluff will not work. There are strategies listed online for all of these…
Adnul is quite hard to defeat due to his special move which prevent you from using Bluff for three rounds. Additionally, Adnul love to use his Belch on your heals. It may take you quite a few attempts to defeat him.
The signature move best used against him is Boast from Caiwyn. Use this skill when you are at very low health and forced to drink due to Adnul’s buff.
Watch for his buff and try to get in Bluffs between his buffs to prevent taking damage from drinking.
I did him in my 7th try I believe, basically bluff like crazy when you can, dont use your other abilities and save those for when you cant bluff and then as specified when you have to drink and are on low health use the Boast skill first.
And what do you do if he doesn’t stop using is buff? At all? Those “strategies” are all reactionary and totally dependent on the NPC “deciding” to let them work. Sometimes the norn will use his buff every now and again, sometimes he uses it nearly every time. Sometimes he waits until he is at about half health to use it, sometimes he starts right away. There is no pattern, there is no strategy. There is only a tactic that occasionally works because the RNG is in your favor.
RNGing belcher bluff will not work. There are strategies listed online for all of these…
Adnul is quite hard to defeat due to his special move which prevent you from using Bluff for three rounds. Additionally, Adnul love to use his Belch on your heals. It may take you quite a few attempts to defeat him.
The signature move best used against him is Boast from Caiwyn. Use this skill when you are at very low health and forced to drink due to Adnul’s buff.
Watch for his buff and try to get in Bluffs between his buffs to prevent taking damage from drinking.
I did him in my 7th try I believe, basically bluff like crazy when you can, dont use your other abilities and save those for when you cant bluff and then as specified when you have to drink and are on low health use the Boast skill first.
I got there after a straight hour of trying. Some naughty words were expleted on the road to success mind!
There is some strategy as stated above, but it is tempered by also needing luck sadly.
Bluff when as much as you can get away with, keep your reduced damage buff handy and time your belches so you don’t get caught with only “drink” off cooldown. Sounds easy..it of course isn’t and you need to hope you get him using the right skills against you when you need it.
Very annoying, was glad when it was done!!!! Kudos for sticking it out for 3 days…I’d have caved or broken my keyboard!
Tip #1: Keep forfeiting the match until both of you belch at the start.
Tip #2: Bluff less than 2 seconds before you need to drink.
Tip #3: Belch before healing halfway through.
Tip #4: Boast is used no less than ~2k hp if you can heal. ~2.8k if heal is on cd.
422223122234223211431142322Boast13411341 Look for the patterns and adjust to rng.
I guess luck /RNG is on your side. I been doing it for like 3hrs and no luck.
Never claimed it was my strategy tho, and yes I maybe should have mentioned Dulfy but on the other hand that is the major online source for GW2 so one could almost say that was inferred.
Also I have seen similar content in other strategies not from Dulfy, now if Dulfy was the original source or not I have no idea.
But that said yes maybe I should have pointed to the Dulfy belching achievement guide as a reference.
I beat him, using my own strategy, which is pretty much just common sense any way and not particularly different from Dulfy’s.
Bluff whenever you can.
Heal when you can if you need to.
If your heal and your belch are both available and you don’t need to heal, use the belch first. If you do need to heal, always use the heal before the belch, and follow immediately with the belch (since you’ll only have to bluff twice then to get your heal).
Needless to say never drink.
I don’t use my elite until I’m under 6000 points.
It took me ages, doing the same strategy over and over again to win. I almost won several times and got him down to just about zero once, but it still took me hours.
It is based on luck, as well as knowing that to do. But once you do the strategy you need luck to beat him.
Thankfully I don’t need to beat him. I got my sixteen achievements for the meta and the new mining node without that one. So that norn can kiss my….never mind.
Regardless, I still think something needs to be done about this mini-game. It is planned to be a new fixture in the world, and frankly that just won’t do considering how buggy and unbalanced it is.
I adored the OP’s opinion: “I can’t win so it’s not fun”. My guildies and I won the norn after a few tries each so I’ll make a thread “Belcher’s Bluff; too easy to be fun”.
Step two: level to 80 and get all the skill points to open Spirit of Nature
Step three: cast spirit of nature before the match starts
Is this cheating? I don’t think so. I am a ranger extraordinaire. Regeneration is in my blood. That spirit elite called itself because it knew I was in trouble. That Norn I faced? He rolled warrior. That was HIS mistake, not mine!
Tin Foil Hat Hearer »—> Ranger Extraordinaire »—> “Be like water…”
I did the bluff before with a food buff. After reading this I did it again. Not a huge difference now, the human was actually more of a problem than the norn. It is possible. If you are frustrated leave it and come back. You just can’t learn or enjoy when you are frustrated.
it is very frustrating, but the Belcher´s bluff achievements section gives you a big amount of points on the other hand. Seems like a fair trade. That dude really had me banging my head on my desk. Take a break, come back with a more relaxed mind. The other grandmasters were so easy to beat I only bothered to understand the strategy of this game (yes, there is quite some luck involved with Adnul, I admit that) when I ran into the norn brick wall. Give it some more tries here and there, stop when you are too frustrated. Eventually, you will beat him.
It took me….oh gosh….well over an hour…probably closer to 2, to beat that norn. I did use ‘boast’ between 3k and 4k hp (I think).
I watched Dulfy’s vid for him, and basically copied her keystrokes. If he leads with his belch, it works pretty well. If he leads with anything else….yeah, I lose every time, no matter what I try.
…Side note, I never thought to use food in any of my games, but I still managed to beat them all. =)
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
Indeed, even though I dislike jumping puzzles, give one over this annoying game. I have no clue of what is going on. I have read info, watched dulfy’s vid’s, but I just don’t get how it works. This mini game is the pits.
