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Posted by: Max Lexandre.6279

Max Lexandre.6279

Heya there.

Well, we usually notice this “stealth” changes that come on patch that actually limits what we can do, when we loose money due them.

I have spent 70g in 6 runes to my Armor Set time ago, before the patch, but already decided that i would get armor with new stats and transmute them.

After this patch i wasn’t scared at all, i just said “Well i will just use Black Lion to salvage and get the rune”. God i was wrong, we can’t recover any rune from any armor piece were you already used Wardrobe in.

Because the transmuted status, the only thing you can do with Armor and the runes, is to Delete them, as exotic is soulbound, you can’t salvage, you can’t sell and the upgrade extractor is more expensive than any rune on this game. I had not only to buy the new Armors again, buy 70g of runes again and put my armor pieces at the bank watching how useless they have turned.

So Beware, do not use wardrobe at your armor, unless you’re 100% Certain those are the ones you want, you will also loose the runes once you upgrade to ascended anyway…

I said “Nerf” at title because, before the patch, you could transmute not only the skin but the stats and the runes, so we have lost functionality.
How fantastic is the wardrobe now?

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

This has been discussed at length in the main wardrobe thread. Not sure why a new thread was needed, but if you are concerned, I’d post there since that is the feedback thread that matter.

For the record, whilst I understand the frustration, I personally still prefer the wardrobe as it is than what we had before.

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Posted by: Max Lexandre.6279

Max Lexandre.6279

This has been discussed at length in the main wardrobe thread. Not sure why a new thread was needed, but if you are concerned, I’d post there since that is the feedback thread that matter.

For the record, whilst I understand the frustration, I personally still prefer the wardrobe as it is than what we had before.

I had no idea this was going to happen, that transmuted things would loose any change of salvage, that’s why i wasn’t scared when i knew i could not transmute like before.

So the only option is to accept this lost and the functionality we had with the old transmute on this aspect?

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

As it stands only the gem store item which removes runes from armour and weapons is your option.

And adding your opinion to the weight of other in the main thread and hope changes are made
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Game-Updates-Wardrobe-Transmutation-Outfits/first

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Posted by: phys.7689

phys.7689

wait i didnt know this, you cant get any rune back from any item you apply a skin to? You used to be able to salvage transmuted gears.

Why would they do this exactly?

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

I believe it depends where the armour came from. I think Karma bought gear can’t be salvaged. Happily stand corrected though.

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Posted by: Max Lexandre.6279

Max Lexandre.6279

I believe it depends where the armour came from. I think Karma bought gear can’t be salvaged. Happily stand corrected though.

Some it’s karma, other it’s dungeon pieces, but both are not salvageable. I feel outraged, can i send ticket about it?

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

I believe it depends where the armour came from. I think Karma bought gear can’t be salvaged. Happily stand corrected though.

Some it’s karma, other it’s dungeon pieces, but both are not salvageable. I feel outraged, can i send ticket about it?

They weren’t salvageable before the patch though were they?

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Posted by: MauricioCezar.2673

MauricioCezar.2673

Karma, Badges, and Dungeon armor NEVER, EVER could be salvaged.

Has nothing to do with wardrobe, is the way those particular sets works to don’t make ppl farm and transform those currencys into gold.

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Posted by: Brother Grimm.5176

Brother Grimm.5176

Some it’s karma, other it’s dungeon pieces, but both are not salvageable. I feel outraged, can i send ticket about it?

You do know the PATCH did not change what you are complaining about. You could NEVER remove those runes (via salvaging) pre-patch and you not knowing that is really not Anet’s fault.

NOW the fact that you can no longer transmute the runes onto another armor set post patch is 100% due to the patch and you can be outraged about that all you want (but I’m not sure being a nasty customer is the way to go here, but go for it if it makes you feel better).

Submitting a ticket with Support is likely a waste of time as the patch is working as intended (not bugged in this area) and they can’t do anything about your situation in any event.

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Posted by: Asmodeus.5782

Asmodeus.5782

Would be enough to make them salvage into upgrades only, right?

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Posted by: FriskiestSpoon.6289

FriskiestSpoon.6289

Karma, Badges, and Dungeon armor NEVER, EVER could be salvaged.

Has nothing to do with wardrobe, is the way those particular sets works to don’t make ppl farm and transform those currencys into gold.

Dungeon armor can’t be salvaged… Lol what? Salvaging dungeon armor is how I get all my ectos.

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Posted by: goldenwing.8473

goldenwing.8473

Karma and WvW armor cannot be salvaged.

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Posted by: Berelious.3290

Berelious.3290

As an experiment based on this thread I purchased a piece of exotic armor, an exotic weapon, and a piece of dungeon armor, transmuted all three, then tried salvaging all three with a black lion salvage kit. In doing so I got a superior rune of the lich, a superior rune of the monk, a superior sigil of intelligence, a dire orichalcum imbued inscription, 4 ecto, 6 globs of dark matter, 1 elder wood log, and 1 soldier’s intricate gossamer insignia. Based on these results I believe I can safely surmise that the base armor that you are trying to salvage was probably obtained by karma, and therefore unsalvagable to begin with.

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Posted by: Psychol.5783

Psychol.5783

Honestly I’m suprised why runes and sigils are still so “cheap” but give it time and you won’t see these prices again when new players are coming and old will want to change gear. You’re basicaly forced to speculate or lose money because of these changes. 1 Upgrade extractor is ~25g what’s the point if you can sell gems and be able to buy most expensive rune and sigil except generosity and have still some gold left.

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Posted by: blakdoxa.7520

blakdoxa.7520

This has been discussed at length in the main wardrobe thread. Not sure why a new thread was needed, but if you are concerned, I’d post there since that is the feedback thread that matter.

For the record, whilst I understand the frustration, I personally still prefer the wardrobe as it is than what we had before.

I didn’t know about this till today.
Another disappoint….

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Posted by: Khal Drogo.9631

Khal Drogo.9631

Don’t think there are any runes worth extracting. So be careful when u apply expensive runes on to ascended armor.

As for exo unsalvagable armor, you could always mystic forge them.

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Posted by: Berelious.3290

Berelious.3290

This has been discussed at length in the main wardrobe thread. Not sure why a new thread was needed, but if you are concerned, I’d post there since that is the feedback thread that matter.

For the record, whilst I understand the frustration, I personally still prefer the wardrobe as it is than what we had before.

I didn’t know about this till today.
Another disappoint….

Nothing to be disappointed over, runes and sigils are still salvageable from transmuted armor and weapons. Most likely the base of his armor was purchased with Karma or badges and he just forgot. Read my earlier post.

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Posted by: clint.5681

clint.5681

i didnt know about it til this thread, thanks for the warning.

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Posted by: Max Lexandre.6279

Max Lexandre.6279

Wait then, i am pretty sure i could salvage Dungeon Armor Sets. O_o
Wasn’t even aware about karma because i transmuted before with a non-karma armor for the visual.

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Posted by: Orpheal.8263

Orpheal.8263

Karma, Badges, and Dungeon armor NEVER, EVER could be salvaged.

Has nothing to do with wardrobe, is the way those particular sets works to don’t make ppl farm and transform those currencys into gold.

This is basically just completely wrong and just shows only, that you haven’t been playing this game for very long. At least not before the point, when Anet introduced Achievement Point reward System, because thats a system, that wasn’t in the game from begin on you know …
Why do I mention this?

Its simple.. at the time, when no achievement point rewards existed, at this time was all karma gear and I guess also too badge gear SALVAGEABLE.
But Anet removed that and put also later achievement point caps onto several unendless repeatable achievements, like that one for salvaging stuff, because there existed naturally some super uber ultra mega rich TP flipping players, which used that instantly out to push in no time their achievement points up sky rocketing with them through the roof reaching nearly like 25k points already, before anet changed things and that just after a short while after the introduction of the system, when all other people mostly had just likely half of that amount of AP so far max

What did these insane rich people do to get that many AP in so short time?
They literally bought tons of salvage kits and cleaned the TP from hundreds of thousands of cheap but salvageable things and what comes also into mind naturally is, they used their millions of karma to buy cheap beginner items to salvage them at days, when that was doable.

Both together gave that people so much stuff to salvage, that they could easily push their AP up through that then, when the salvage achievement was unlimited in rewarding AP and not capped at just 250 AP max to achieve.
Then they introduced the reward system for AP, capped the unendless repeatable achievements, to which also the oen for dungeons and activities count and capped their maximum receivable AP and those peopel who made all the AP with this, lost all their AP as far as I know and kept just those, that the new caps gave for them

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Posted by: Nilkemia.8507

Nilkemia.8507

Your armor is probably Exotic Karma armor (Orr temples), or WvW Badge armor, neither of which can be salvaged. Also, white items bought from a weaponsmith/armorsmith vendor cannot be salvaged either.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

So is the upgrade extractor the only way to get runes off of ascended armor? (Ascended gear isn’t salvageable, right?)

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Posted by: MauricioCezar.2673

MauricioCezar.2673

Yes, I’ve said wrong about dungeon armos, sorry for the wrong info. (Just remembered that even myself used to farm ectos from CoF p1, but whatever). Either way, what I was trying to say is : THIS HAVE NOTHING TO DO wth wardrobe.

Its only because you have some sort of Unsalvageable gear (I.E. WxW Sets, Karma sets, and Chest loots from Fotm).