Guild Wars 2

Has anyone got one as a drop yet?

yes but ultra rare

From time to time I get one. Usually zone completion on an alt or a random mob in a starting zone. I think they drop more from the starting zones because ANet want to get you hooked on opening them when you start. I destroy all the chests I find until I have a key and then when a chest drops I’ll open it. Otherwise the chests just take up space.

^ you know u can sell blacklion chests right?

I’ve gotten a few from drops…not many. Mostly I just farm them.

If you do the first few PS in the low levels you get a key then you can start over with a new hero. Some ppl can get a key ever 20 mins? i think if you must have them there is a way to get them. Also as far as ppl have said this is a legitimate way to get these keys.

More rare than legendary. I got 1 key from loot after 1800 hour.

I’ve had two drop in a few thousand hours of gameplay. I got 6 mystery tonics and some XP boosters from them. Totally made me rush out and buy 50 more.

Although it’s extremely rare for them to drop ( they used to drop from daily achievements chests I think – I may be wrong, though ), it takes no more than 15-20 min to farm one key.

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I may have found 10 as drops while playing. But the majority of those were near release. I got one earlier this week.

Dropped one yesterday from one of those Orrian Farmers at the beginning of Arah. Opened a chest, Mini Caithe.

They’re extremely rare, I’m willing to bet Precursor drops are even 10x more rare than keys.

I’ve had about 4 in ~3.3k hours.

I found a few just after launch, but since then I have only ever gotten them as personal story rewards.

Extremely rare drops, due to multiple nerfs and gem store marketing tactics.

As mob drops I’ve had 2 in the last 1000 hours, from dailies I’ve had 30 or so.

Enzo.2104:

More rare than legendary. I got 1 key from loot after 1800 hour.

Most dubious quote of the thread so far.

I’ve had 4 keys drop for me since launch, and each one I have a screenshot for, because they are that rare. But also, I have been playing for over 4k hours and I’ve never seen a precursor.

So, to say that they’re as equally rare as each other would probably be more accurate; but then, RNG…

Sidenote: the rarity colour of these has increased from Basic (white) to Fine (blue), as I got one on an alt just the other day.

Yea I’ve never seen a precursor and gotten 2 from mob drops so no, not as rare as a legendary.

I’ve gotten like 3 or 4 since launch.

The first 3 dropped within the first month of launch. Probably because I was playing a lot more and everything. But did get my 4th one within the last two months.

I would say it probably equates an exotic drop if not even lower now. I’ve never gotten a exotic from a drop outside of boss chests (and only that started happening recently) or ever seen a precusor. So, yeah.

Katreyn I would strongly disagree, I’ve had about 60 exotic drops even had them off regular mobs, not champion silver or even veteran. Only had 2 keys.

I think I’ve got about 2 or 3 in over a year and more than 3K hours of gameplay.

huggles.5271:

I’ve had about 60 exotic drops even had them off regular mobs, not champion silver or even veteran..

This is pathetic, not what you said but the amount of exotics you’ve had compared to myself and many others that are continually spat upon by rng.

Paul what is your magic find? I spent a ton of gold on my 250%

I got a few around release but recently…. they’ve taken on a precursor drop %…

They dropped for me within this year of playing just only 2 times…
Its ridiculous how rare these keys drop.

Keys and Chests should nearly drop similar.
Anet should decrease the drop rate of chests and increase the drop rate of keys or implement them more into the reward systems of the game, like that you get 1 guaranteed key for every 10th successful daily (doing pve and pvp daily don’t count both, just the one you do first successfully)

keys should be always guaranteed rewards for reaching specific WvW Ranks, like every 10 ranks you get 1 guaranteed key.

Keys should be guaranteed rewards for achievement points chests and in regard of what kind of chest you get, the amount of keys should vary.

Small Chest = 1 Key
Medium Chest = 2 Keys
Big Chest = 3 Keys
Huge Chest = 5 Keys

People have tons of chests ANet should replace the keys in the Ingame Shop with an other item that should cost the same amount of Gems, but alot more attactive to buy, than the keys.

Like for example a new Boost Item, that temporarely increases Gold Find by like 50%.
this one is basically still missing, we have one for Magic find, for karma, for Exp, but none for Gold Find yet ….

Anet could also reward us with guaranteed keys for doing activities, like every played 30th activity or so we get instead of a Money Bag a Key.

ANet has finally learn, what it means to make a game really “rewarding” imo.
Givign out more keys would be definetely rewarding, even if the chests still stay RNG based, but if we get at least the feeling, that we can work constantly towards our goals and have a little influence on our goals, then we will receive automatically the feeling, that somethign that we got was rewarding, even if we have to make alot of tries to get something what we want.

Just collecting stacks over stacks of chests makes no sense, if you simply just get no keys to open them at all … and receiving that impression by ANet, that they just want to force us to buy the keys with real money, when they have unendless other options to make real money with us through selling worthful items, that we really want to buy, because they are rewarding, or reduce our time for grinding/farmign gold ect.

ANet can restrict what we can obtain through openign the chests, so if they just don’t let them drop other shop items ,like the said gold find booste,r thats missing, then theres also no big hard to the economy of the game and people would be still incentivized to buy those boosters in the shop, over buying keys from the shop …just to open one silly chest that just can give you randomly somethign that was absolutely not worth it to spend the gems for, what leaves also the bitter taste of gambling, what is also prohibited in specific countries and what is also the reason, why many people don’t like the shop at all.

The rewards in BL chests are so pathetic that it is better to just destroy them than to worry about ever opening them. If you really want keys, use the newbie human commoner routine to get one about every 20-30 minutes. If you enjoy tedium, that is.

If you want a key, make new alt is much faster approach.
If you pick a Human Commoner, then choose to save the Hospital. You get a key within 20mins. Pick a class that have range attack or aoe, since there are allied NPCs to help out.

If 1 Key is 125 Gem. And you get 3 keys an hour. Doing this is nets you the value of 375 Gem / hour. Which is around 18g/hr value. I think.

According to the current drop data on the wiki, they’ve only seen 1 in 376 chests.

I have had 4 drops from mobs/ map completion, just over 1k hours.

One thing I did do was farm black lion keys from level 10 personal story. after farming twelve keys I realised that the rewards from the black lion chest using these keys are very minor rewards like tonics and boosters.

After using one key from a map completion I got a black lion scrap and then going on to buying several keys with gems I had purchased , i received enough black lion scraps to get a claim ticket.

After this I was curious about the minor loot from the ones I farmed from personal story. So I went back to farming three more, all minor loot and not a single black lion scrap from 15 farmed keys.

huggles.5271:

Paul what is your magic find? I spent a ton of gold on my 250%

137%, that is quite a big difference. Think I’ve had 1 or 2 exotic drops since headstart not counting champ bags, probably aound 10 counting bags).

I got two during the original scarlet invasion events. But that was non stop champ killing, they probably have much better drop rates.

I’ve not seem them drop since they were also removed from dropping out of the chests….ie about a year ago.

(the chests use to drop keys at a fairly high rate, you’d get one key and then be able to open 6 boxes due to extra keys that dropped from open a box)

I’ve gotten 8 out of my 9 scraps from farmed chests. (I’ve only been farming them the last month or two, and I don’t do the 20-min. thing…lol.) I think it all is just a matter of luck.

I have had 5 keys drops in total, since release… One ticket scrap among those. I have never bought a single key and I dont plan to either.

Apart from those keys I have had some for compleated maps etc… still just got one ticket scrap in total from all chests that I’ve opened…

I think I’ve gotten 5-6 keys from actual kill/drops since headstart. I’ve probably only gotten 7-8 actual Exotic drops in the same time frame though :P

Now map completion is completely different, gotten plenty of keys from that.

Last time i got a key to drop was like the third day the game was out, since then the only keys i have gotten were the ones from the story mission rewards. I have also seen a massive decrease in the drop rate for the boxes to the point where they pretty much don’t drop at all but i am not going to complain about it because i was sick of getting them like every other kill.

Maybe its a good idea that Anet makes the black lions chest salvageble.
So if you salvage it you get 3 mithril or so.

Sandman.4192:

Maybe its a good idea that Anet makes the black lions chest salvageble.
So if you salvage it you get 3 mithril or so.

Or just a random crafting mat of any tier. (bones, blood ect.)

Sandman.4192:

Maybe its a good idea that Anet makes the black lions chest salvageble.
So if you salvage it you get 3 mithril or so.

After they delete like 50 million of them on the tp, sure.

Extremely rare from a normal mob drop. I’ve probably gotten around 5 during my whole 2k hours of gw2.

Zone completion on the other hand is 50/50.