Guild Wars 2

Did they nerf Bloodstone dusts from champ bags on this patch? I hope not. I have 21 characters and need over 51,000 pile of bloodstone dusts. I understand some people have several stacks. But I still need over 51,000 dusts. So please don’t nerf it.

It’s confirmed. ANET officially nerfed the bloodstone. Each bag only gives 0-2 now instead of 0-8…. WHY WHY WHY? Why do you punish NEW players?

AND on top of that you don’t even document it in the patch note!

Why the hell do you have 21 characters? There are 8 classes.

Wow .. really the second nerf now ? Only because people are not able to use rightclick to destroy it if the have too much ?

As some of the rare players that constantly has much more Dragonite than Bloodstone i’m really tempted to start a thread that they should nerf the amount of Dragonite, so that temples and whatever also only give 0-3.

Why do you need a separate set of ascended armour for each of 21 characters?

Ascended gear is bound to account, it would make sense to keep one set of armour per weight and keep track of which character it is on.

And not sure I know where it’s confirmed, as it isn’t stated in the patch notes that I could see.

They didn’t need to nerf the amount of dust… just increase the amount of uses.

Like putting in a Bloodstone Brick, 250 Bloodstone Dust, 1 Mystic Salvaging Kit, and 1 Crystalline Dust to get you, say, 10-20 Crystalline Dust. I could get behind that.

(Note: I’m not complaining really, as I’m fine with the change, but I still want to see more uses for Bloodstone Dust.)

Do my ears deceive me? Are people kittening that they nerfed bloodstone dust?

After threads and threads and threads about there being too much of it?

rolls on the floor laughing

As I said when they nerfed karma into oblivion…. we reap what we sow…

Where does it say this was nerfed?

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Do my ears deceive me? Are people kittening that they nerfed bloodstone dust?

After threads and threads and threads about there being too much of it?

rolls on the floor laughing

As I said when they nerfed karma into oblivion…. we reap what we sow…

Yeah you do know you’re on a forum on which “several” players to not say hundreds / thousands of them have gone through it and as such, many opinions will emerge ? And that not everybody thinks the same on a forum ? You seem to assume the OP stated there were too much Bloodstone, well I’m pretty sure he’s not by the people you’re talking about and if you look his messages history you won’t find any “QQ too many Bloodstone”. Surprise : it’s not you and the rest, it’s you, and this guy, and this other guy, and this other guy… and everyone express a different opinion. Roll on the floor laughing as much as you want.

Fact is, we had the OPTION to delete them. Now we’re FORCED to have less. Don’t see any use for that.

By the time you get 51k of dragonite and empyreals, you’ll probably have 51k of bloodstone.

Elathan.4902:

Why do you need a separate set of ascended armour for each of 21 characters?

Ascended gear is bound to account, it would make sense to keep one set of armour per weight and keep track of which character it is on.

And not sure I know where it’s confirmed, as it isn’t stated in the patch notes that I could see.

because it’s annoying to switch between characters. having to constantly go to a bank from wherever you are, having to drag them off, into the bank..and back out again.

If you switch alts alot. (and people with alot of alts generally do). Its alot of hassle.

On top of that.. you may have condi necro & a zerk necro.. ..and so you’ll want them to have thier own gear.

(I’m not someone who will ever make ascended for all my alts, just my necro and ele….. I could share the ascended daggers between them, but with having to take a trip to the bank rather than stay wherever I am..it’s just simpler to make 4 ascended daggers instead of 2 and share. .. as costly as it is..)

Because people keep on complaining so ArenaNet just nerf rates similarly to Karma and Silk (pre ascended crafting patch)

Stars.2179:

It’s confirmed. ANET officially nerfed the bloodstone. Each bag only gives 0-2 now instead of 0-8…. WHY WHY WHY? Why do you punish NEW players?

AND on top of that you don’t even document it in the patch note!

Because players like me have 8 stacks of dust and nearly a full stack of bloodstone bricks. And I’m not even someone who goes out and grinds the champ trains. I’ve got that much from simple daily routines.

CuRtoKy.8576:

Because people keep on complaining so ArenaNet just nerf rates similarly to Karma and Silk (pre ascended crafting patch)

So you’re basically saying that this is Anet’s way of listening to its customers ?

Excluding the Bloodstone dust, which in the end will barely affect anyone because they are likelier to be limited by dragonite and empyreal, are you saying the karma and silk nerf was done thinking it was doing the playerbase a favor ?

Stars.2179:

Did they nerf Bloodstone dusts from champ bags on this patch? I hope not. I have 21 characters and need over 51,000 pile of bloodstone dusts. I understand some people have several stacks. But I still need over 51,000 dusts. So please don’t nerf it.

I’m sorry, but you’re the exception. I’m willing to bet the average player has 3-5 characters at 80 only. 51,000 dusts for 21 characters is just insane.

As a guy who once asked for bloodstone nerfs: YES!

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Do my ears deceive me? Are people kittening that they nerfed bloodstone dust?

After threads and threads and threads about there being too much of it?

rolls on the floor laughing

As I said when they nerfed karma into oblivion…. we reap what we sow…

It may sound strange to you but there are people who mainly play in the open world and don’t do just Champ trains.
I have never problems to get Dragonite since i do a lot of world events, i also farm quite some chests that give me Fragments, but i have to force myself everytime i want to craft a new weapon to do the champ train for endless hours.

But its of course much easier to force people to run the champtrain for hours and hours than that some people have to use the right mousebutton.

Don’t you do dungeons ?

Stars.2179:

It’s confirmed. ANET officially nerfed the bloodstone. Each bag only gives 0-2 now instead of 0-8…. WHY WHY WHY? Why do you punish NEW players?

AND on top of that you don’t even document it in the patch note!

I wish I could sell mine to you.

RedStar.4218:

Don’t you do dungeons ?

Nope. Open World only.

So when you aren’t doing an World Event you are doing JP ?

Most people probably get enough bloodstone anyway since they’ll get it during farming empyreal or dragonite.

But if you farm chest for empyreals instead of dungeon, you probalby have a shortage.

DaShi.1368:

Stars.2179:

It’s confirmed. ANET officially nerfed the bloodstone. Each bag only gives 0-2 now instead of 0-8…. WHY WHY WHY? Why do you punish NEW players?

AND on top of that you don’t even document it in the patch note!

I wish I could sell mine to you.

I was thinking the same thing.

Now, does this portend un-binding them in the future? Paranoid hoarders unite!

RedStar.4218:

So when you aren’t doing an World Event you are doing JP ?

Of course i do a lot World Events, thats why i have always much more Dragonite.
Mostly however Jormag, Shatterer, Golem, Karka Queen, Maw and Jungle Worm
and only the revamped old Jungle Worm may now gives maybe more Bloodstone
since the Avatars are now champs that drop bags.

Back when those things came out I had an empyreal shortage because I took a break from dungeons. However, at that time I did temple events pretty much whenever I played. And with champions wandering those zones and being part of these events, I didn’t have any problem with bloodstone.

I could maybe understand how you could have a problem now. But I’ll say what I’ve always say whenever someone complained about empyreals or dragonite : you have different kind of activities you can do to get that material.
At least with bloodstone, you can do quite a lot of things.

kitten no, I really hope they lowered the drop rates of them. It’s so irritating how abundant it is. Even if you need it, you have to truly go out of your way to not have enough of it. SO few of people have 21 characters.

Why was it irritating ? Were you killing so much champions that you had stacks and stacks every 5 minutes ?

21 Characters and getting ascended on each? That’s… not healthy at all.

RedStar.4218:

But I’ll say what I’ve always say whenever someone complained about empyreals or dragonite : you have different kind of activities you can do to get that material.
At least with bloodstone, you can do quite a lot of things.

But why can’t people just use the right mouse button and destroy what they don’t need instead of crying all the time since the drop of Bloodstone gets nerfed to the ground.
Wonder how long i now have to run the also nerfed champ train if i need again maybe 500 bloodstones. Was already 3-4 hours before the first nerf i think.

People laughed when I stock everything…

They asked why I kept gift from scarlet. I told them what if I’m in a middle of dessert and trying to commit suicide.

Guess who’s laughing now…

RedStar.4218:

Why was it irritating ? Were you killing so much champions that you had stacks and stacks every 5 minutes ?

While playing? Yes. While standing idle? No. I solo dungeons all the time, so they come even slower than if I were to do in groups. Having to destroy several bloodstone stacks in an hour is just obnoxious and no one should have to do that because a very small minority of people have 20 characters and want ascended on all of them.

I’m fairly certain OP is not serious

Interesting… I wonder if they also reduced Empyreal Shards from Edge of the Mists/WvW activities?

Either way, like laokoko, I’m suddenly glad that I hoarded up all my Ascended mats. XD I actually made some calculations and figured that I have enough Bloodstone Dust for all the Ascended gear I could ever want to craft on my 5 mains, and am closing in on Empyreal Fragments (about 80%). Dragonite Ore, however, is only about 50% of the way there.

AW YES!

I support this change. I lost too much money keeping these worthless dusts.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

They didn’t need to nerf the amount of dust… just increase the amount of uses.

Like putting in a Bloodstone Brick, 250 Bloodstone Dust, 1 Mystic Salvaging Kit, and 1 Crystalline Dust to get you, say, 10-20 Crystalline Dust. I could get behind that.

(Note: I’m not complaining really, as I’m fine with the change, but I still want to see more uses for Bloodstone Dust.)

Exactly. smh

Instead of providing alternative use for dusts (eg. use as a currency for other desirable items), they just nerfed it? After all this time?
Surprised people are happy for such a lazy solution.

Can we have this fact put into the patch note so people are aware? or is there a dev reading this at all?

I’ve been deleting thousands of this, it’s so annoying that your inventory gets filled up with it in to time.

Thanks, ANet!

Aidan Savage.2078:

Stars.2179:

It’s confirmed. ANET officially nerfed the bloodstone. Each bag only gives 0-2 now instead of 0-8…. WHY WHY WHY? Why do you punish NEW players?

AND on top of that you don’t even document it in the patch note!

Because players like me have 8 stacks of dust and nearly a full stack of bloodstone bricks. And I’m not even someone who goes out and grinds the champ trains. I’ve got that much from simple daily routines.

So, you’re ok with a nerf, because its too much bother to right click> destroy.

makes sense …………………..

Actually it was excessive but I wouldn’t find a reason as a player to complain about it. At the very least it makes your 450-475 leveling so much cheaper.

I would’ve donated my stacks to you if I could… I’m still drowning in it.

Stars.2179:

It’s confirmed. ANET officially nerfed the bloodstone. Each bag only gives 0-2 now instead of 0-8…. WHY WHY WHY? Why do you punish NEW players?

AND on top of that you don’t even document it in the patch note!

Just opened 5 lootbags and got 5-6-5-2-4 bloodstone dust.

The could nerf bloodstone dust to zero drop chance for all I care, I hate it as a drop.

Soooooo where does it say this was nerfed… ?

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Do my ears deceive me? Are people kittening that they nerfed bloodstone dust?

After threads and threads and threads about there being too much of it?

rolls on the floor laughing

As I said when they nerfed karma into oblivion…. we reap what we sow…

If there was a change, then clearly it only affects players with 21 characters that need 51,000 bloodstone dust….

Dragonite Ore is what’s really going to screw him lol.

AnAspieKitten.5732:

Yeah you do know you’re on a forum on which “several” players to not say hundreds / thousands of them have gone through it and as such, many opinions will emerge ? And that not everybody thinks the same on a forum ? You seem to assume the OP stated there were too much Bloodstone, well I’m pretty sure he’s not by the people you’re talking about and if you look his messages history you won’t find any “QQ too many Bloodstone”. Surprise : it’s not you and the rest, it’s you, and this guy, and this other guy, and this other guy… and everyone express a different opinion. Roll on the floor laughing as much as you want.

Fact is, we had the OPTION to delete them. Now we’re FORCED to have less. Don’t see any use for that.

I believe you misunderstood me.

I simply find it hilarious that after months of people kittening “there’s too much bloodstone dust” (not specifically the OP or you necessarily, talking in general here) they (Anet) suddenly opt to reduce it. It was the same thing with karma. People kittened and complained for months that it was too abundant and worthless, and tada, Anet nerfed it. Then, some of those same complainers then whine that it’s not so abundant (again, not specially the OP or you necessarily, talking in general again). We can’t say Anet never listens to what players want…. It just might not be what all players want…

I’m not pleased with it being nerfed either, but I can’t say I’m surprised.

Nateeight.1498:

Woops, I’ve been deleting stacks of this crap that has been plaguing my bank for a long time. Had to purchase a new bank tab just to make room for it.

Just like the 10 luck drops that we have to spam click, anet needs to lessen the drop rate, and lessen the recipe requirements. Otherwise, others are in the same boat as me with stack of this stuff, and bloodstone bricks coming out the roof.

It’s just as annoying as the 10 luck we have to spam click, instead of lessening drop rate and keeping luck drops to 50 only.

Artificer look it up.

I hale loads of useless items like :
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Aetherblade_Code_Fragment
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Flames_of_Kryta
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Golden_Fortune_Scrap
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Investigation_Kit
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Candy-Powered_Matter_Meter
and so on..
It takes so much spaces in my inventory and that would be really obnoxious to delete them, no one should have to do that… ever !
So please Anet stop adding Living Story updates and all this content, please stop it now !

Beldin.5498:

It may sound strange to you but there are people who mainly play in the open world and don’t do just Champ trains.
I have never problems to get Dragonite since i do a lot of world events, i also farm quite some chests that give me Fragments, but i have to force myself everytime i want to craft a new weapon to do the champ train for endless hours.

But its of course much easier to force people to run the champtrain for hours and hours than that some people have to use the right mousebutton.

No, that isn’t strange to me at all. I’m one of the people that typically doesn’t just run a champ train as my preferred method of play. Typically I’m out in the world clearing maps and leveling characters. Even when I do run champ trains, it’s not on a lvl 80 char so I’m not getting oodles of dust from the bags either. The nerf hurts me (and my two dozen characters) too.

Like Kitten in a previous post, you misunderstand who I’m laughing at. Apparently I needed to be more clear. I’m laughing at the people that complained there was too much dust (just as they complained there was too much karma) and are now complaining that the drop rate was nerfed. Thus, the we reap what we sow line.

You’re very correct, that people should not be forced to champ train because other lazy people (can’t use the actual term I’d put here, I’d get infracted for sure haha) can’t be bothered to simply right-click → destroy. I agree with that.

Andred.1087:

I’m fairly certain OP is not serious

Actually I’m dead serious.

Draknar.5748:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Do my ears deceive me? Are people kittening that they nerfed bloodstone dust?

After threads and threads and threads about there being too much of it?

rolls on the floor laughing

As I said when they nerfed karma into oblivion…. we reap what we sow…

If there was a change, then clearly it only affects players with 21 characters that need 51,000 bloodstone dust….

Dragonite Ore is what’s really going to screw him lol.

1. Actually my 21 characters are split into 3 accounts of 7 each. So just as any normal person would have about 5-8 characters, my situation is absolutely normal to an average player.

Dragonites, you have a consistent way of farming it. Taking for example. I also need 51,000 dragonites (already got 12,000 over the last 2 months playing on and off, remaining 39,000).

With the 39,000 I need. Each day for each account. I can do 1 teq for 50 dragonites, shatterer for 20, golem for 20, karka queen for 30. That’s 120 dragonite ore per day. I also play simultaneous on two accounts at once on two different computers. So this speed up the process. You can see 13,000 / 120 is just slightly over 4 months left of work that I can get all the dragonites I need.

For emp fragments. I happen to also have a 4th account of 2 mesmers stationing on 5 different jumping puzzle. Each of the main account also have 1 mesmer stationing at 3 other jumping puzzle. Each jumping puzzle gives on average 7 emp frag. So
I get about 7 × 5 × 6 = 210 emp per day per account. And 17,000 / 210 is just slighlt over 80 days.

The bloodstones are the only ones that not many people do champ train to be able to obtain. Even an average person which has 7 characters will need about 17,000 bloodstones to get all their characters ascended will have a hard time getting all the bloodstone now if they haven’t hoarded them up before.