Boredom and Madness, Halloween?
it will be different. it was different last year than it was 2 years ago, although I can admit it was slightly better 2 years ago
it will be different. it was different last year than it was 2 years ago, although I can admit it was slightly better 2 years ago
That’s because 2 years ago it was all new where as last year 80% of it was reused assets. Plus some emo child
I sincerely hope they have new enjoyable content.
The Guild Wars community has been so upset in recently, the last thing we need is more fuel added to the fire.
Edit – Not a fan of the Bloody Prince, his inclusion completely detracted from Mad King Thorn.
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If we are just going to repeat halloween events, why not the first yeat. It was much more fun.
It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
No one said anything of repeat content from last year. All we have so far is that “Blood and Madness” is returning.
Can’t be let down when there is zero details released yet. I mean, it’s still September.
No one said anything of repeat content from last year. All we have so far is that “Blood and Madness” is returning.
Can’t be let down when there is zero details released yet. I mean, it’s still September.
I can be let down that it’s going to be half as long as it was last year.
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It’s funny. People wanted this game to be more like Guild Wars 1 and in Guild Wars 1, holiday festivals were almost exactly the same for a year at a time.
I guess people want it to be like Guild Wars 1 only when it proves their point.
It’s not reasonable to expect tons of new stuff every halloween, and for a two week period not worth working on it that much with everything esle going on, if they have to redo half of it every year.
That’s a bad time investment.
They designed The Festivals so that they could re-use them… How often do people change their own traditions in real life? I know that my family does Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas in the SAME annual fashion every year. there are sometimes tweaks but the general bits stay they same. I like a that I will get to reply annual content. I am excited.
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At least make it a repeat of Shadow of the Mad King. Blood and Madness was… disappointing, to say the least.
Oh wait, how does Halloween fit into your LS2 arc ANet?
After all, thats why you said SAB isn’t coming back, right?
Especially given that B&M was done last year.
Guess that method of entrapping Thorn just didn’t cut it.
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Oh wait, how does Halloween fit into your LS2 arc ANet?
After all, thats why you said SAB isn’t coming back, right?
And it begins already, like when Wintersday was going on after the Tower of Nightmares and Scarlet apparently had a big threatening presence on the horizon, and people made light of it.
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No one said anything of repeat content from last year. All we have so far is that “Blood and Madness” is returning.
Can’t be let down when there is zero details released yet. I mean, it’s still September.
“Blood and Madness” is not the name of the festival itself, but the name specifically of last years Halloween content.
Reusing that name rather than a new name or just calling it the Halloween update does at least suggest its possible they might just be using the exact same story and content from last year again. Its certainly not confirmed, but its not completely ridiculous for some people to worry that they might reuse it.
Hopefully that won’t be the case, but who knows.
I’ll be pretty disappointed if it is just a complete redo of last years. It would make little to no sense, for one. Not to mention the fact that I played the heck out of the content last year (and the year before for that matter) so if its just more of the same it won’t really be much for me to do. I’m sure I’ll enjoy running the Clock Tower some more, but the labyrinth and the story instances… eh, not too excited about those if they aren’t spiced up with new stuff in some way.
I don’t really mind ANet recycling festival content (see Labyrinthine Cliffs), but I feel they didn’t do themselves any favours when they created Blood and Madness. It introduced us to a new narrative involving the Mad King and the Bloody Prince, and now there’s the unspoken expectation that this story will be built on.
Still, if it’ll allow newer players the chance to do the Blood and Madness story, as well as potentially allowing us to do the Ascent to Madness mini-dungeon again, along with the Labyrinth, Clock Tower, and other minigames, I’m content.
I sincerely hope they have new enjoyable content.
The Guild Wars community has been so upset in recently, the last thing we need is more fuel added to the fire.
Edit – Not a fan of the Bloody Prince, his inclusion completely detracted from Mad King Thorn.
I liked the premise, but the pay off was lackluster.
It would have been awesome if we were able to choose a side and the outcome would determin the next halloween story, as the looser would have to regain his power, while maybe a new part of the thorns lineage and history would be unvailed.
Sadly it came down only to: “me bad prince, me spreading chaos, me going back into my coffin.”
Sadly it came down only to: “me bad prince, me spreading chaos, me going back into my coffin.”
I hope what you described comes later after the Prince has been established. I mean, the first Halloween here was pretty lacking in my opinion compared to the stuff we could do with GW1.
. . . especially the Halloween Night.
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It’s funny. People wanted this game to be more like Guild Wars 1 and in Guild Wars 1, holiday festivals were almost exactly the same for a year at a time.
I guess people want it to be like Guild Wars 1 only when it proves their point.
It’s not reasonable to expect tons of new stuff every halloween, and for a two week period not worth working on it that much with everything esle going on, if they have to redo half of it every year.
That’s a bad time investment.
Yeah but if at least the rest held a candle to GW1, we wouldn’t mind having the same celebration (after all, IRL celebrations are somehow the same each and every year).
We have seen Einstein’s quote about insanity a lot these days, and if they recycle the whole “Blood and Madness” plot just for the sake of having a Halloween festival, it’s proven right once again.
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It’s funny. People wanted this game to be more like Guild Wars 1 and in Guild Wars 1, holiday festivals were almost exactly the same for a year at a time.
I guess people want it to be like Guild Wars 1 only when it proves their point.
It’s not reasonable to expect tons of new stuff every halloween, and for a two week period not worth working on it that much with everything esle going on, if they have to redo half of it every year.
That’s a bad time investment.
No, I’m not. Let’s compare the first Halloween of GW1 and GW2, shall we?
At the first halloween of GW1 there was only Tyria , but at the second they added Kamadan as well. On the third halloween we got a PvP mode: Costume Brawl.
Now let’s take a look on GW2’s halloween what has been added : a few soloable story instance. What has been removed :
-Dungeon: Ascent to Madness
- Reaper’s Rumble (MOBA Style pvp)
-Backpack scavanger hunt
- Pumpkin Carvin
- Removed the achievement points for completing Mad King’s clocktower
-I’m not sure, but I think the four Meta events in the open world, which lead to the opening of the haunted doors also got removed.
What I’m expecting this year: redecorated LA since it’s kinda destroyed ATM and new gemstore items, if you except those you can’t be disappoint.
In short: Yes, we didn’t get much in GW1 from year to year, but we always got something significant like Costume brawl, new quests or the underworld challange, and I can’t say an example of something got removed.
Also, this is my personal opinion, but I liked the finale better in 1, they had much better yearly festival masks and in GW2 we have much less emote, which makes it kinda boring.
We have seen Einstein’s quote about insanity a lot these days, and if they recycle the whole “Blood and Madness” plot just for the sake of having a Halloween festival, it’s proven right once again.
I personally think the reason they are recycling this content again is for China. They haven’t experienced this story.
So because they decided that for good or bad, our versions are unified, we get the same deal here.
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It’s funny. People wanted this game to be more like Guild Wars 1 and in Guild Wars 1, holiday festivals were almost exactly the same for a year at a time.
Almost the same, you use a lot of weasel words Vayne.
Halloween 2011 — Introduced new costumes, Costume Brawl disguises, and Scarred Psyche (a new challenge mission); the rewards for GvG were reduced. About two weeks after the end of the event, two Halloween 2011 hat givers, Aahtan and Erulis, were introduced and appeared for one week.
Halloween 2010 — Added Tyrian and Elonian quest chains; introduced new costumes, Costume Brawl disguises, and a Costume Brawl map; added Trick-or-Treat Bag rewards and new NPC disguises to GvG.
Halloween 2009 — Added Underworld quest chain.
Halloween 2008 — Added a new map to Costume Brawl.
Halloween 2007 — Added Costume Brawl and Trick-or-Treat Bags
Halloween 2006 — Added a finale, decorations, and collectors to Kamadan
Halloween 2005 — Introduced Halloween; initial decorations were in Lion’s Arch, Droknar’s Forge, and the Tomb of the Primeval Kings; initial collectors across Tyria; original finale in Lion’s Arch.
If they just add blood and madness back in with no new content at all then it will be the first time they’ve done this since the release of GW.
i swear if they add 1 single haystack without removing the storage crate at the mark || golem, then that in my mind will be the undeniable proof that this games development is entirely broken
It’s funny. People wanted this game to be more like Guild Wars 1 and in Guild Wars 1, holiday festivals were almost exactly the same for a year at a time.
Almost the same, you use a lot of weasel words Vayne.
Halloween 2011 — Introduced new costumes, Costume Brawl disguises, and Scarred Psyche (a new challenge mission); the rewards for GvG were reduced. About two weeks after the end of the event, two Halloween 2011 hat givers, Aahtan and Erulis, were introduced and appeared for one week.
Halloween 2010 — Added Tyrian and Elonian quest chains; introduced new costumes, Costume Brawl disguises, and a Costume Brawl map; added Trick-or-Treat Bag rewards and new NPC disguises to GvG.
Halloween 2009 — Added Underworld quest chain.
Halloween 2008 — Added a new map to Costume Brawl.
Halloween 2007 — Added Costume Brawl and Trick-or-Treat Bags
Halloween 2006 — Added a finale, decorations, and collectors to Kamadan
Halloween 2005 — Introduced Halloween; initial decorations were in Lion’s Arch, Droknar’s Forge, and the Tomb of the Primeval Kings; initial collectors across Tyria; original finale in Lion’s Arch.If they just add blood and madness back in with no new content at all then it will be the first time they’ve done this since the release of GW.
I assume they won’t add it in with no work done on it, but the differences between the two Halloweens we’ve had so far is pretty broad.
Even stuff in the Labyrithe wasn’t identical between the two years. Same with Wintersdays. Infinarium changes, the jumping puzzle change. Hell even the Halloween jumping puzzle changed by making is so that you couldn’t be blocked by norn or charr jumping with you. People tend to forget these changes, but they make a huge difference in game play.
Rewards also changed from one year to the next. The mad king’s son thing was very different than the minidungeon from the first year. That was a major change too.
I think people if they actually counted individual changes would find that events are changing. Even the two new events added to the Four Winds event, and the new crystals and the addition of Master crystals was change. Conversations with people changed. Hints about what was to come abounded there. Rewards changed.
There have been changes to every single event so far. People just want to ignore them, because they’re not big huge instances, which isn’t really reasonable to expect.
it will be different. it was different last year than it was 2 years ago, although I can admit it was slightly better 2 years ago
That’s because 2 years ago it was all new where as last year 80% of it was reused assets. Plus some emo child
To be fair, if the Mad King was your dad, you’d be an emo too.
Gameplay was better in the first Halloween, but I liked the story of the second one.
I assume they won’t add it in with no work done on it, but the differences between the two Halloweens we’ve had so far is pretty broad.
Even stuff in the Labyrithe wasn’t identical between the two years. Same with Wintersdays. Infinarium changes, the jumping puzzle change. Hell even the Halloween jumping puzzle changed by making is so that you couldn’t be blocked by norn or charr jumping with you. People tend to forget these changes, but they make a huge difference in game play.
Rewards also changed from one year to the next. The mad king’s son thing was very different than the minidungeon from the first year. That was a major change too.
I think people if they actually counted individual changes would find that events are changing. Even the two new events added to the Four Winds event, and the new crystals and the addition of Master crystals was change. Conversations with people changed. Hints about what was to come abounded there. Rewards changed.
There have been changes to every single event so far. People just want to ignore them, because they’re not big huge instances, which isn’t really reasonable to expect.
To be fair, these were adjustments based on complains from the year before and not addition.
In general most of these things felt like substractions, since parts were just cut out, without any explanation.
People questioned that greatly last year, as the Bloody Prince was bloody disapointing, since his involvement was not that compelling like the Mad King and in general the halloween felt inferior for some (i will never say all)
I assume they won’t add it in with no work done on it, but the differences between the two Halloweens we’ve had so far is pretty broad.
Even stuff in the Labyrithe wasn’t identical between the two years. Same with Wintersdays. Infinarium changes, the jumping puzzle change. Hell even the Halloween jumping puzzle changed by making is so that you couldn’t be blocked by norn or charr jumping with you. People tend to forget these changes, but they make a huge difference in game play.
Rewards also changed from one year to the next. The mad king’s son thing was very different than the minidungeon from the first year. That was a major change too.
I think people if they actually counted individual changes would find that events are changing. Even the two new events added to the Four Winds event, and the new crystals and the addition of Master crystals was change. Conversations with people changed. Hints about what was to come abounded there. Rewards changed.
There have been changes to every single event so far. People just want to ignore them, because they’re not big huge instances, which isn’t really reasonable to expect.
To be fair, these were adjustments based on complains from the year before and not addition.
In general most of these things felt like substractions, since parts were just cut out, without any explanation.
People questioned that greatly last year, as the Bloody Prince was bloody disapointing, since his involvement was not that compelling like the Mad King and in general the halloween felt inferior for some (i will never say all)
Being disappointed with something new isn’t the same thing as not getting something new. I was very disappointed with Winds of Change in Guild Wars 1, but I acknowledge it was new.
The amount of work it took to put in that new stuff is probably as much or more than the stuff that was added to Guild Wars 1 Halloween.
I assume they won’t add it in with no work done on it, but the differences between the two Halloweens we’ve had so far is pretty broad.
Even stuff in the Labyrithe wasn’t identical between the two years. Same with Wintersdays. Infinarium changes, the jumping puzzle change. Hell even the Halloween jumping puzzle changed by making is so that you couldn’t be blocked by norn or charr jumping with you. People tend to forget these changes, but they make a huge difference in game play.
Rewards also changed from one year to the next. The mad king’s son thing was very different than the minidungeon from the first year. That was a major change too.
I think people if they actually counted individual changes would find that events are changing. Even the two new events added to the Four Winds event, and the new crystals and the addition of Master crystals was change. Conversations with people changed. Hints about what was to come abounded there. Rewards changed.
There have been changes to every single event so far. People just want to ignore them, because they’re not big huge instances, which isn’t really reasonable to expect.
To be fair, these were adjustments based on complains from the year before and not addition.
In general most of these things felt like substractions, since parts were just cut out, without any explanation.
People questioned that greatly last year, as the Bloody Prince was bloody disapointing, since his involvement was not that compelling like the Mad King and in general the halloween felt inferior for some (i will never say all)Being disappointed with something new isn’t the same thing as not getting something new. I was very disappointed with Winds of Change in Guild Wars 1, but I acknowledge it was new.
The amount of work it took to put in that new stuff is probably as much or more than the stuff that was added to Guild Wars 1 Halloween.
How about being disappointed with something because it’s less than last year?