Bot Creep
I actually haven’t seen but two.
My concern tho is that they don’t have a way of keeping them from porting from one node to the next without being detected.
I was in gorge the other day and a ranger ran up to a node and completely disappeared from it to another node nearby without a doubt it was a port hack. I don’t have lag issues when it comes to players and culling only occurs to me when i run into a zone for the first time everything loads including far far away players and mobs.. I can literally see players on the other side of banks or underwater fighting full on and appearing disappearing so I know it was a teleport hack.
Balance Team: Please Fix Mine Toolbelt Positioning!
There are plenty of threads about this kind of thing already. Here’s the information that you need to know:
If you see bots, report them. It is in the interest of ArenaNet not to blindly ban them all immediately so that they can take time to figure out how they are managing to bot. Doing that makes it easier for them to get rid of them later.
Understand that for each avenue that Anet blocks, these botters will find a new one. You can’t wage a war against them by banning them daily, you have to take time to figure out what they’re doing so that you can shut it down. You have to think about the long haul.
That being said, there have been about 9,000 threads on botting, all of which get closed. I’m sure this one will follow along that same path.
Hey, lets add some Math to the whine.
This game has 25 Maps and 52 servers, not counting overflow.
Basically every map is its own server, this means there are actually 25×52=1300 servers which ANet has to police constantly for bots.
For some reason they are unwilling to hire live GMs who immediately respond to every whine, that would come from the players populating these servers pretty much 24/7.
This obviously means they have to automate the process by creating data-mining scripts analyzing the data that clients constantly communicate back to the servers.
Oddly this also takes time.
Even more oddly the Chinese botraiders seem to be cunning enough to adapt their own bots to counter ANet´s datamining. Probably because they are making a killing because you people are willing to pay “real money” for their virtual gold to buy stuff that´s virtual (calling our fiat currencies real money is actually the real joke here).
Why am I posting this?
Tryin´to keep it real. :p
Polish > hype
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Hey, lets add some Math to the whine.
This game has 25 Maps and 52 servers, not counting overflow.Basically every map is its own server, this means there are actually 25×52=1300 servers which ANet has to police constantly for bots.
For some reason they are unwilling to hire live GMs who immediately respond to every whine, that would come from the players populating these servers pretty much 24/7.
This obviously means they have to automate the process by creating data-mining scripts analyzing the data that clients constantly communicate back to the servers.Oddly this also takes time.
Even more oddly the Chinese botraiders seem to be cunning enough to adapt their own bots to counter ANet´s datamining. Probably because they are making a killing because you people are willing to pay “real money” for their virtual gold to buy stuff that´s virtual (calling our fiat currencies real money is actually the real joke here).
Why am I posting this?
Tryin´to keep it real. :p
Anet has no datamining, Anet has no antibot software even. What they do is ban everyone with excessive amounts of reports. Which is not much of a system, and they ban innocent people. So much so that people complain (even botters) and get their accounts back. Most likely they unbanned a number (who knows how many).
Not just that though the “Chinese” (I got infracted for this on these message boards for using the word Chinese or something) often hack accounts and use those. There not losing any money or bots to bans. People who got hacked are losing their accounts.
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Anet has no datamining, Anet has no antibot software even.
Watch their latest GDC lecture. Search for programming secrets, it´s somewhere on here.
Polish > hype
Anet has no datamining, Anet has no antibot software even.
Watch their latest GDC lecture. Search for programming secrets, it´s somewhere on here.
I’m sure they datamine statistical information, but they do not statistically mine for botting information. How could they how do you define a bot or a hacker using the game? How would you define a real player to a false player? If it was so easy they would be instant banned immediately, but there not. You can’t datamine for something that has no stats or figures.
You can’t datamine for something that has no stats or figures.
And you haven´t got the foggiest what the client can or cannot datamine. So stop pretending you do.
Obviously ANet won´t ever reveal that vital piece of information either.
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Polish > hype
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Sir you insult me, its not very difficult to understand.
Data is a numerical value. You would need something you can quantify. The bots are not doing anything that a human would not do, hence it would be hard to identify.
Is there a way, yes, can Anet do it. I doubt it they can’t fix their own bugs.
Perhaps you can detect number of clicks per second rather than keyboard presses, but no ones that dumb to make a bot like that.
There are plenty of threads about this kind of thing already. Here’s the information that you need to know:
If you see bots, report them. It is in the interest of ArenaNet not to blindly ban them all immediately so that they can take time to figure out how they are managing to bot. Doing that makes it easier for them to get rid of them later.
Understand that for each avenue that Anet blocks, these botters will find a new one. You can’t wage a war against them by banning them daily, you have to take time to figure out what they’re doing so that you can shut it down. You have to think about the long haul.
That being said, there have been about 9,000 threads on botting, all of which get closed. I’m sure this one will follow along that same path.
The point of my post to this thread was that you CAN’T report them if they teleport out of view of the text or targeting them. It’s really easy to say that but that’s not the new issue. They are using obviously, the technology to port between waypoints as a means to port between nodes to farm them for gold. I guess that’s the reason why mithril is still worth a few copper while all the other metals have been boosted in the TP finally.
How do you report someone that you see getting a node that the next second is beyond your view and is nowhere near you so you can’t find out their name?
Balance Team: Please Fix Mine Toolbelt Positioning!
Why not take a real stand on the botting in game. All accounts who have been caught botting will be per-ma band unless proven that the account was hacked. Make it a load in screen message. Stating that any account that has had gold sent to it from that toon will also be per-ma banned.
A: you will get the account the gold farmers store the gold on.
B: you will get the people who support them by buying gold.
C: Most gamers are social people, who hang out with others. And in most cases these people will not drop the game just because one was banned. Hence that person who was banned will most likely,,, after much nerd raging,,, go and buy another account. Bam another $90 buck in your pockets.
AND please don’t try and say we have no way of tracking that because your telling fibs. For a small fee per week both my wife and i will do the job for you. Just give us the Authority on our account to do so. I would personally drop your botting numbers by 90%. And when players QQ about it, ill happily reply to them with "thanks for your $90 for the game client. if you wish to play GW2 with your friends. Go buy another account and next time purchase through the GW2 gem store. Yours sincerely GW2 personal &** kicker.
at least T5 and T6 mats will be cheaper
Why not take a real stand on the botting in game. All accounts who have been caught botting will be per-ma band unless proven that the account was hacked. Make it a load in screen message. Stating that any account that has had gold sent to it from that toon will also be per-ma banned.
A: you will get the account the gold farmers store the gold on.
B: you will get the people who support them by buying gold.
C: Most gamers are social people, who hang out with others. And in most cases these people will not drop the game just because one was banned. Hence that person who was banned will most likely,,, after much nerd raging,,, go and buy another account. Bam another $90 buck in your pockets.
AND please don’t try and say we have no way of tracking that because your telling fibs. For a small fee per week both my wife and i will do the job for you. Just give us the Authority on our account to do so. I would personally drop your botting numbers by 90%. And when players QQ about it, ill happily reply to them with "thanks for your $90 for the game client. if you wish to play GW2 with your friends. Go buy another account and next time purchase through the GW2 gem store. Yours sincerely GW2 personal &** kicker.
This plan assumes you know exactly who is botting and assumes they can id where money is coming from. Id don’t think they hire psychics.