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Posted by: laibros.3490

laibros.3490

I know that Anet is not going to provide information every day but I’m really frustrated about how long it takes to just ban account.

I know location and the name of the bot which is farming for a week or so without nearly any pause. Except of (I presume) selling the stuff and returning back to the farming location. I was able to broke the bot script a few times but it seems that they improved that script and now it’s impossible.

Point is that I made various test regarding credibility of that character before I reported that to Anet as botting. It includes letting the bot fall from the cliff, stuck it in terrain, checking aggro ranges and so on. It’s on 200% that’s real bot and no data mining is required. I simply do not understand why every case requires data mining.

As I understand that customer service requires much more money, I would strongly recommend to hire GMs (game masters) which may pop up immediately on reported place and observe the bot/s behavior. For example the bot I’m talking about can be clearly recognized from real player in 10 minutes maximum. GM can create some screenshots or video as a proof in case the player (bot) will complain.

“My” reported bot farmed (my guess) thousands but more likely 10k+ resources during these days. I’m counting that as average what I can get in one hour of farming. This is just ONE bot.

The bots ban simply can’t take so long and should be treated immediately (up to 3 days) but it requires personal experience from Anet representative as a proof for banning them. I understand that some cases might be hard to review but there are specific rules for each scripted bot such as:

1. “Aggro” range – the radius where the bot operates and reacts on mobs.
2. Path-finding – unnatural moving – returning to specific point even if it’s not necessary.
3. Collision treating – how the bot reacts if there is an obstacle.
4. Luring the bot to dangerous places with using bot aggro on monsters.
5. Warping – some bots may slightly warp when moving.
..and so on.

Also I reported bots which were members of the guild with normal names. So the bot does not usually mean character with the name “xyowujel” and without guild.

I’m player currently working on my legendary but with the bots situated in key locations it’s becoming extremely frustrating experience. I know I can do other things (and I do other things) but I need to return to specific places because it is necessary for my legendary “journey”.

Btw sorry, the other topic about bots was posted during the creation of this post. So it wasn’t intended to create multiple topics.

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Posted by: Esrever.8613

Esrever.8613

bots will always be back but anet will ban them in waves and eventually the $60 investment won’t be worth it for the gold farmers.

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Posted by: laibros.3490

laibros.3490

bots will always be back but anet will ban them in waves and eventually the $60 investment won’t be worth it for the gold farmers.

That’s the point. The waves. Waves are simply wrong approach. They should ban them immediately they know it’s a bot. Marketing department can wait a month and release a huge news about banning thousands of bots or whatever but the action from Anet should be asap. But not asap as we all know but really fast.

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Posted by: Esrever.8613

Esrever.8613

well the wave banning is to prevent bot makers from catching on to game scripts that are used to identify the bots.

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Posted by: laibros.3490

laibros.3490

The script is script. No matter what bot makers do you can visually reveal them. Some rules are always necessary in bot scripting like what to do if the monster is close, what to do if the bot is unable to continue on specific path and so on. This is not AI. Script is always recognizable.

Btw. if they script too sophisticated bot it may automatically become less effective in farming resources. They need to add conditions and the conditions may work ultimately against them. And so I believe it the bots will be always clearly distinguished from real players.

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Posted by: Max Lexandre.6279

Max Lexandre.6279

The bots adapt to the scripts an tricks the game itself as to detect them.

A new update came, they all gone… But they didn’t gone forever, they were just adapting to the new way to keep botting without detection.

This is an eternal fight that I supose ANet can’t beat, they can only controll them enough to don’t let them affect the economy as they did before that updates.

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Posted by: TerminalMontage.5693

TerminalMontage.5693

Oh. Hopefully the price of ectos will drop 10 silver then.

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Posted by: laibros.3490

laibros.3490

I do not think they can be beaten. The new bots wave is completely stupid and according to your assumptions they should be more clever than before. My experience is different. They are dumb. However the names are now normal and they can be part of the guild and this is improvement for me. Also they have decent equipment for farming.

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Posted by: Moderator.9672

Moderator.9672

Hi,

Thank you for your suggestion and the details you provided. As said in the other thread about the same topic, please keep on reporting them using either the in-game tool or by submitting a ticket to support.

Thanks for your help

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