Guild Wars 2

I think it’s important to bring back some kind of small reward for leveling past 80. The current transition for a fresh player hitting 80 between EXP being their primary goal to it suddenly becoming completely useless is pretty harsh and demoralizing for them.

As an established player that’s been here since launch, I know that pretty much everything you do at 80 still has value. Unlocking hearts for unique skins/karma/cooking mats, exploring areas to work to 100% completion for getting that someday legendary, tomes/scrolls for spirit shards, etc…

Unfortunately, new players hitting 80 don’t know these things yet. Even if they are aware of them, 100% map completion or farming for a legendary is a pretty distant goal for most of them. They need time to transition to the “GW2 way”, and the sudden pointlessness of that EXP bar hits them hard and interferes with that transition. They’ve been so focused on EXP during their first journey to 80 that it suddenly becoming useless is a mental barrier that prevents them from appreciating the value of everything else you do at 80.

I think it’s really important to bring back some kind of small, immediate reward for leveling at 80. It doesn’t need to be much; maybe 3 silver for every bar past 80? Or 500 karma? Or one of those transmutation stones that can be converted 10 at a time into transmutation charges? There are a lot of reasonable options here that I believe wouldn’t kill the economy or eat into gemstore sales.

Some context; I’ve been playing (off and on) since launch, but I am recently playing with a group of 7 people who just got the game for the first time during the F2P conversion. They are all starting to hit 80 now and the shock of “what, my EXP bar is pointless now?” is hitting them pretty hard. I think giving the EXP bar some meaning again, however small, would be super helpful in keeping these folks engaged with the game long enough to get hooked on all the other benefits of doing things at 80. Right now that’s all a bit too big for them to take in at once so they tunnel vision into the futility of that yellow bar…

HoT will introduce Tryia-Masteries and you will be able to level them after 80. The XP bar will be replaced with a mastery-bar.

give it 36 days.

Yep, in 4 weeks your wish will be granted

Rabe.2456:

HoT will introduce Tryia-Masteries and you will be able to level them after 80. The XP bar will be replaced with a mastery-bar.

I didn’t know this…will there be any rewards?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/reimagining-progression-the-mastery-system/

should answer all your questions

Rabe.2456:

HoT will introduce Tryia-Masteries and you will be able to level them after 80. The XP bar will be replaced with a mastery-bar.

HoT is more than a month away, and masteries (to my understanding) will only be available to people who have purchased HoT.

nezroy.8492:

Rabe.2456:

HoT will introduce Tryia-Masteries and you will be able to level them after 80. The XP bar will be replaced with a mastery-bar.

HoT is more than a month away, and masteries (to my understanding) will only be available to people who have purchased HoT.

and? its this way since the feature patch

its the way anet decided to go. only other option is to quit if you cant deal with it….

nezroy.8492:

Rabe.2456:

HoT will introduce Tryia-Masteries and you will be able to level them after 80. The XP bar will be replaced with a mastery-bar.

HoT is more than a month away, and masteries (to my understanding) will only be available to people who have purchased HoT.

Just as other MMOs have an extra 10 levels if you buy the expansion, this game has progression for level 80s who buy the expansion. Neither type of MMO allows the non expansion buyer to progress their character.

nezroy.8492:

Rabe.2456:

HoT will introduce Tryia-Masteries and you will be able to level them after 80. The XP bar will be replaced with a mastery-bar.

HoT is more than a month away, and masteries (to my understanding) will only be available to people who have purchased HoT.

But the main game is free now and HoT might be awesome.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

nezroy.8492:

Rabe.2456:

HoT will introduce Tryia-Masteries and you will be able to level them after 80. The XP bar will be replaced with a mastery-bar.

HoT is more than a month away, and masteries (to my understanding) will only be available to people who have purchased HoT.

Just as other MMOs have an extra 10 levels if you buy the expansion, this game has progression for level 80s who buy the expansion. Neither type of MMO allows the non expansion buyer to progress their character.

Yes, but I realized too late the thousands of exp I was earning doing world completion was going to complete and total waste, and I’m a customer who purchased HoT>
I picked it as something to work on while waiting for HoT, now I feel ripped off for doing it early, everything I do feeling like I’m wasting effort. And all it would take would be to get something, a spirit shard even, for my efforts.

ScribeTheMad.7614:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

nezroy.8492:

Rabe.2456:

HoT will introduce Tryia-Masteries and you will be able to level them after 80. The XP bar will be replaced with a mastery-bar.

HoT is more than a month away, and masteries (to my understanding) will only be available to people who have purchased HoT.

Just as other MMOs have an extra 10 levels if you buy the expansion, this game has progression for level 80s who buy the expansion. Neither type of MMO allows the non expansion buyer to progress their character.

Yes, but I realized too late the thousands of exp I was earning doing world completion was going to complete and total waste, and I’m a customer who purchased HoT>
I picked it as something to work on while waiting for HoT, now I feel ripped off for doing it early, everything I do feeling like I’m wasting effort. And all it would take would be to get something, a spirit shard even, for my efforts.

I have 8 chars with full map completion that will never have that if it does count. I’ll have the Rev and a char that has 70% done that was started after I bought the expansion. /shrug. That’s the way it goes.

Even with the masteries the level 80 Spirit Shard should go back in place. Why, simple:

• It grants some feeling that hitting 80 has value, based on betas you will gain mastery XP as you go not just on hitting 80 over and over again.
• It creates a good source of resources for people if they use shards versus just hording them. Shards are dropping but based on RNG they are not keeping pace for some people if their luck is not good.
• It gives meanings to the +XP food and boosters that people have stopped using now once they hit 80 since it means nothing.
• It was fun, hitting cap didn’t feel that way since there was something to collect from it. Will masteries fill this spot, no. They will be different and potentially fun on their own but still not fill that gap.

So OP, +1 from me and add another +100 from all the others in game that this has been discussed with.

TheGrimm.5624:

Even with the masteries the level 80 Spirit Shard should go back in place. Why, simple:

• It grants some feeling that hitting 80 has value, based on betas you will gain mastery XP as you go not just on hitting 80 over and over again.
• It creates a good source of resources for people if they use shards versus just hording them. Shards are dropping but based on RNG they are not keeping pace for some people if their luck is not good.
• It gives meanings to the +XP food and boosters that people have stopped using now once they hit 80 since it means nothing.
• It was fun, hitting cap didn’t feel that way since there was something to collect from it. Will masteries fill this spot, no. They will be different and potentially fun on their own but still not fill that gap.

So OP, +1 from me and add another +100 from all the others in game that this has been discussed with.

I agree that ANet should have left something in place for gaining experience during the period between introducing specializations/hero points and the release of HoT.

However, I think the HoT system will be fine for people feeling that it’s worth gaining experience after L80, since it does help progress masteries and spirit shards will accumulate for everyone except those that spend them like they are unlimited (which was sort of true prior to Hero Points).

TheGrimm.5624:

Even with the masteries the level 80 Spirit Shard should go back in place. Why, simple:

• It grants some feeling that hitting 80 has value, based on betas you will gain mastery XP as you go not just on hitting 80 over and over again.
• It creates a good source of resources for people if they use shards versus just hording them. Shards are dropping but based on RNG they are not keeping pace for some people if their luck is not good.
• It gives meanings to the +XP food and boosters that people have stopped using now once they hit 80 since it means nothing.
• It was fun, hitting cap didn’t feel that way since there was something to collect from it. Will masteries fill this spot, no. They will be different and potentially fun on their own but still not fill that gap.

So OP, +1 from me and add another +100 from all the others in game that this has been discussed with.

+1 to the OP and +1 to you. I think 1 spirit shard is a fitting reward.

I think some of you either didn’t read the article that was linked or missed a very important part of it.

I quote, “Some Mastery points will come from content that existing players may have already completed, and these Mastery points will be automatically awarded to you with the release of Heart of Thorns, allowing you to get started on your Mastery journey right away.”

ScribeTheMad.7614:

Yes, but I realized too late the thousands of exp I was earning doing world completion was going to complete and total waste, and I’m a customer who purchased HoT>
I picked it as something to work on while waiting for HoT, now I feel ripped off for doing it early, everything I do feeling like I’m wasting effort. And all it would take would be to get something, a spirit shard even, for my efforts.

You feeling ripped off is your own doing. They clearly said that experience past level 80 won’t give you anything at the specialisation update a couple months back, but it will give you something then the xpac will come online.

Anet did their job, you just had to read the official news.

Agrotera.1254:

I think some of you either didn’t read the article that was linked or missed a very important part of it.

I quote, “Some Mastery points will come from content that existing players may have already completed, and these Mastery points will be automatically awarded to you with the release of Heart of Thorns, allowing you to get started on your Mastery journey right away.”

Not sure what point you are trying to make since mastery points and mastery exp are not the same.

They need to add some sort of animation for getting level 80. Like a celebration finisher where you chracter goes into a short dance animation and confetti pops out of you with like streamers and a firework..
GZ on 80 Bro!

Monk Tank.5897:

They need to add some sort of animation for getting level 80. Like a celebration finisher where you chracter goes into a short dance animation and confetti pops out of you with like streamers and a firework..
GZ on 80 Bro!

There is the leveling knockback, where leveling knocks back any nearby enemies by several feet. (Especially amusing when melee chars level or when in a big farming group and someone levels and all the mobs you were AoEing get knocked away).