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Posted by: Latinkuro.9420

Latinkuro.9420

You know,
I used to play a game where the community kept asking for build templates all the time
and guess what happened ?

They implemented them in about 3-4 months time.

I’m trying to be more aware of how I phrase things to avoid those annoying infractions !

The community has asked for build templates for the better part of a year now
can we get some kind of update as to how that is going ?

here is a picture of what I think it could end up looking in the UI
http://i42.tinypic.com/103zdph.jpg

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Posted by: Draco.2806

Draco.2806

Good news everyone!

It’s impossible.

Your stats are partially tied to your gear, remember. Gear has fixed stats. So even if they implemented this perfectly sensible and incredibly useful feature, it would only get us part-way there.

“Why not remove stats from gear then and tie them to something else?”

Yeah, that would make sense. What wouldn’t make sense is that then you’d be able to outfit your character in any cool-looking gear you like without buying transmutation stones and introduce some actual cosmetic progression to the game instead of change-your-looks-for-ten-bucks that we have now.

So you see, you have to break the game to make the money. Or at least that’s how many F2P developers think. I think ANet might have made a bit of money by sticking to the promises outlined in their Manifesto, but what do I know?

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

Good news everyone!

It’s impossible.

Your stats are partially tied to your gear, remember. Gear has fixed stats. So even if they implemented this perfectly sensible and incredibly useful feature, it would only get us part-way there.

“Why not remove stats from gear then and tie them to something else?”

Yeah, that would make sense. What wouldn’t make sense is that then you’d be able to outfit your character in any cool-looking gear you like without buying transmutation stones and introduce some actual cosmetic progression to the game instead of change-your-looks-for-ten-bucks that we have now.

So you see, you have to break the game to make the money. Or at least that’s how many F2P developers think. I think ANet might have made a bit of money by sticking to the promises outlined in their Manifesto, but what do I know?

Actually, this will be a full solution for many because once they have Ascended gear, lots of people will probably never play a build that requires gear change again – after all, who wants to grind for a second set of Ascended gear (and most don’t want to feel like they’re “downgrading” their set by switching to exotics).

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Posted by: Latinkuro.9420

Latinkuro.9420

Hmm, guess you guys don’t keep up with gw2 development much….
they already said they will be unifying all gear for one, their won’t be pvp/pve gear anymore, the way they make it sound, gear will probably not have stats anymore !

that’s when a template system comes into full fruition imo.

and even without the gear unification it is still possible,
I’m looking at you draco nay sayer !

yes some stats are tied to gear but seriously now, come on you can swap for example to your WvW set as long as you’re o.o.c the problem is always that you’d have to go to a retrainer and spent the time setting up your traits it’s a bit more time consuming than swapping armor !

if, I had templates saved up a quick build swap would look like this for me.

1 – open hero panel and load setup for WvW 0/20/30/20/0
2 – open inventory or hero panel and swap armor and weapons to WvW set.
3 – Die invaders, here’s my hammer now eat it ! eat it !

and let’s not forget those niche specialized builds most of us have for specific encounters,
it would be awesome to load up an entire trait setup inside a dungeon for a specific Boss fight, for example.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

the way they make it sound, gear will probably not have stats anymore !

Do you have a quote for this because I find it really hard to believe.

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Posted by: Septemptus.7164

Septemptus.7164

The pain is that it has a really low priority.

I know, I would love to have them but CDI seems to be on another track.

Don’t get me wrong CDI is doing really great and there are many things they need to fix so I guess you have to make more noise about it and maybe then more people will vote for that.

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Posted by: GrimHero.5140

GrimHero.5140

Hmm, guess you guys don’t keep up with gw2 development much….
they already said they will be unifying all gear for one, their won’t be pvp/pve gear anymore, the way they make it sound, gear will probably not have stats anymore !

Just when they added ascended armor as an ‘longer term goal’ they are gonna remove its stats.

I can imagine the rage already if they would actually do that.

But considering the entire purpose of ascended armor thats probably not going to happen.

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Posted by: Latinkuro.9420

Latinkuro.9420

I do not presume to know how they will do it
but stats will probably not stay the same as we know them today, otherwise pvp/pve gear unification wouldn’t be possible.
Furthermore, what makes me think something like removing stats from gear will happen is the fact they seem to want to make the pvp closet global for pve/pvp in which case all gear would essentially have to be just a skin you put into the wardrobe.

this idea just hit me

The stats could simply be a drop down menu that let’s you select any stat combo you have previously crafted, and so in effect you would craft the skin and the stats separately.

equip any skin you like best with the stats you like best, the best marriage of great looks and functional stats

EDIT

Even better still, have 2 separate tabs inside the hero panel.
1 for how you want to look that doesn’t have anything to do with your stats.
1 for your stats alone that is not tied to your looks what so ever.

this way, people cannot get mad because stats were removed from gear as they were simply moved not removed.

and we get true gear unification.
which in turn makes it easier for a.net to develop universal build templates.

both worlds win, and everybody is happy.

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Posted by: KratosAngel.7289

KratosAngel.7289

Would also love to know about it …
They said so many months ago it was something they were adressing and that it would be released for sPvP first because much easier but if “easy” is that long, I can’t imagine how long it would take for PvE/WvW … probably many years

Also, I don’t know if it’s included in that but some options to manage inventory/gear would be nice too.
For instance : hey I’m going to open world PvE, I click that button and here’s my Gear 1 equipped.
Ok now I’m going to dungeons, let’s click the other button to have my gear 2 equipped.

If they can’t, just give the opportunity to players to create addons …
Ark Inventory, please make your way through GW2 !

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Posted by: MrDmajor.7084

MrDmajor.7084

My suggestion to the OP is to speak your mind and use the colorful language, they’ll end up moving this thread somewhere else and maybe hit you with an infraction regardless.

ArenaNet does NOT play Guild Wars 2. This can’t be.

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Posted by: Immensus.9732

Immensus.9732

We need them at least for WvW and PvP

Mesmers Shall Rule Tyria!