If you only want to get the Luminescent armor set, consider that the boots is currently not obtainable, because of the meeting the asura challenge mote bug. Other than that there is no reason not to :P
It’s not a sale. It’s a bulk rate for buying more than one at a time. The bulk rate will not likely expire.
Those pointing out the bug are actually doing possible buyers a favor. If they were going to buy the season for the ability to do the achievements and/or get the luminescent armor set, then being told there is a bug preventing 100% completion is something I would rather know about before I buy it. And others who were not aware of what could be gained by doing the achievements or repeating the living story are now able to be informed buyers.
And I’d rather be an informed buyer than not. But that’s just me.
Wynne’s Locket cannot be purchased unless you get all the achievements for Point of No Return. As of right now, it is IMPOSSIBLE to get all achievements for Point of No Return because the challenge mote for Meeting the Asura will not appear. This is a progress blocking bug. The full Luminescent armor is impossible to obtain right now.
Or you know, those concerned about the bug could just be mature and keep the status of the bug updated in, oh, I don’t know, the Bug forum. It’s not like Anet isn’t working on a fix, and we all know what happens when they speak to the forums without a definitive answer, more chaos ensues and everything they said gets twisted. The bulk of the product is still playable, and all Anet is doing is offering a discount on a product that is already for sell.
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The boycott threads were deleted. I had saved the permalinks and just checked them: “Cannot find topic with that permalink!”
I saved them to know which luminescent piece I can’t get.
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Or you know, those concerned about the bug could just be mature and keep the status of the bug updated in, oh, I don’t know, the Bug forum. It’s not like Anet isn’t working on a fix, and we all know what happens when the speak to the forums without a definitive answer, more chaos ensues and everything they said gets twisted. The bulk of the product is still playable, and all Anet is doing is offering a discount on a product that is already for sell.
the bug forum is to let ANET know what bugs exist.
The people who are talking here are trying to let PLAYERS know what they can expect if they buy a product.
This is useful to the general population so they can make an INFORMED purchase. If they choose to buy it or not is up to them, but they should know what is up. And its real dirty, IMO to delete threads that most clearly provided this information, and were most likely to act as a warning to those who might mistakenly buy the product.
The Living World Season 2 Complete Pack has been temporarily removed from the store while we address some technical issues
The Complete Package will be added back just as soon as possible!
Note: You can continue to purchase individual episodes, but you will not get a discount. If you wish to get the discount, please check back a bit later.
This has been suggested and asked for and devs actually listened, wow. +1 ANet.
Of course they listened and executed on it.
Its tied directly to people spending money. same as the mail carriers. Now go find one of the issues on these boards that doesn’t have a solution which can be turned into revenue and see how quickly that has gotten addressed.
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Sorry for the miscommunications here! The Season Two pack was available for a very short time before we discovered a modest issue that required that we pull it from the store. This is a known issue and it was not our intention to continue to sell the item while it was not working as intended. That is why it was pulled.
It will be added back just as soon as possible!
Note: You can continue to purchase individual episodes, but you will not get a discount. If you wish to get the discount, please check back a bit later.
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All you naysayers panicking for no reason. Not to mention, whether you bought it on sale now or later, you will have still bought it at the same price and had the bug fixed at the same time. Bugs happen in this game that we all paid for all the time, it’s a game, it happens, no reason to throw a fit and yell for anarchy.
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This has been suggested and asked for and devs actually listened, wow. +1 ANet.
Of course they listened and executed on it.
Its tied directly to people spending money. same as the mail carriers. Now go find one of the issues on these boards that doesn’t have a solution which can be turned into revenue and see how quickly that has gotten addressed.
They were offering it at a discounted price, they weren’t making extra money off it. In fact, you can still purchase the individual episodes. This fix had nothing to do with revenue.
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This has been suggested and asked for and devs actually listened, wow. +1 ANet.
Of course they listened and executed on it.
Its tied directly to people spending money. same as the mail carriers. Now go find one of the issues on these boards that doesn’t have a solution which can be turned into revenue and see how quickly that has gotten addressed.
They were offering it at a discounted price, they weren’t making extra money off it. In fact, you can still purchase the individual episodes. This fix had nothing to do with revenue.
Someone who gets it!
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It’s the chain I beat you with until you
recognize my command!”
This has been suggested and asked for and devs actually listened, wow. +1 ANet.
Of course they listened and executed on it.
Its tied directly to people spending money. same as the mail carriers. Now go find one of the issues on these boards that doesn’t have a solution which can be turned into revenue and see how quickly that has gotten addressed.
They were offering it at a discounted price, they weren’t making extra money off it. In fact, you can still purchase the individual episodes. This fix had nothing to do with revenue.
because people would have a legitimate claim for a full refund if any part of it was broken.
instead of having to deal with extra customer service, backlash, refunds, chargebacks, (which cost money) its better to have it working, or at least not blocked.
selling individual episodes, has less problems because its a smaller purchase, and some of the episodes have no issues.
The Living World Season 2 Complete Pack was available for a very short time before we discovered a modest issue that required that we pull it from the store. This known issue will be addressed because naturally we do not intend to continue to sell the item while it is not working as intended.
The Complete Package will be added back just as soon as possible!
Note: You can continue to purchase individual episodes, but you will not get a discount. If you wish to get the discount, please check back a bit later.
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And how much money did your company rake in during the short time it was available for sale even though KNOWN issues had been clearly brought up on the forum in the past? It’s not like these bugs are new, Gaile.
Where are my gem sales? I want gem sales! Nerf EVERYTHING!
She never said it got pulled because it the mote bug.
the implication is that even if it wasnt the mote bug, the mote bug would constitute a reason to pull it on its own.
This known issue will be addressed because naturally we do not intend to continue to sell the item while it is not working as intended.
Its a known issue
it causes the content not to work as intended.
if they put it back on sale with the mote broken, it would be illogical, based on the aforementioned reasoning.
which isnt to say its impossible, but unlikely.
and its also likely that it is the issue, because whatever it is has to be a previously known issue, not a new issue created (or she would have said a new issue) that causes it not to work as intended
And how much money did your company rake in during the short time it was available for sale even though KNOWN issues had been clearly brought up on the forum in the past? It’s not like these bugs are new, Gaile.
Probably less money than they do from people buying them individually for a higher price?
She never said it got pulled because it the mote bug.
the implication is that even if it wasnt the mote bug, the mote bug would constitute a reason to pull it on its own.
Its a known issue
it causes the content not to work as intended.
Not really. It’s just a single achievement. The vast 99% of the season is working as intended. And based on the post below this one, it was pulled before people started complaining about it on the forums.
And how much money did your company rake in during the short time it was available for sale even though KNOWN issues had been clearly brought up on the forum in the past? It’s not like these bugs are new, Gaile.
I was in-game starting right when the patch went in, and I never even saw the item on the store. Shortly after the patch went in, the entire TP (including the gem store) stopped working, too. So, I doubt they made much money (if they made anything).
She never said it got pulled because it the mote bug.
the implication is that even if it wasnt the mote bug, the mote bug would constitute a reason to pull it on its own.
Its a known issue
it causes the content not to work as intended.
Not really. It’s just a single achievement. The vast 99% of the season is working as intended.
when they are sold seperate, its not a big issue, when they are sold together it is a big issue for the product.
Lets say you go to a movie, and 4 minutes at the end blanks out.
that is grounds for a refund of the full movie.
yes, i know this because it has happened.
the fact that it may only be 1/20th of the movie missing is irrelevant. The product as a whole is not functional with that 1/20th missing.
She never said it got pulled because it the mote bug.
the implication is that even if it wasnt the mote bug, the mote bug would constitute a reason to pull it on its own.
Its a known issue
it causes the content not to work as intended.
Not really. It’s just a single achievement. The vast 99% of the season is working as intended.
when they are sold seperate, its not a big issue, when they are sold together it is a big issue for the product.
Lets say you go to a movie, and 4 minutes at the end blanks out.
that is grounds for a refund of the full movie.
yes, i know this because it has happened.
the fact that it may only be 1/20th of the movie missing is irrelevant. The product as a whole is not functional with that 1/20th missing.
So if they have a bug preventing people from completing the diving achievement, they should not sell the game? Also, it seems that this was pulled well before the two complain threads were created.
They were offering it at a discounted price, they weren’t making extra money off it. In fact, you can still purchase the individual episodes. This fix had nothing to do with revenue.
Someone who gets it!
Not really.
The discount entices those that never had any intention of buying. How many times have people bought cheap games during the steam sale they otherwise wouldn’t have, only to never play those games?
Any kind of sale is still a sale.
I own so many games I’ve never gotten around to playing due to those steam sales.
She never said it got pulled because it the mote bug.
the implication is that even if it wasnt the mote bug, the mote bug would constitute a reason to pull it on its own.
Its a known issue
it causes the content not to work as intended.
Not really. It’s just a single achievement. The vast 99% of the season is working as intended.
when they are sold seperate, its not a big issue, when they are sold together it is a big issue for the product.
Lets say you go to a movie, and 4 minutes at the end blanks out.
that is grounds for a refund of the full movie.
yes, i know this because it has happened.
the fact that it may only be 1/20th of the movie missing is irrelevant. The product as a whole is not functional with that 1/20th missing.
So if they have a bug preventing people from completing the diving achievement, they should not sell the game? Also, it seems that this was pulled well before the two complain threads were created.
Its seems that people will complain about anything and everything.
Anet puts out LS2 at a discounted rate.
“Anet is is greedy, this is nothing more than a money grubbing scheme to take your monies!!!!11”
“Its bugged and a rip off!!! Anet hates you and just wants your money! Don’t buy it!!”
Anet pulls it from the gem store.
“Anet just wants our money!! They removed it because then they’ll have to give refunds!!!”
“Its bugged and they don’t listen to us!!!”
“Anet suxx”
“You know what the chain of command is?
It’s the chain I beat you with until you
recognize my command!”
She never said it got pulled because it the mote bug.
the implication is that even if it wasnt the mote bug, the mote bug would constitute a reason to pull it on its own.
Its a known issue
it causes the content not to work as intended.
Not really. It’s just a single achievement. The vast 99% of the season is working as intended.
when they are sold seperate, its not a big issue, when they are sold together it is a big issue for the product.
Lets say you go to a movie, and 4 minutes at the end blanks out.
that is grounds for a refund of the full movie.
yes, i know this because it has happened.
the fact that it may only be 1/20th of the movie missing is irrelevant. The product as a whole is not functional with that 1/20th missing.
So if they have a bug preventing people from completing the diving achievement, they should not sell the game? Also, it seems that this was pulled well before the two complain threads were created.
your sense of scale is totally off.
main purpose of LS is story, and the achievement based rewards/challenges. Its actually more about the achievement based rewards/chalenges than the story, since your friends can take you on story missions.
the fact that the end reward of an entire release (1/7th) is not available is not of similar scale to the diving achievements in comparison with the whole entire game of gw2.
She never said it got pulled because it the mote bug.
the implication is that even if it wasnt the mote bug, the mote bug would constitute a reason to pull it on its own.
Its a known issue
it causes the content not to work as intended.
Not really. It’s just a single achievement. The vast 99% of the season is working as intended.
when they are sold seperate, its not a big issue, when they are sold together it is a big issue for the product.
Lets say you go to a movie, and 4 minutes at the end blanks out.
that is grounds for a refund of the full movie.
yes, i know this because it has happened.
the fact that it may only be 1/20th of the movie missing is irrelevant. The product as a whole is not functional with that 1/20th missing.
So if they have a bug preventing people from completing the diving achievement, they should not sell the game? Also, it seems that this was pulled well before the two complain threads were created.
your sense of scale is totally off.
main purpose of LS is story, and the achievement based rewards/challenges. Its actually more about the achievement based rewards/chalenges than the story, since your friends can take you on story missions.
the fact that the end reward of an entire release (1/7th) is not available is not of similar scale to the diving achievements in comparison with the whole entire game of gw2.
It’s just one single achievement. The purpose of the diving one was to show how small they are compared to what was released. You can still enjoy 99% of the season until they resolve the bug affecting the mote.
She never said it got pulled because it the mote bug.
the implication is that even if it wasnt the mote bug, the mote bug would constitute a reason to pull it on its own.
Its a known issue
it causes the content not to work as intended.
Not really. It’s just a single achievement. The vast 99% of the season is working as intended.
when they are sold seperate, its not a big issue, when they are sold together it is a big issue for the product.
Lets say you go to a movie, and 4 minutes at the end blanks out.
that is grounds for a refund of the full movie.
yes, i know this because it has happened.
the fact that it may only be 1/20th of the movie missing is irrelevant. The product as a whole is not functional with that 1/20th missing.
So if they have a bug preventing people from completing the diving achievement, they should not sell the game? Also, it seems that this was pulled well before the two complain threads were created.
Its seems that people will complain about anything and everything.
Anet puts out LS2 at a discounted rate.
“Anet is is greedy, this is nothing more than a money grubbing scheme to take your monies!!!!11”
“Its bugged and a rip off!!! Anet hates you and just wants your money! Don’t buy it!!”
Anet pulls it from the gem store.
“Anet just wants our money!! They removed it because then they’ll have to give refunds!!!”
“Its bugged and they don’t listen to us!!!”
“Anet suxx”
you really arent saying anything here.
anet pulled it from the gemstore, until its working properly, i am fine with that, that is the logical thing to do and a good business decision. Me explaining why it is a business decision (good for business) is not a complaint.
If i was going to say “anet suxx” the reason would be because they were not aware enough of their own bugs an issues, to properly prioritize either the fix, or deprioritize the release of the collected edition.
Now, what the original person complaining was pointing out, is that problems related to money get faster fixes, which is true, for obvious reasons. I dont think there is anything that can be done about that, but i can see why it may be seen as a problem.
The purpose of the diving one was to show how small they are compared to what was released.
What a poor example.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
She never said it got pulled because it the mote bug.
the implication is that even if it wasnt the mote bug, the mote bug would constitute a reason to pull it on its own.
Its a known issue
it causes the content not to work as intended.
Not really. It’s just a single achievement. The vast 99% of the season is working as intended.
when they are sold seperate, its not a big issue, when they are sold together it is a big issue for the product.
Lets say you go to a movie, and 4 minutes at the end blanks out.
that is grounds for a refund of the full movie.
yes, i know this because it has happened.
the fact that it may only be 1/20th of the movie missing is irrelevant. The product as a whole is not functional with that 1/20th missing.
So if they have a bug preventing people from completing the diving achievement, they should not sell the game? Also, it seems that this was pulled well before the two complain threads were created.
your sense of scale is totally off.
main purpose of LS is story, and the achievement based rewards/challenges. Its actually more about the achievement based rewards/chalenges than the story, since your friends can take you on story missions.
the fact that the end reward of an entire release (1/7th) is not available is not of similar scale to the diving achievements in comparison with the whole entire game of gw2.
It’s just one single achievement. The purpose of the diving one was to show how small they are compared to what was released. You can still enjoy 99% of the season until they resolve the bug affecting the mote.
its one achievement that is required for getting the final achievement for that whole release. that makes so the whole release is considered to be broken. Very much like if you buy a lego car, and its missing one of the wheels.
that release is 1/7th of the content they are packaging together.
to use my other analogy, now its like that lego set missing a wheel is packaged in a racecar series mega pack with 7 cars.
that one wheel may only be one peice out 4000, but it blocks you from making one of the 7 cars, which makes the racecar series deal essentially broken.
the diving achievement is not the main purpose of the game. The main advantage of actually buying LS packs is to be able to complete the achievements and get the items (since you can experience the story without buying it)
and yes you can return a lego set if only one peice is missing, because it stops you from completing the lego item.
What happen today damage Arena net (company) and us players (customers) relationship a lot. It was not nice at all: it was dishonest. So i have a suggestion that will help fix our relationship a little more: prevent us players from purchasing episodes entirely until all problems (bugs) involve are fix.
What do you think?
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What happen today damage Arena net (company) and us players (customers) relationship a lot. It was not nice at all: it was dishonest. So i have a suggestion: prevent us players from purchasing the episodes entirely until problems (bugs) are fix.
honestly a warning of known issues would more than suffice.
She never said it got pulled because it the mote bug.
the implication is that even if it wasnt the mote bug, the mote bug would constitute a reason to pull it on its own.
Its a known issue
it causes the content not to work as intended.
Not really. It’s just a single achievement. The vast 99% of the season is working as intended.
when they are sold seperate, its not a big issue, when they are sold together it is a big issue for the product.
Lets say you go to a movie, and 4 minutes at the end blanks out.
that is grounds for a refund of the full movie.
yes, i know this because it has happened.
the fact that it may only be 1/20th of the movie missing is irrelevant. The product as a whole is not functional with that 1/20th missing.
So if they have a bug preventing people from completing the diving achievement, they should not sell the game? Also, it seems that this was pulled well before the two complain threads were created.
Its seems that people will complain about anything and everything.
Anet puts out LS2 at a discounted rate.
“Anet is is greedy, this is nothing more than a money grubbing scheme to take your monies!!!!11”
“Its bugged and a rip off!!! Anet hates you and just wants your money! Don’t buy it!!”
Anet pulls it from the gem store.
“Anet just wants our money!! They removed it because then they’ll have to give refunds!!!”
“Its bugged and they don’t listen to us!!!”
“Anet suxx”
you really arent saying anything here.
anet pulled it from the gemstore, until its working properly, i am fine with that, that is the logical thing to do and a good business decision. Me explaining why it is a business decision (good for business) is not a complaint.
If i was going to say “anet suxx” the reason would be because they were not aware enough of their own bugs an issues, to properly prioritize either the fix, or deprioritize the release of the collected edition.
Now, what the original person complaining was pointing out, is that problems related to money get faster fixes, which is true, for obvious reasons. I dont think there is anything that can be done about that, but i can see why it may be seen as a problem.
I wasn’t referring specifically to you. But generally to some of the posts about the reasons it was pulled.
I agree that it shouldn’t be sold until the bugs are fixed. But the claim that Anet doesn’t do anything about bugs until it effects their bottom line really has no merit. Its based on the idea that Anet is a greedy and corrupt company that doesn’t care about their players or their game, and only money. Which in all my dealings with Anet has shown the opposite to be true. However, they ARE a business, and the main reason for any business to exist is to make money. Period. That doesn’t make them a bad company in any way shape or form. Nor does it make them greedy or corrupt. While those things weren’t said outright, it was strongly implied.
It’s those types of sentiments and ideas that bother me the most. It goes deeper than that, and carries the connotation that anyone who seeks to make money or profit from a product is somehow a bad person. Which in turn suggests that if I am seeking better paying employment to better take care of my family, than somehow I am a bad person for doing so, because I am contributing to the perception of a financial gap between the “haves” and the “have nots”. And to me that is not ok. And don’t tolerate such things, and feel compelled to speak out against it.
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It’s the chain I beat you with until you
recognize my command!”
It’s prorated based on the number of episodes you missed plus a 20% discount.
There are certain items available only from these LS episodes like Mawdrey.
The story leads into HoT.
Unlike LWS1, these can be replayed and played with new characters. A marked improvement over you’ve missed it too bad.
We don’t know how limited a time this package deal is.
Don’t let the few angry naysayers who are upset about a bug cause you to miss out on this sale.
its not a sale, it is a new product.
be aware the some of the challenges/achievements are broken, so you will not be able to get the final rewards
Yes it’s a new item in the store, or was until they fix whatever problem they are having, see new patch notes. Also it’s a sale over the price you pay to unlock them from the story screen. And since you can rerun them you can always go back and do the fixed version.
Thank you for the update, Gaile. I was looking forward to something like this to catch up on Lore. I will wait until the Season pack is available in the Gem Store. Much thanks
It’s prorated based on the number of episodes you missed plus a 20% discount.
There are certain items available only from these LS episodes like Mawdrey.
The story leads into HoT.
Unlike LWS1, these can be replayed and played with new characters. A marked improvement over you’ve missed it too bad.
We don’t know how limited a time this package deal is.
Don’t let the few angry naysayers who are upset about a bug cause you to miss out on this sale.
its not a sale, it is a new product.
be aware the some of the challenges/achievements are broken, so you will not be able to get the final rewards
Yes it’s a new item in the store, or was until they fix whatever problem they are having, see new patch notes. Also it’s a sale over the price you pay to unlock them from the story screen. And since you can rerun them you can always go back and do the fixed version.
Stop being so pedantic about it.
its not about pedanticness.
a Sale for most people represents a limited time event. Something where you get a special discount, but only for a limited time.
A discount for purchasing more at once does not carry the same connations as a sale. because it is not limited.
basically sale = act now
discount = meet whatever requirements are required for the discount.
your post would have been confusing to many people, in fact it seemed to be suggesting people should act now, or miss out on the sale, as opposed to just telling them there is a package deal available now.
The purpose of the diving one was to show how small they are compared to what was released.
What a poor example.
Not really a hyperbole as it’s affect on the overall game is relatively the same as the mote bugs on the season. That was the point. You’re also confusing me with someone else as I don’t remember feigning disinterest nor have I posted walls of text.
