Buying or Crafting?
Price for crafting depends on what you naturally get while out in the world doing things like the Map Completion or the Dungeon mode for the tokens (assuming you don’t buy runs). Or that you get through the creation of the Mystic Clovers.
Or what you’ve collected between when you started playing and when you decided to go for a legendary.
I’m crafting my own Meteorlogicus (dungeon part will be the death of me, I can’t work up the courage to either ask my guild or post an LFG for it and I don’t have the skills to solo the dungeon, and I won’t buy a run. And PvP is a no.).
I figure there’s no point buying any of the items until:
1. I have the precursor.
2. I have the dungeon tokens.
3. I have all of the Mystic Clovers (the recipe for Mystic Clovers can also generate t6 mats, of which you need 250 of at least 4 of them).
4. I have map completion done. Salvaging and raw drops will yield some of those items or their raw materials.
Of those 4, I only have map completion done. And I’m 10 clovers away from having 77 mystic clovers.
Gift of Energy requires 250 piles of incandescent dust. When I made my intentions clear, my brother dumped what incandescent dust he had to me. At least up to what brought me to 250.
Through time and mystic clover production, I have managed to also get the 250 orichalcum ingots needed for the Gift of Weather, which is used as part of the Gift of Meteorlogicus. 250 orichalcum ingots cost right now 20g 87s 50c. I got mine for free. Less the cost to work Artificer up enough to refine orichalcum. But I needed Articifer to get to level 400 anyway.
It’s expensive either way. Either through opening the wallet to spend real money, grinding to get gold in game, or spending the time to farm everything yourself. It mostly just comes down to what currency you want to spend on it. Time, in game money, real life money, or a combination of the three.
Edited to clarify. Edited again to fix error in example.
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Very detailed post above and should help you out but also remember that the new expansion will give new legendaries, and new ways to obtain legendaries so might be a good idea to try the crafting route just so you have some mats in case you like any of the new ones.
Buying or crafting, you have to farm either way. Gold, materials, karma, skill points, wvw badges. Ask yourself if you are ready to do map completion, that including wvw, and run like 6 times a specific dungeon. If you are an adventurer, craft the first one. If not, place a buying offer and wait for a poor desperate to sell for a little price.
Buying or crafting, you have to farm either way. Gold, materials, karma, skill points, wvw badges. Ask yourself if you are ready to do map completion, that including wvw, and run like 6 times a specific dungeon. If you are an adventurer, craft the first one. If not, place a buying offer and wait for a poor desperate to sell for a little price.
You have to run a dungeon explorable path 9 times in total (story mode doesn’t count). However, only 8 of them have to be done for the first time that day. You get 20 tokens for each path no matter how many times you do it each day. You get 40 bonus tokens the first time you do a path on a given day. 500 total tokens needed to get the Gift of Dungeon. 500/60 is 8.33333. 500×8 is 480. 20 shy of 500. So 8 runs have to be the first run of the path per day. The 9th and final can be a repeat if desired.
So:
Day 1 – P1, P2, & P3
Day 2 – P1, P2, & P3
Day 3 – P1, P2, & P2
Or you can do a whole bunch of PvP matches while following the appropriate dungeon reward track. Takes a lot of matches though to fill up one track and one go through only nets you 240 tokens.
I had Dusk drop from the MF. Before that, I was never on the radar to have a legendary. So, I carefully bought and sold what I needed to craft Twilight.
After making it, I held on to the GS for about a week before I decided to sell it.
Why did I sell it? I prefer the Sunrise skin.
For Twilight, I had almost everything I needed, once I got map completion, so it only cost me about 300g total to build.
I sold Twilight, bought Dawn(at 55g less than the lowest asking price), then had to purchase 2/3 of the materials. Accidentally bought the wrong lodestones, duh.
Completely wiped out my Karma.
However, my net profit, after building Sunrise was about 1500g.
So, all in all, I came out ahead, by crafting it instead of straight buying it.
But like someone before mentioned, a mistake I made when I made Twilight, was that I purchased my materials before I attempted to make Mystic Clovers. Granted it worked out in the end, when I needed them for Sunrise.
Make the Mystic Clovers first… then purchase the mats.
Had I just purchased Sunrise out right(at the time) I would have only had a few hundred gold to spare.
I had Dusk drop from the MF. Before that, I was never on the radar to have a legendary. So, I carefully bought and sold what I needed to craft Twilight.
After making it, I held on to the GS for about a week before I decided to sell it.
Why did I sell it? I prefer the Sunrise skin.
For Twilight, I had almost everything I needed, once I got map completion, so it only cost me about 300g total to build.
I sold Twilight, bought Dawn(at 55g less than the lowest asking price), then had to purchase 2/3 of the materials. Accidentally bought the wrong lodestones, duh.
Completely wiped out my Karma.
However, my net profit, after building Sunrise was about 1500g.
So, all in all, I came out ahead, by crafting it instead of straight buying it.
But like someone before mentioned, a mistake I made when I made Twilight, was that I purchased my materials before I attempted to make Mystic Clovers. Granted it worked out in the end, when I needed them for Sunrise.
Make the Mystic Clovers first… then purchase the mats.
Do everything that could yield you the mats you need before you buy them. Map completion, dungeons, farming for gold to buy precursor (either via TP or for exotics/rares to mystic forge). The dungeon I need for Meteorlogicus is Crucible of Eternity. I need charged lodestones. CoE mobs can drop charged lodestones.
As to mystic forge or trading post for the precursor, I personally will be saving up money to buy off the trading post. But on days with Mystic Forger as a daily, I’ll buy 4 exotic level 80 scepters to gamble. Or doing the collection with HoT. But that will depend on what that entails.
If you have the karma and world completion already, it is cheaper to craft it yourself. The cost varies. i can tell you that every legendary weapon sells for well more than it’s actual cost.
There’s an opportunity cost associated if you’re starting from scratch in regards to karma and world completion. This is something I’ve seen many ignore when analyzing situation on what may be better such as skill point conversions. For some legendaries, it would have been more cost effective sell all of the materials, buy the legendary, and use the time that you would have spent farming karma and doing world completion by farming gold instead.
@Seera
I think you meant crystalline dust for gift of fortune. Incandescent is used for the legendary gifts (e.g. Gift of energy).
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If you have the karma and world completion already, it is cheaper to craft it yourself. The cost varies. i can tell you that every legendary weapon sells for well more than it’s actual cost.
There’s an opportunity cost associated if you’re starting from scratch in regards to karma and world completion. This is something I’ve seen many ignore when analyzing situation on what may be better such as skill point conversions. For some legendaries, it would have been more cost effective sell all of the materials, buy the legendary, and use the time that you would have spent farming karma and doing world completion by farming gold instead.
@Seera
I think you meant crystalline dust for gift of fortune. Incandescent is used for the legendary gifts (e.g. Gift of energy).
Quite possibly. I’ll go edit that. It was late when I wrote it and there are just so many gifts out there XD
Crafting is far cheaper if you gather materials of course.
I crafted Twilight. However I had to buy the precursor Dusk. There was no other way to reliably get it. I had spent countless hundreds in weapons to throw in the toilet, got no precursor. Been playing since early release, play regularly, no Dusk drop (no precursor drop ever actually).
So right off the bat you have that as a cost, which has been dropping which is nice.
Then you have 100g for the frost shard things (need 100, 1g each at a vendor, only way to get them, but it varies for each legendary naturally).
Then of course T6 mats and lodestones. If you just buy mats on the TP this is where your major expense will come from. If you have the patience, you can try to farm them, or do what I did and just save up my laurels to convert. Takes time but it is stead progress. Plus eventually one particular mat will hit 250 before the others, so whenever you get more of those you can instantly sell them and use the money for the mats you do need.
Farming for the lodestone requirement will make you want to kill yourself. Odds are those will need to bought from TP, so start saving. When I would make a string of cash from dungeon runs, I would buy lodestones with it. Eventually I had enough.
Outside of that, the rest is fairly easy to get together.
It’s a medical condition, they say its terminal….
Seera:
“As to mystic forge or trading post for the precursor, I personally will be saving up money to buy off the trading post. But on days with Mystic Forger as a daily, I’ll buy 4 exotic level 80 scepters to gamble. Or doing the collection with HoT. But that will depend on what that entails.”
Draknar:
“I crafted Twilight. However I had to buy the precursor Dusk. There was no other way to reliably get it. I had spent countless hundreds in weapons to throw in the toilet, got no precursor. Been playing since early release, play regularly, no Dusk drop (no precursor drop ever actually.”
Don’t get me wrong, I am not a MF gambler in the sense of dumping loads of stuff into it. I just happened to have some exotics and figured why not… and surprise! Which, of course, would explain why I bought Dawn instead of dumping exotics down the MF.
I was not even looking for it to drop, totally expected to receive the same basic stuff out of it. No one should ever think the MF is a reliable way to get precursors..
Seera:
“As to mystic forge or trading post for the precursor, I personally will be saving up money to buy off the trading post. But on days with Mystic Forger as a daily, I’ll buy 4 exotic level 80 scepters to gamble. Or doing the collection with HoT. But that will depend on what that entails.”
Draknar:
“I crafted Twilight. However I had to buy the precursor Dusk. There was no other way to reliably get it. I had spent countless hundreds in weapons to throw in the toilet, got no precursor. Been playing since early release, play regularly, no Dusk drop (no precursor drop ever actually.”Don’t get me wrong, I am not a MF gambler in the sense of dumping loads of stuff into it. I just happened to have some exotics and figured why not… and surprise! Which, of course, would explain why I bought Dawn instead of dumping exotics down the MF.
I was not even looking for it to drop, totally expected to receive the same basic stuff out of it. No one should ever think the MF is a reliable way to get precursors..
I’m fully expecting to buy it off of the trading post. Or through the collection released via HoT.
But hey, might as well try a few times just to say I did.