Can some one show us a link to a quote from a dev that says “Ascended gear will have better stats than exotics?” Because so far all I am seeing is speculation.
…but you can’t change those stats. We don’t know what the infusions are. She said they’re going to upgrade legendaries in some fashion. There honestly isn’t any treadmill proof. The devs said they’re really there for the fractal dungeon, which is a whole new mode of play. I really can’t see why everyone on these forums is freaking out about it, to be honest.
Can some one show us a link to a quote from a dev that says “Ascended gear will have better stats than exotics?” Because so far all I am seeing is speculation.
They also never said that ascended gear would continually get better throughout the content patches, from what we can ascertain from that article it is just another rarity of item that will be used to determine the difficulty tuning of new dungeons. It’s no more of a gear treadmill/grind than getting cosmetic skins from dungeon vendors when you could have just crafted it.
The devs said they’re really there for the fractal dungeon, which is a whole new mode of play. I really can’t see why everyone on these forums is freaking out about it, to be honest.
Chances are, Ascended gear can be used in WvW like any other piece of PvE gear. Of course, they could very well make it so it’s not – we do not know yet.
The devs said they’re really there for the fractal dungeon, which is a whole new mode of play. I really can’t see why everyone on these forums is freaking out about it, to be honest.
Chances are, Ascended gear can be used in WvW like any other piece of PvE gear. Of course, they could very well make it so it’s not – we do not know yet.
Uh oh, better watch out for that warrior with the extra 5 precision, I heard he can one shot people with just one auto-attack!
from the front page there’s only a 5 stat difference per stat and 3% magic find(for those two rings). Not much of a gear treadmill. I’d be worried a bit if it was 3% crit damage on increase, But this seems harmless.
The devs said they’re really there for the fractal dungeon, which is a whole new mode of play. I really can’t see why everyone on these forums is freaking out about it, to be honest.
Chances are, Ascended gear can be used in WvW like any other piece of PvE gear. Of course, they could very well make it so it’s not – we do not know yet.
Uh oh, better watch out for that warrior with the extra 5 precision, I heard he can one shot people with just one auto-attack!
All gear treadmills start this way, have you played Age of Conan lately? Another game that was supposed to be about skill, not gear.
The devs said they’re really there for the fractal dungeon, which is a whole new mode of play. I really can’t see why everyone on these forums is freaking out about it, to be honest.
Chances are, Ascended gear can be used in WvW like any other piece of PvE gear. Of course, they could very well make it so it’s not – we do not know yet.
Uh oh, better watch out for that warrior with the extra 5 precision, I heard he can one shot people with just one auto-attack!
All gear treadmills start this way, have you played Age of Conan lately? Another game that was supposed to be about skill, not gear.
Why did you make a calm and reasoned response to this snark? Now you take away all my fun.
Edit for on topic response:
Jrunyon: An extra 5 precision is an extra 5 precision too much. Gear progression ruins competitive WvW gameplay.
The devs said they’re really there for the fractal dungeon, which is a whole new mode of play. I really can’t see why everyone on these forums is freaking out about it, to be honest.
Chances are, Ascended gear can be used in WvW like any other piece of PvE gear. Of course, they could very well make it so it’s not – we do not know yet.
Uh oh, better watch out for that warrior with the extra 5 precision, I heard he can one shot people with just one auto-attack!
All gear treadmills start this way, have you played Age of Conan lately? Another game that was supposed to be about skill, not gear.
Why did you make a calm and reasoned response to this snark? Now you take away all my fun.
LoL, well at least the forums might still be fun, atleast until I get banned, like I did in D3.
from the front page there’s only a 5 stat difference per stat and 3% magic find(for those two rings). Not much of a gear treadmill. I’d be worried a bit if it was 3% crit damage on increase, But this seems harmless.
Why add a new item tier at all then if it’s so negligible? Why not just add infusion slots to current exotics and legendaries and call it a day?
They are switching the design of the game to be driven by gear progression and they needed to start somewhere. Obviously the first stat increase is going to be small otherwise it’ll trivialize the current content. Eventually, though, if they continue with gear progression, the current content will become pointless.
from the front page there’s only a 5 stat difference per stat and 3% magic find(for those two rings). Not much of a gear treadmill. I’d be worried a bit if it was 3% crit damage on increase, But this seems harmless.
Why add a new item tier at all then if it’s so negligible? Why not just add infusion slots to current exotics and legendaries and call it a day?
They are switching the design of the game to be driven by gear progression and they needed to start somewhere. Obviously the first stat increase is going to be small otherwise it’ll trivialize the current content. Eventually, though, if they continue with gear progression, the current content will become pointless.
Because maybe it’s easier to create new armor/ jewelry with some slight differences than go through all the previous armor files and change those? Seriously if they didn’t do something slightly new lots of people would complain. I will cry foul if a real gear treadmill starts, but 5 stats is nothing. It just shows a small sign that “hey we’d like you to try for something new and there’s a tiny incentive in it.” Also nothing is trivialized, what if the ascended items only have maybe 1 or 2 set stats that someone else might want differently. Say if it only offered a better knights and carrion, but someone wants berserker. We don’t have enough information to be boo hooing over new stuff yet. Lets just wait and see what happens then change the bad stuff if it goes wrong. Anet reads feedback.
Edit: heck it’s only jewelry so far, the only people “hurt” by this would be jewelers, since you can’t get dungeon jewelry(other than rare drop).
This is far more than 5 stats more. The example ring was deceitful and chosen exactly for that reason. Explorer gear main stat is magic find so you do not see how much of an increase in the main stat is gotten through the new item tier, you only see the increase to the two secondary stats.
Because maybe it’s easier to create new armor/ jewelry with some slight differences than go through all the previous armor files and change those? Seriously if they didn’t do something slightly new lots of people would complain. I will cry foul if a real gear treadmill starts, but 5 stats is nothing. It just shows a small sign that “hey we’d like you to try for something new and there’s a tiny incentive in it.” Also nothing is trivialized, what if the ascended items only have maybe 1 or 2 set stats that someone else might want differently. Say if it only offered a better knights and carrion, but someone wants berserker. We don’t have enough information to be boo hooing over new stuff yet. Lets just wait and see what happens then change the bad stuff if it goes wrong. Anet reads feedback.
Edit: heck it’s only jewelry so far, the only people “hurt” by this would be jewelers, since you can’t get dungeon jewelry(other than rare drop).
So wait, you’re honestly trying to tell me that it’s easier to create and balance brand new items, including the art assets, rather than just adding an additional slot to an existing item?
Right now it’s only jewelery and back slots but they do plan to release new items for all slots. Going by their blog post, they intent to continue with gear progression which is basically a fancy way of saying “gear treadmill.”
Because maybe it’s easier to create new armor/ jewelry with some slight differences than go through all the previous armor files and change those? Seriously if they didn’t do something slightly new lots of people would complain. I will cry foul if a real gear treadmill starts, but 5 stats is nothing. It just shows a small sign that “hey we’d like you to try for something new and there’s a tiny incentive in it.” Also nothing is trivialized, what if the ascended items only have maybe 1 or 2 set stats that someone else might want differently. Say if it only offered a better knights and carrion, but someone wants berserker. We don’t have enough information to be boo hooing over new stuff yet. Lets just wait and see what happens then change the bad stuff if it goes wrong. Anet reads feedback.
Edit: heck it’s only jewelry so far, the only people “hurt” by this would be jewelers, since you can’t get dungeon jewelry(other than rare drop).
So wait, you’re honestly trying to tell me that it’s easier to create and balance brand new items, including the art assets, rather than just adding an additional slot to an existing item?
Right now it’s only jewelery and back slots but they do plan to release new items for all slots. Going by their blog post, they intent to continue with gear progression which is basically a fancy way of saying “gear treadmill.”
lets see, recreate a slot for every exotic from dungeons, wvw, karma vendors, and crafted stuff. Or make maybe 1 or 2 sets. Would be a lot easier and still serves as new content. Again we don’t have enough information to support your gear trend slippery slope fallacy. It may only affect dungeons and it might not even touch wvw. All i’m saying is wait and see what happens. It’s like how everyone was pissed at Anet for doing the first one time thing in lions arch for the mad king and it was a cut scene for 10-30 seconds. Might not even be that different.
The devs said they’re really there for the fractal dungeon, which is a whole new mode of play. I really can’t see why everyone on these forums is freaking out about it, to be honest.
Chances are, Ascended gear can be used in WvW like any other piece of PvE gear. Of course, they could very well make it so it’s not – we do not know yet.
Not is unlikely, since you can’t be keeping a special exotic gear for WvW. Yes, much is unknown and people just have to try and see.
