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Posted by: GOSU.9574

GOSU.9574

They are robbing rare drop slots from chests and serve no purpose other than that…

Hey dude you are walking into a wall.

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Posted by: CryxTryx.9208

CryxTryx.9208

I know they drop in a chest and have yellow text but that doesn’t mean that if you get a support ticket you would have otherwise rolled a rare.

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Posted by: LinkR.6190

LinkR.6190

Wait, they are still dropping? I have yet to even see one. You might want to report where and how you got it. Pretty sure that’s a bug. Also, like Cryx said, they do not override you chances of getting a rare. They just give your hopes up every time is all.

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Posted by: khani.4786

khani.4786

They’ve been in every single chest I’ve opened and would really like them to go away. It’s bad enough we have a giant red-eyed evil Kiel holograph in LA, but to keep getting support tickets just makes me sad. >.>

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Posted by: Im Mudbone.1437

Im Mudbone.1437

Yes, they are STILL dropping and they ARE robbing us of the rare drop in that spot because they ARE considered as a rare drop(nothing rare about them, they should be WHITES), just like the new bags that are now dropping deemed as a rares and exotics which in my humblest of opinions are all GARBAGE.

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Posted by: CryxTryx.9208

CryxTryx.9208

Yes, they are STILL dropping and they ARE robbing us of the rare drop in that spot because they ARE considered as a rare drop(nothing rare about them, they should be WHITES), just like the new bags that are now dropping deemed as a rares and exotics which in my humblest of opinions are all GARBAGE.

What is your source on this. I don’t think you know this for sure, and I am pretty sure you are just plain wrong.

They are not on the same loot table as the normal rare drop. You can tell this simply at the frequency at which they drop.

They are just an extra drop, just like Kite Fortunes. Kite Fortunes dropped the same way and did not override a rare loot drop.

They are still worth money, just vendor them.

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Posted by: Im Mudbone.1437

Im Mudbone.1437

Yes, they are STILL dropping and they ARE robbing us of the rare drop in that spot because they ARE considered as a rare drop(nothing rare about them, they should be WHITES), just like the new bags that are now dropping deemed as a rares and exotics which in my humblest of opinions are all GARBAGE.

What is your source on this. I don’t think you know this for sure, and I am pretty sure you are just plain wrong.

They are not on the same loot table as the normal rare drop. You can tell this simply at the frequency at which they drop.

They are just an extra drop, just like Kite Fortunes. Kite Fortunes dropped the same way and did not override a rare loot drop.

They are still worth money, just vendor them.

You know those wooden and steel chests that spawn? They are designated for rare(wooden chests) and exotics(steel chests) and have been for several months now, look it up.

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Posted by: CryxTryx.9208

CryxTryx.9208

Several months until they started putting other things in them. Like event currency. There is nothing that says these share the rare loot table.

Your move.

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Posted by: LinkR.6190

LinkR.6190

They don’t affect it at all. Nothing prevents a mob from dropping two rares. It is simply a matter of chance.

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Posted by: GrandmaFunk.3052

GrandmaFunk.3052

as others have said, it’s an extra drop, it doesn’t replace anything.

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

They drop much more often than rares. If they do take the place of a rare you would of otherwise got, the drop system would been seriously messed up.
I’m sure they take the place of something, though, meaning you get support ticket instead of any item you would of otherwise got. Sort of like: open a chest and get 4 random items, this was one of them (it could of taken the place of a green, or blue, or even junk or precursor).
I think I only get these support tickets from chests. like the chests after the boss in queen’s gauntlet or meta event.

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Posted by: tolunart.2095

tolunart.2095

Since the last patch I’ve only seen them come from permanent chests, such as those at the end of jumping puzzles, not the spawned chests (which usually hold gauntlet tickets). There’s one in pretty much every chest I’ve opened, chests which have never given me a rare, so they aren’t replacing rare drops. Neither are the gauntlet tickets, any more than kite fortunes or support tokens before them did.

It’s just a bug, and you can sell them for something like a silver and change, so it’s usually better than getting a white or blue. Why complain that you’re getting free money?

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Posted by: Im Mudbone.1437

Im Mudbone.1437

Several months until they started putting other things in them. Like event currency. There is nothing that says these share the rare loot table.

Your move.

Like I said look it up(I did) and no I’m not going through all that searching again just to appease you, do your own investigating or just go on with your cluelessness and/or belief. Now it’s your move, are you going to do the leg work or wait on others to do it for you.

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Posted by: maddoctor.2738

maddoctor.2738

Several months until they started putting other things in them. Like event currency. There is nothing that says these share the rare loot table.

Your move.

Like I said look it up(I did) and no I’m not going through all that searching again just to appease you, do your own investigating or just go on with your cluelessness and/or belief. Now it’s your move, are you going to do the leg work or wait on others to do it for you.

No. Support Tokens are EXTRA loot you get, it doesn’t replace your “rares”. It’s very easy to verify too just do a few Jumping Puzzles, you will easily see you get an extra drop (the Support Token) then you did previously.

Not to mention I seem to be getting one Support Token for each JP I finish, I must’ve missed so many rares indeed!

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Posted by: Jrunyon.3012

Jrunyon.3012

It’s obvious mudbone is trolling, please stop replying to him.

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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

JustTrogdor.7892

Sell them to a vendor. Heck they are worth more than most of the junk I have been getting these days.

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Posted by: CryxTryx.9208

CryxTryx.9208

Several months until they started putting other things in them. Like event currency. There is nothing that says these share the rare loot table.

Your move.

Like I said look it up(I did) and no I’m not going through all that searching again just to appease you, do your own investigating or just go on with your cluelessness and/or belief. Now it’s your move, are you going to do the leg work or wait on others to do it for you.

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Posted by: CreativeAnarchy.6324

CreativeAnarchy.6324

I’ve only been getting them from jumping puzzles and it seems like every jumping puzzle.

I’ve never gotten a rare out of the jumping puzzles.

I really doubt that they replace any kind of rare.

I speak for my self and no one else. Only fools believe they speak for a majority.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

They also drop from those little chests behind Veterans in caves and such. I like them, they are worth 1 Silver 14 copper. They certainly do not replace rares, as I do those chests every day, and have rarely (kind of a pun) gotten a rare from those chests.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

As far as I know they dont’ replace rares, but like all event currency are above and beyond everything you would have gotten. At present that means an extra silver plus for every one you get, while taking away nothing from you.

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Posted by: tolunart.2095

tolunart.2095

As far as I know they dont’ replace rares, but like all event currency are above and beyond everything you would have gotten. At present that means an extra silver plus for every one you get, while taking away nothing from you.

Exactly. Since the kite fortunes started dropping I see a chest pop up every four or five kills. I occasionally get rares when killing random mobs, but never that fast… and I still get them as often as before. Randomposter.3456 can insist they take away his rares all he wants, I believe my own eyes.

I made a few bonus gold selling the ones that built up last month, and occasionally get a little bonus. I wish they still dropped instead of the Gauntlet tickets, I’m not interested in farming it and those soulbound tickets just clutter up my alts. I’ll hang on to them a bit just in case, though…

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Posted by: Im Mudbone.1437

Im Mudbone.1437

It’s obvious mudbone is trolling, please stop replying to him.

Actually, I’m not trolling, It’s an observation made from a reply by a dev and the moving of that thread to another forum reflecting this, but, think what you may. Wish I had kept that thread moved notice just for you.

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Posted by: sinzer.4018

sinzer.4018

Several months until they started putting other things in them. Like event currency. There is nothing that says these share the rare loot table.

Your move.

Like I said look it up(I did) and no I’m not going through all that searching again just to appease you, do your own investigating or just go on with your cluelessness and/or belief. Now it’s your move, are you going to do the leg work or wait on others to do it for you.

That’s terrible. In any discussion the moment you’re relying on evidence you’ve found you need to share it not tell others to go find evidence themselves.

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Posted by: Im Mudbone.1437

Im Mudbone.1437

Several months until they started putting other things in them. Like event currency. There is nothing that says these share the rare loot table.

Your move.

Like I said look it up(I did) and no I’m not going through all that searching again just to appease you, do your own investigating or just go on with your cluelessness and/or belief. Now it’s your move, are you going to do the leg work or wait on others to do it for you.

That’s terrible. In any discussion the moment you’re relying on evidence you’ve found you need to share it not tell others to go find evidence themselves.

This was evidence found WEEKS AGO and I’m not going through the trouble of finding it again for the nay-sayers, do as I did and research it.

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Posted by: Jrunyon.3012

Jrunyon.3012

This was evidence found WEEKS AGO and I’m not going through the trouble of finding it again for the nay-sayers, do as I did and research it.

I simply don’t believe you Mudbone, no matter how many times you bold your statements. I found a quote that said quite the opposite (go find it) and it is just common sense. I have found multiple rares alongside the support tokens, and there is no way that would happen as often as it did if support tokens were sharing the same loot table. They are not taking the place of rares I assure you.

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Posted by: sinzer.4018

sinzer.4018

Several months until they started putting other things in them. Like event currency. There is nothing that says these share the rare loot table.

Your move.

Like I said look it up(I did) and no I’m not going through all that searching again just to appease you, do your own investigating or just go on with your cluelessness and/or belief. Now it’s your move, are you going to do the leg work or wait on others to do it for you.

That’s terrible. In any discussion the moment you’re relying on evidence you’ve found you need to share it not tell others to go find evidence themselves.

This was evidence found WEEKS AGO and I’m not going through the trouble of finding it again for the nay-sayers, do as I did and research it.

So? When you came across the evidence is irrelevant. The only way to back up your claims with evidence is to provide it not vaguely allude to its existence.

This was evidence found WEEKS AGO and I’m not going through the trouble of finding it again for the nay-sayers, do as I did and research it.

I simply don’t believe you Mudbone, no matter how many times you bold your statements. I found a quote that said quite the opposite (go find it) and it is just common sense. I have found multiple rares alongside the support tokens, and there is no way that would happen as often as it did if support tokens were sharing the same loot table. They are not taking the place of rares I assure you.

Could you do the decent thing and provide this quote? I know, Mudbone isn’t going to provide anything at all and i know it’s tempting to do the same thing in retaliation (not to forget the broken search function on this forum) but it would put the whole discussion to an end.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

they are not robbing your rare slots.

dun make wild assumptions.

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Posted by: Im Mudbone.1437

Im Mudbone.1437

Several months until they started putting other things in them. Like event currency. There is nothing that says these share the rare loot table.

Your move.

Like I said look it up(I did) and no I’m not going through all that searching again just to appease you, do your own investigating or just go on with your cluelessness and/or belief. Now it’s your move, are you going to do the leg work or wait on others to do it for you.

That’s terrible. In any discussion the moment you’re relying on evidence you’ve found you need to share it not tell others to go find evidence themselves.

This was evidence found WEEKS AGO and I’m not going through the trouble of finding it again for the nay-sayers, do as I did and research it.

So? When you came across the evidence is irrelevant. The only way to back up your claims with evidence is to provide it not vaguely allude to its existence.

This was evidence found WEEKS AGO and I’m not going through the trouble of finding it again for the nay-sayers, do as I did and research it.

I simply don’t believe you Mudbone, no matter how many times you bold your statements. I found a quote that said quite the opposite (go find it) and it is just common sense. I have found multiple rares alongside the support tokens, and there is no way that would happen as often as it did if support tokens were sharing the same loot table. They are not taking the place of rares I assure you.

Could you do the decent thing and provide this quote? I know, Mudbone isn’t going to provide anything at all and i know it’s tempting to do the same thing in retaliation (not to forget the broken search function on this forum) but it would put the whole discussion to an end.

I am actively looking for it, but, not sure I can/will find it since the search function is a total joke, wish there was a way to retrieve posts that I have replied to that were moved([i}you know the ones sent by devs alerting of the move like the ones sent for infractions[/i]) and I’m sure by now it is buried deep, but, as I said I am looking. I am not making this up, I know what I read and a dev replied that they were looking into this.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

I know how may drops I get from a specific jumping puzzle chest..the one in behind the waterfall in LA. I get the same number of drops each time (which is 3). But when I get the token, I get 3 drops and the token. It’s not replacing anything.

Before the token I’d never gotten for drops from it.

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Posted by: Villious.8530

Villious.8530

In less than two weeks, I looted close to 400 support tokens myself. If those support tokens were actually taking the place of rare equipment drops, that means I would have gotten almost 400 rares in less than two weeks? No way! I’m lucky if I get a couple of rares a day.

No way that passes any sanity test.

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Posted by: MrRuin.9740

MrRuin.9740

As far as I know they dont’ replace rares, but like all event currency are above and beyond everything you would have gotten. At present that means an extra silver plus for every one you get, while taking away nothing from you.

Is this true in the case of of something like jumping puzzle chests? I am still getting them in these chests time to time.

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Posted by: ilr.9675

ilr.9675

They are robbing rare drop slots from chests and serve no purpose other than that…

I think you mean the Pavillion Tickets are robbing those slots.

Atleast the Support Tokens are actually WORTH SOMETHING at vendors

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

As far as I know they dont’ replace rares, but like all event currency are above and beyond everything you would have gotten. At present that means an extra silver plus for every one you get, while taking away nothing from you.

Is this true in the case of of something like jumping puzzle chests? I am still getting them in these chests time to time.

Yep, I’m pretty sure I’m going the same number of items from jumping puzzle chests that I’ve always gotten, plus an extra support token.

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Posted by: Im Mudbone.1437

Im Mudbone.1437

OK, I must concede defeat, it’s just been to long ago. I even found where to search posts/replies by me and can only say/think that it got deleted or I dreamed it all, so, with that thought in mind I must conclude it never happened. Sorry all.

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Posted by: maddoctor.2738

maddoctor.2738

OK, I must concede defeat, it’s just been to long ago. I even found where to search posts/replies by me and can only say/think that it got deleted or I dreamed it all, so, with that thought in mind I must conclude it never happened. Sorry all.

Maybe it wasn’t for the support tokens but for something else? For example the Consortium chests during Last Stand on Southsun? Those were rare and maybe it worked like that for those.

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Posted by: TIFour.1076

TIFour.1076

I am pretty sure that we’d just get Queen’s Tickets instead of Support Tickets.

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Posted by: Im Mudbone.1437

Im Mudbone.1437

OK, I must concede defeat, it’s just been to long ago. I even found where to search posts/replies by me and can only say/think that it got deleted or I dreamed it all, so, with that thought in mind I must conclude it never happened. Sorry all.

Maybe it wasn’t for the support tokens but for something else? For example the Consortium chests during Last Stand on Southsun? Those were rare and maybe it worked like that for those.

No it was after the consortium but before the “Support Tokens”.

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Posted by: goldenwing.8473

goldenwing.8473

I’ve picked up 5-6 Support Tokens in the last couple of days. These were the ones that were used to be able to vote for Ellen or Evon in the last set of temporary content.

I’ve gotten them off random mobs in Queensdale, Gendarran, Malchor’s Leap, one from a boss mob in CM explorable, one from a level 75 personal story instance (leading up to Zhaitan) and from some random champion somewhere I cannot remember.

In the case of both champions, I do not believe the tokens replaced rare loot. At least as far as I could tell given pattern recognition of “normal” loot amount.

Agree that they need to be removed just to get them cleaned out. In the meantime, an extra silver is a pre-birthday bonus.

BG: 52 alts, 29 lvl 80’s. They all look good, so I am done with the game: Oct 2014

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Posted by: tolunart.2095

tolunart.2095

OK, I must concede defeat, it’s just been to long ago. I even found where to search posts/replies by me and can only say/think that it got deleted or I dreamed it all, so, with that thought in mind I must conclude it never happened. Sorry all.

Maybe it wasn’t for the support tokens but for something else? For example the Consortium chests during Last Stand on Southsun? Those were rare and maybe it worked like that for those.

No it was after the consortium but before the “Support Tokens”.

Memory is a tricky thing – eye witnesses can give conflicting reports of an event because our minds fill in details that we miss or forget. One thing you read among hundreds, after several months? Not always reliable…

Kite fortunes were the first to appear in the “rare chests” and took people by surprise because they were “rare” items that actually dropped much more often than a rare should. The thread you saw may have been a misunderstanding, devs reassuring players that they did not replace actual rare drops, or a claim (true or not) from early in the event that they did this. If it actually did replace rare drops the error was quickly corrected and did not happen by the time support tokens came along, and certainly does not happen now.

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Posted by: Algreg.3629

Algreg.3629

Yes, they are STILL dropping and they ARE robbing us of the rare drop in that spot because they ARE considered as a rare drop(nothing rare about them, they should be WHITES), just like the new bags that are now dropping deemed as a rares and exotics which in my humblest of opinions are all GARBAGE.

What is your source on this. I don’t think you know this for sure, and I am pretty sure you are just plain wrong.

They are not on the same loot table as the normal rare drop. You can tell this simply at the frequency at which they drop.

They are just an extra drop, just like Kite Fortunes. Kite Fortunes dropped the same way and did not override a rare loot drop.

They are still worth money, just vendor them.

You know those wooden and steel chests that spawn? They are designated for rare(wooden chests) and exotics(steel chests) and have been for several months now, look it up.

Ooooooor they cause those chests to spawn as a visual clue.

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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

JustTrogdor.7892

They are robbing rare drop slots from chests and serve no purpose other than that…

I think you mean the Pavillion Tickets are robbing those slots.

Atleast the Support Tokens are actually WORTH SOMETHING at vendors

I’m holding on to those Pavilion tickets just in case they happen to turn out like support tokens. Chances are they won’t but since I will never use them anyway it doesn’t hurt to keep them for a bit.

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