Guild Wars 2

While I think the change to MF is a good move, I had a LOT of Pillaging and Explorer prefixed items listed on AH that I spent a fair amount of gold on acquiring materials for, and time crafting and listing on the AH. The change in MF, and subsequently the cancelling of all those Explorer and Pillaging items I had listed results in:

a) a loss of the listing fees I was charged to list the items, with no remedy.
b) a huge number of level 50 and 65 rares that are now essentially worthless because as soon as I change the prefix, they will be soulbound and therefore useless (all but one of my characters is level 80).

Maybe I could sell them to the game vendors, but those prices are a pitance compared to the amount I invested in the materials to craft them. Salvaging also doesn’t “make me whole” in replacing my investment costs. Why was it necessary to make those soulbound upon stat switch. If I could switch the stats and relist on the AH, I wouldn’t be as bothered. But I can’t, and I’m taking a huge loss now.

tolunart.2095:

OMG! Now how are you going to pay your mortgage and feed your family… oh, wait, it’s just play money. Nevermind.

That was a really impressive answer

I had a LOT of Pillaging and Explorer prefixed items listed on AH that I spent a fair amount of gold on acquiring materials for, and time crafting and listing on the AH.

why did you do this in the first place?

I agree, it’s really baffling that they didn’t at least refund your listing fees. Making the gear Soulbound kinda makes sense (otherwise people could’ve simply picked the most expensive stat combo to turn their gear into and then sold it for potentially ridiculous profits) but they should’ve done a better job communicating this far ahead of time to give people the chance to plan ahead better.

Zarellox

I know where you are coming from I had the same thing happen to me, Now apparently I should have read the upcoming patch notes or even a 3rd party website and Naturally its my fault for not doing so “insert rolling eyes here”

However even IF i had done all the things I was “supposed” to do while having a life outside of guild wars , ( You know feeding the family and paying the mortgage)

I still would have lost the listing fees

So go figure,

The best you can hope is to do what I did and salvage and hope to max out mats and luck

I am really starting to tire of this game and the lack of thought and bugs that come with the ever increasing amount of patches, which makes me sad as I did really love this game

With the mf changes and the crafting bump to 500 resetting learned recipes, there have been a lot of recent changes that hit a large portion of player right in our new account wallet! These changes would be a bitter pill one at a time, but combined like they were it feels like my measly 100g has been devalued by at least half.

BilboBaggins.5620:

With the mf changes and the crafting bump to 500 resetting learned recipes, there have been a lot of recent changes that hit a large portion of player right in our new account wallet! These changes would be a bitter pill one at a time, but combined like they were it feels like my measly 100g has been devalued by at least half.

Champion loot buffs, Crown Pavilion and Scarlet’s Invasions (with lots and lots of veterans and champions) were clear indications that there were changes coming – even without the blog post in July that came right out and said so.

Ignoring all that, the game is still the same as it was in June. There’s a whole world to explore, dynamic events to partake, Orr to farm, etc. You don’t have to complete everything in a week.

Lisa.6102:

tolunart.2095:

OMG! Now how are you going to pay your mortgage and feed your family… oh, wait, it’s just play money. Nevermind.

That was a really impressive answer

It actually was quite impressive… made me laugh as well. If the in-game money is so irrelevant to you, then you won’t mind sending me all your in-game gold.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

I had a LOT of Pillaging and Explorer prefixed items listed on AH that I spent a fair amount of gold on acquiring materials for, and time crafting and listing on the AH.

why did you do this in the first place?

Crafting and selling equipment on the AH is a very profitable endeavor if you figure out the right items, strategy, and price points to sell stuff in.

You were warned it was coming. A week in advance actually. Longer if you looked at the looking ahead post.

tolunart.2095:

It’s a really important dilemma, and deserves serious consideration. I mean, how many people have gone bankrupt because of this tragedy? How many children have been orphaned? How many countries have been thrust into anarchy? Oh, the humanity! Something must be done!

(I had about a dozen items returned. Oops. I salvaged them for ectos and made lemonade instead of complaining to the forums about it.)

I had about 100 items. They aren’t level 70-80 items, so ectos from salvage aren’t an option (hence the comment about lvl 50 and 65 in the original post). And if it’s such an irrelevant issue for you, why are you trolling through forums trying to make yourself feel superior commenting on stuff that doesn’t apply to you. It bothered me, I made a post in the account forum to see if I could get some remedy. The post got moved by ArenaNet… oh well.. sucks for me… but it doesn’t hurt to ask and provide feedback to them for future consideration.

Bad thing is Arachnophobia also was +Magic find and Now i’ve got a soulbound bow on my mesmer i cannot even use or sell -_-

Neve.7134:

Bad thing is Arachnophobia also was +Magic find and Now i’ve got a soulbound bow on my mesmer i cannot even use or sell -_-

Unless it is equiped it becomes account bound. Either harvest it or put it in the MF with 3 other objects to get something that is no account bound.

They can still be salvaged for mats. You were given plenty of warning that MF items would be taken from the TP and bound to you, and you did nothing. No one lost anything of real value.

You could have contacted Anet directly if you wanted to give them feedback or ask about something. When you make a public post about something, you open it up to responses from anyone. I do not need to, and will not, justify my posts to anyone.

In the future I suggest contacting Support about issues related to the game. Posting here rarely gets an answer from anyone at Anet.

Neve.7134:

Bad thing is Arachnophobia also was +Magic find and Now i’ve got a soulbound bow on my mesmer i cannot even use or sell -_-

Really ?

Infinite Light, Immobulus, The Crossing, The Mad Moon, Arachnophobia, Cooguloosh, and Seasatchel will all allow their stats to be permanently chosen as a one-time ability but not become account bound.

tolunart.2095:

They can still be salvaged for mats. You were given plenty of warning that MF items would be taken from the TP and bound to you, and you did nothing. No one lost anything of real value.

Yes but even with 6 months warning , If you had listed MF for sale on TP the day before the warning you STILL lost your listing fees.

Yes, No real life value but I doubt there are many people playing that think they can go off and "pay the mortgage and feed the family " with in game gold

But it would kind be considered a loss if you listed 500 MF exotic gear and were told the next that that “Sucko Bucko, we changed the rules BTW , we have your listing fees, kiss those good bye, oh and those 500 items we giving back …. good luck with those LOL”

The only magic find I believe in this the magic that allowed my now ex-girlfriend to find a job in another city 600 miles away.

I get it. Really. You don’t like the fact that you lost the listing fees for some items. So write customer support about it.

I lost the listing fees for my MF items, too. But it doesn’t bother me at all. It’s just a game. Moving on.

I don’t understand why we have fees in the first place. What happens to the coin?

vhiran xergo.7802:

I don’t understand why we have fees in the first place. What happens to the coin?

It’s called a gold sink. In the real world, a specific amount of money is passed around from person to person as people buy things, get paid for the work they do, etc. (a very simplified explanation but you get the point.) There is only so much money and it just changes hands from one person to another.

In a game like this, money is created out of thin air every time you kill an enemy, when you sell an item to a vendor, when you open a chest, etc. The amount of money goes from essentially 0 when the servers first come online to millions, billions, trillions etc. as a couple million players go through the game creating money as they go.

In the real world, if you just printed more money every time you wanted a pocket full of cakitten would quickly become worthless. The same thing happens in the game when veteran players have millions in the bank and no real reason to spend it. So the devs create “gold sinks” to counter the “gold faucet” that is creating money.

They put things in the game that you have to spend money on, like repair costs for equipment, and things that you want to spend money on, like waypoint fees so you don’t have to walk all the way across the map to get to a dungeon. The TP fees are another gold sink, there are things you want to buy and people want to make money from selling stuff to you. But the fees for listing and selling items removes a little bit of gold every time this happens, helping to balance the gold that is being created.

The up-front listing fee is necessary because the listings don’t expire, and people would use it to store items by putting a ridiculous price on it, like a stack of green logs for 1 million gold each, then cancel the auction when they need it for something.