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Posted by: Skidmark.7182

Skidmark.7182

Can someone please explain why when I kill a champion with my party in Cursed Shore there are no boxes or coffers dropping. I don’t farm these Champions all day but it is nice to go Champion hunting now and then.

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Posted by: Waar Kijk Je Naar.8713

Waar Kijk Je Naar.8713

You aren’t dealing enough damage to qualify for loot. As the amount of people damaging a monster grows, so does the damage requirement.

IT’S A SWORD. THEY’RE NOT MEANT TO BE SAFE.

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Posted by: Julie Yann.5379

Julie Yann.5379

I solo’d the Champion of the Gladiators in the Fields of Gold and got nothing. Often the legendaries in the Queen’s event don’t drop and sometimes the tower and keep lords don’t drop and I know I have made enough damage to qualify.

Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
“…let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we shall die;.”

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Posted by: Windu The Forbidden One.6045

Windu The Forbidden One.6045

You aren’t dealing enough damage to qualify for loot. As the amount of people damaging a monster grows, so does the damage requirement.

I’m sorry but that’s not true. Some champions I’m hitting for a minute with everything I have and get nothing. Others I hit once just before they die and get a chest.
I only have this problem with the ember farm though.

Dear A-net: Please nerf rock. Paper is fine
~Sincerely, Scissors

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Posted by: Valenthor.4052

Valenthor.4052

You aren’t dealing enough damage to qualify for loot. As the amount of people damaging a monster grows, so does the damage requirement.

I’m sorry but that’s not true. Some champions I’m hitting for a minute with everything I have and get nothing. Others I hit once just before they die and get a chest.
I only have this problem with the ember farm though.

Read the second sentence again and think about how many people are at the ember farm. Hint: It’s a lot more than any other champion farm. Couple this with culling and any non-AoE weapon and you get that issue. I suggest getting in a group, preferably with staff guardians (good AoE that tags through culling), and make sure everyone is focus firing a target.

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Posted by: Pandeh.5248

Pandeh.5248

You aren’t dealing enough damage to qualify for loot. As the amount of people damaging a monster grows, so does the damage requirement.

I’m sorry but that’s not true. Some champions I’m hitting for a minute with everything I have and get nothing. Others I hit once just before they die and get a chest.
I only have this problem with the ember farm though.

Read the second sentence again and think about how many people are at the ember farm. Hint: It’s a lot more than any other champion farm. Couple this with culling and any non-AoE weapon and you get that issue. I suggest getting in a group, preferably with staff guardians (good AoE that tags through culling), and make sure everyone is focus firing a target.

I have done maybe 50k damage do a champion and still no loot. So yea, I think there is a bug rather than not enough damage.

And on the same case I have gotten 1 hit for a non crit under 1k damage and have gotten loot.(Yes, same zerg, yes it was big)

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Posted by: Lambent.6375

Lambent.6375

I solo’d the Champion of the Gladiators in the Fields of Gold and got nothing. Often the legendaries in the Queen’s event don’t drop and sometimes the tower and keep lords don’t drop and I know I have made enough damage to qualify.

Yeah, I did this champ with a small group of people the first day of the patch, and none of us got anything. I sent in a bug report, and moved on.

“Caithe, someday you’ll see, Tyria needs me. -Scarlet”

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Posted by: Skidmark.7182

Skidmark.7182

I wonder how long it will take Anet to fix this problem?

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Posted by: data.4093

data.4093

Anet knows about it since every single time a legendary dies in pavilion or ember farm starts several players notice no loot…not many threads about this though. More complaining = more action by Anet.

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Posted by: azurrei.5691

azurrei.5691

Anet has taken the WRONG approach to encouraging “group” play. Aggregating damage across the entire group to determine loot eligibility is ridiculous. If someone doesn’t feel like grouping for dynamic events..or wants to only group with a friend or two while not having to put up with idiots/rude comments from grouping with random people, they should not be screwed out of loot eligibility.

If Anet wants to encourage grouping, give people a MF bonus for every participating group member (say 5% for a total of 20%) or a chance for bonus loot, more xp/karma, etc.

Anet should be rewarding people for grouping, not punishing them for not grouping.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

IMO it has to deal more with the players who are first to tag the mobs… they get the loot. There seems to be a limit to how many people can get loot from a mob. If you’re past whatever that limit is, you won’t get anything regardless of how much damage you do. There does seem to be a minimum amount of damage required as well, but it’s pretty kitten low.

This is why staff guards are preferred. It’s not like it’s epic dps… it just tags half of your screen with the auto attack.

This is just based off of personal observations and talking with other players about the subject.

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Posted by: data.4093

data.4093

Anet has taken the WRONG approach to encouraging “group” play. Aggregating damage across the entire group to determine loot eligibility is ridiculous. If someone doesn’t feel like grouping for dynamic events..or wants to only group with a friend or two while not having to put up with idiots/rude comments from grouping with random people, they should not be screwed out of loot eligibility.

If Anet wants to encourage grouping, give people a MF bonus for every participating group member (say 5% for a total of 20%) or a chance for bonus loot, more xp/karma, etc.

Anet should be rewarding people for grouping, not punishing them for not grouping.

Ah but that’s how most games are, 1 boss means 1 party gets the loot. I believed Anet was totally against this but if this is their new approach then it seems they’ve had a major change of heart.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

Paulytnz.7619

I soloed a champ (Shiverpeaks map, Centaur Champ NW corner in a centaur camp) in a lvl 15-25 area yesterday and got not chest/loot either. I do think that there may be some out there that are bugged in some way.

Since when did this business of being a hero become being a business?

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

Oh… there are also some champs that don’t drop these chests. They are usually event related. Why these ones and not others? Idk.

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Posted by: Abyssisis.3971

Abyssisis.3971

I’ve also noticed that some champions do not drop loot or even give experience when you kill them even when putting alot of damage on them.

Commander Obscura
The Bloody Rain [Rain]
Devona’s Rest

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Posted by: jfeez.8209

jfeez.8209

Ive solod a couple champions and got no loot no experience… actually happens more times when i solo them, the few times ive been in the gauntlet or frostforge zerg ive always got loot cept for a few times, and i play guardian(hammer and staff in zergs) so i know tht im doing enough damage

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Posted by: Poledo.3256

Poledo.3256

I find it becomes more evident the larger the zerg. It’s definitely not damage based because as someone said, you can get chests from barely damaging some champs and others you wail away on the whole time and get nothing.

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Posted by: Dante.1508

Dante.1508

You aren’t dealing enough damage to qualify for loot. As the amount of people damaging a monster grows, so does the damage requirement.

I’m sorry but that’s not true. Some champions I’m hitting for a minute with everything I have and get nothing. Others I hit once just before they die and get a chest.
I only have this problem with the ember farm though.

Happens to me too, i hit them for 75% of their health and still nothing, it is random and occasional but it does happen, i feel its a bug or something to do with lag issues..

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Posted by: Evon Skyfyre.9673

Evon Skyfyre.9673

I’m wondering if the pavillion champ nerf has effected all champs in and ouside the pav.

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

Avelos.6798

cursed shore farmers that intentionally fail the event to farm more don’t deserve that loot for breaking the game and breaking the economy :Y

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Posted by: ozmaniandevil.6805

ozmaniandevil.6805

This happened to me twice today but never before that. I put in a LOT of damage each time but got nothing. Anet needs to fix this bug.

ETA this was in queensdale and i was not champion farming. Just happened across the champion fights while i was leveling up a character.

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Posted by: Galtrix.7369

Galtrix.7369

Yeah, ANet’s trying to get rid of Rangers altogether now. I can’t do enough DPS to get the reward chest no matter how hard I try. I’m a freaking glass cannon ranger with a longbow and I still don’t do enough damage. Kittening Anet is trying to get rid of the Ranger class now.

[~Galtrix~] [~Level 80 Elementalist~] [~GoM~]

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Posted by: Gwyllion Redsky.5241

Gwyllion Redsky.5241

Yeah, ANet’s trying to get rid of Rangers altogether now. I can’t do enough DPS to get the reward chest no matter how hard I try. I’m a freaking glass cannon ranger with a longbow and I still don’t do enough damage. Kittening Anet is trying to get rid of the Ranger class now.

Not sure what u are doing wrong but I am a full magic find gear ranger and I used to farm Frostgorge champions and always got the loot – unless I was late running to the champ which sometimes happens due to my slow comp. I say used to because I had – 40 deluxe gear boxes, 132 fallen adventurer backpacs, 38 oversized r. 10 shell pouches and 253 Gilded Dtronboxes ! All the exotic, orange tipe. After opening them(took me some time )
I got 6 RARE items. NO EXOTIC. Not 1 exotic from 400 champion loot. ???
How is it possible ? Should not be possible. All this time and effort. First the Mystic Forge, putting hundreds of rares in to get 3 exotics, now with the Champion loot.

Anyone knows how is this exactly done in the game, when you get a chest, is the code of the loot written beforehand or is it rteally random ? If I get a chest and open it now will it be the same loot if I opened it an hour later.If I could give a chest to another player, would he/she have the same loot ? If not then it could basically mean the loot can be manipulated if wanted by whoever is in charge.
Seems to me some people get 3 precursors some people get none.
Seems Anet would like to teach us it does not matter how skilled you are, how dedicated you are, basicaly u just need dumb look to go ahead in the game. This is so not right.

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Posted by: Draconicus.7564

Draconicus.7564

In my personal experience, each time i soloed Champs i get nothing or c.r.a.p.!

When i kill them with other ppl, normally i get the normal box and average loot!

But some times weird things happen…like i giving tons of dmg and get a Bronze medal, and other times the champ is almost dieing when i arrive, i just hit it once and get Gold!

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Posted by: JK Arrow.7102

JK Arrow.7102

I feel like CS is the issue. I have no problems getting tag credit in the Pavilion or in Frostgorge. And I typically hit the champs many more times in CS as well.

Anyone knows how is this exactly done in the game, when you get a chest, is the code of the loot written beforehand or is it rteally random ?

I can’t say for certain for champ bags but early on in the game when there were some rollbacks, I used some dyes both before and after the rollbacks. I got different dyes so it appears that containers create the new item at the time of use rather than upon receiving them. Dyes can be stacked and traded as well so it makes sense.

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Posted by: yorick.1305

yorick.1305

So many players’ have said this in chat during events particularly in CS.

We know this is true of World Boss Events, does it apply to the OP too? Seems rather ‘up in the air’.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

Paulytnz.7619

Just soloed Captain Wiley in the lake in Gendarryn fields, he drops no chest, probably because you don’t kill him he just runs off, and OVERSIGHT no doubt.

Since when did this business of being a hero become being a business?