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Posted by: Heibi.4251

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Airship Cargo Strap is a trophy required for the Magister’s Pack collection.

However the description says this: Successfully complete the Verdant Brink map meta-event cycle.

While the actual requirement is: Awarded upon successfully reaching tier 4 during the nighttime meta-event in Verdant Brink.

Why is a collection piece dependent on the success of an entire map? With the declining participation in VB I have yet to see a T4 map lately. Why is my success dependent on all the other players? I could see if we had to kill the boss at the end, like Mordremoth, to access his reward chest. But even if you only kill one boss in VB you get a reward and you don’t get a “Failed Event” message. The Airship Cargo Strap should be rewarded after the meta is complete, no matter the tier. Totally unfair in its current state.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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It’s not the first collection that requires successful completion of a meta and probably won’t be the last.

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Posted by: Lethalvriend.1723

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I don’t know how you go about getting T4 VB maps so perhaps this can help you. I’ve had 100% success rate the last few weeks. I even organized one late that still managed to pull through to T4. The trick is to start a taxi early and announce it on your map. VB meta starts every 2 hours at XX:45 minutes and lasts 45 minutes till the end. Helicopters spawn at controlled camps with 20 min left on the timer. It is not possible to get T4 if you have 30min on the timer and still nothing is organized. If you join a map don’t expect others to do the work, start your own T4 taxi and explain what people should do when night falls (= spread out with 4-5 per camp that defend and upgrade their camps). You can ask others to create a taxi too and tag up at their camps. Make sure people communicate during nighttime by asking them if they need help or if a camp is unattended etc.

The event is only a true success when all bosses have been killed which in a way does make sense, because you didn’t eliminate all the threats in the jungle in time.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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You can reach T4 while skipping a boss. We were able to do this when the first nobles event would bug resulting in us getting no available camps at night.

The endless waves that spawn during the three defend event cycles are easy to solo for a large percentage of camps. I haven’t tested them all. The waves don’t respawn until the last enemy is killed so if you leave something harmless alive, such as a mender, you will only have to worry about the vines and whatever else is a natural spawn.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

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that sounds like a great strategy until some helpful person runs by …

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that sounds like a great strategy until some helpful person runs by …

Which is one of the reasons why I haven’t been able to test the rest. Otherwise you’ll need multiple players depending on the mob types.

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Posted by: Heibi.4251

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Happened again today. We killed all the bosses but missed T4 by about 15-20%. This is ridiculous. This is why it shouldn’t be connected to T4 solely. I’ll never be able to finish this collection at this rate.

Thanks for making it ridiculously stupid, ANeT. You make the other parts available through story line steps, map merchants, and such, but no, you make one part not doable unless I get an ENTIRE map’s help. Thanks for nothing.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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Happened again today. We killed all the bosses but missed T4 by about 15-20%. This is ridiculous. This is why it shouldn’t be connected to T4 solely. I’ll never be able to finish this collection at this rate.

Thanks for making it ridiculously stupid, ANeT. You make the other parts available through story line steps, map merchants, and such, but no, you make one part not doable unless I get an ENTIRE map’s help. Thanks for nothing.

Try to hop onto the map that just finishes after the daily reset. The night cycle should start in about 3 hours from now but I’d hop on a little before. If you don’t see an advertisement for T4, create one and get people into your map. Having commanders helps too.

Beating the bosses is only half of getting T4. In order to get the rest, you have to defend the camps. You need to be at tier 2.5 by the time for the bosses or you may not make it. Generally each of the three camp defend phases contributes about half a tier if you hold most of them. Turning in supply and doing escorts also help too.

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I entered a map that was advertised as going for T4. Didn’t happen. This is why I’m more than frustrated with how ANeT design this collection for a simple back piece. Everything else is available through MY actions and doesn’t rely on a MAP POPULATION’S contribution. None of the other back pieces required T4-anything. This makes no sense. If the wiki didn’t exist I wouldn’t know that the in-game description and the wiki expanded description differed. At least killing all 5 bosses should suffice and not the level of map.

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I’ve done it with half a map’s worth of players a few times. The bosses also die much faster with a smaller number of players as each since they’re not scaled up so much. Just make sure everyone is spread out and keep doing events. There’s a fairly large buffer built in so you don’t need to hold every single camp 100% of the time.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

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The bosses shouldn’t be as much of a problem as getting to tier2 +50% towards tier 3 by the time you hit the 20minute mark. If you do then killing the bosses should push it to t4.

In total you need 1 person for patriarch and maybe 4 or 5 for the others.

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Posted by: Neural.1824

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In total you need 1 person for patriarch

Please post video, would love to see this along with build info.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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In total you need 1 person for patriarch

Please post video, would love to see this along with build info.

I personally haven’t tried Patriarch but Matriarch can be done solo since the attacks are slow and well telegraphed.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

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In total you need 1 person for patriarch

Please post video, would love to see this along with build info.

I personally haven’t tried Patriarch but Matriarch can be done solo since the attacks are slow and well telegraphed.

If you can do Matriarch then Patriarch should be a breeze … unless you are not good at throwing eggs. The biggest challenge for Patriarch is efficient egg throwing otherwise any high DPS build should be fine. I generally use this http://qtfy.enjin.com/necromancer#DeathMagicVariant1 (you don’t have to be anywhere near as good at the person in the video for the rotation either, IIRC I get about maybe 1/3 to 2/3 from the golem) for patriarch if I need to solo since my other characters are less damage oriented and there is enough extra damage that I don’t have to worry about someone else showing up and messing things up for me. I use the minions for heal and elite slot. Corrosive Poison Cloud, BiP, and “You Are All Weaklings!” for utilities.

Fighting it you just stand inside the circle once you have patriarch targeted. Just don’t run under if it opens with spitting 3 fireballs at you. For some reason that causes the fireball to land under it and leave you with no place to stand. Dodge the tail swipe and move behind it when it is about to use the attack that tries to blow you off the platform.

The only thing that really matters is the egg throwing. If the “you are no longer participating …” message shows up then you are not throwing the eggs well enough.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

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I’ve participated in several T4 successes and not a single one included the full participation of the map. There were folks working on hero point challenges, map exploration, popping in & out of adventures, and so on.

It certainly requires cooperation, just as many, many collections depend on completing the metas in the other three HoT maps. The difference is mostly that it’s easy to figure out what’s required for each individual to contribute to success on those maps (mostly: join the zerg or join a specialist team, & DPS and/or CC at the right times). In VB, the goal is more nebulous and each player interested in completing the meta needs to remain focused on several different tasks.

The easiest time I had was when one person organized about 7 different people to pop tags. These folks then organized their teams to divide into groups of 2-5 to be at defense events just before or right after the attacks started. I just went to whatever camp was asking for help. We reached Ayrilana’s theoretical T2.5 with some time to spare, giving people a chance to catch their breath before heading for bosses. The bosses went down pretty quick, too, because our Fearless Leaders were organized for that, too.

tl;dr VB doesn’t take more people really, it’s not any harder theoretically, it’s just that it’s not as obvious how to help and so people tend to shy away from it.

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Posted by: Orangensaft.7139

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On EU there are at least 2 Teamspeak servers where meta events for different maps are regulary organized and you can just join and get a guaranteed success

With a new event plan for every week and already defined times when which event is supposed to be done and you can prepare to be ready to join when the day at which the event you need comes up

I dont know about NA but maybe there is something similar?

edit: found the website for NA organized events
ttsgamers.com/event-calendar
maybe next week they do an organized VB meta
try to join then and you should get what you need

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Posted by: Lethalvriend.1723

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Every event completion and camp upgrade counts towards the meta. If your map does not reach T4 after killing all bosses you can still reach it by doing the events and upgrading camps. Basically this means you do part of the work afterwards because your map probably didn’t do very well on the initial defense phase. I’ve seen this happen a few times and usually when informing others that the events and camp upgrades will count towards T4 it still reaches T4. You can easily get 30% of a bar by just doing events/upgrading if you kill the bosses with like 8 minutes left on the timer.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

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Every event completion and camp upgrade counts towards the meta. If your map does not reach T4 after killing all bosses you can still reach it by doing the events and upgrading camps. Basically this means you do part of the work afterwards because your map probably didn’t do very well on the initial defense phase. I’ve seen this happen a few times and usually when informing others that the events and camp upgrades will count towards T4 it still reaches T4. You can easily get 30% of a bar by just doing events/upgrading if you kill the bosses with like 8 minutes left on the timer.

That tends to be a very risky approach. I’ve been in too many maps where it fails to reach t4 by just a sliver short.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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Every event completion and camp upgrade counts towards the meta. If your map does not reach T4 after killing all bosses you can still reach it by doing the events and upgrading camps. Basically this means you do part of the work afterwards because your map probably didn’t do very well on the initial defense phase. I’ve seen this happen a few times and usually when informing others that the events and camp upgrades will count towards T4 it still reaches T4. You can easily get 30% of a bar by just doing events/upgrading if you kill the bosses with like 8 minutes left on the timer.

That tends to be a very risky approach. I’ve been in too many maps where it fails to reach t4 by just a sliver short.

Well you don’t intentionally try to do it that way but it’s an option if things don’t go as well.

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Posted by: Heibi.4251

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And yet again map fails to reach T4. 80% of the way there. Thanks ANeT for making this single collection piece rely on the participation of an entire kittening map!

ANeT, please delink it from T4 and make it to what the actual in game description says. “Successfully complete the Verdant Brink map meta-event cycle.”

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