Guild Wars 2

For the past hour I’ve been looking around, but I cannot find the News Piece that mentioned it…

I remember reading somewhere that Arena Net said that you can do the required minimum daily from the selection to get the daily achievement (the Laurel, Jug of Karma, etc.) but I also remember them saying that for the “go getters” that they can earn additional rewards by completing ALL of the dailies.

Well… I did just that, and all I got was the small experience from getting the daily completed.

Am I wrong in what I read? Was I dreaming?! Or is this something that Arena Net needs to fix?!?

You get additional achievement points and xp. What did you want more karma and another laurel? Come on then everyone would be complaining about how they had to grind more for the daily. I think xp and achievement points is just fine. It you want more go grind FoTM for hours.

Erm… ok.

If that’s all that there is then they really should not have hyped up the “do more of the dailies and you’ll get more stuff!”. The EXP gain from completing the daily is minimal, and the achievement points are just bragging points – you don’t get to use them for the in-game content.

And no, I wasn’t asking for more Laurels or Jugs of Karma. I was just asking if that was all we are really getting – minimal experience, which in my personal opinion, is not worth trying to do ALL of the dailies.

Now if they did it to where you got say, 50 silver, then at least it would / could be worth it.

But I never said I wanted more Laurels or Jugs of Karma. That would just be too OP.

The reason you can select just some of the achievements to qualify for your daily is so that people wouldn’t feel forced to do activities they don’t like. If there were additional significant rewards for completing all of them, then people would feel the need to complete all of them, and we’d be back to square one.

@Blacklight – Makes sense.

Blacklight.2871:

The reason you can select just some of the achievements to qualify for your daily is so that people wouldn’t feel forced to do activities they don’t like. If there were additional significant rewards for completing all of them, then people would feel the need to complete all of them, and we’d be back to square one.

Achievement points are significant to certain people and I’m not particularly happy with being forced to do WvW (a pvp gamemode) for PvE achievements, I also know people that aren’t happy they should have to create a new character or shout for help to do the Personal Story Achievement part of it.

They need to remove the Personal Story Completion achievement from Dailies completely and if they insist on having WvW be a part of the PvE Dailies then they need to change it to something other than player kills.

Options could include: 5 Guard NPC kills, or 2 Supply Camp Captures, or 3 Guard Flag Captures.

Those type of objectives can be done independent of how well your server does in WvW, aren’t dependent on being skilled in PvP and are relatively non-invasive.

They also encourage people to actually play WvW correctly instead of zoning in and asking where the zergs are and running with them hoping to get some kill credits.

Kuishen.6140:

Blacklight.2871:

The reason you can select just some of the achievements to qualify for your daily is so that people wouldn’t feel forced to do activities they don’t like. If there were additional significant rewards for completing all of them, then people would feel the need to complete all of them, and we’d be back to square one.

Achievement points are significant to certain people and I’m not particularly happy with being forced to do WvW (a pvp gamemode) for PvE achievements, I also know people that aren’t happy they should have to create a new character or shout for help to do the Personal Story Achievement part of it.

They need to remove the Personal Story Completion achievement from Dailies completely and if they insist on having WvW be a part of the PvE Dailies then they need to change it to something other than player kills.

Options could include: 5 Guard NPC kills, or 2 Supply Camp Captures, or 3 Guard Flag Captures.

Those type of objectives can be done independent of how well your server does in WvW, aren’t dependent on being skilled in PvP and are relatively non-invasive.

They also encourage people to actually play WvW correctly instead of zoning in and asking where the zergs are and running with them hoping to get some kill credits.

I don’t think you get it.

The whole point of “Do five of eight for your daily award” was specifically so that the could add things like WvW kills, story, crafting, kill mobs in zone X, etc, without forcing you to do them. That’s exactly why all you get for going above and beyond is just a few achievement points and a little XP. You’re meant to pick five, but you get a little something extra for doing… a little something extra.

I was pondering the same thing earlier, and came to the conclusion that people would feel pressured to do them all to “keep up the joneses”.

PopeUrban.2578:

Kuishen.6140:

Blacklight.2871:

The reason you can select just some of the achievements to qualify for your daily is so that people wouldn’t feel forced to do activities they don’t like. If there were additional significant rewards for completing all of them, then people would feel the need to complete all of them, and we’d be back to square one.

Achievement points are significant to certain people and I’m not particularly happy with being forced to do WvW (a pvp gamemode) for PvE achievements, I also know people that aren’t happy they should have to create a new character or shout for help to do the Personal Story Achievement part of it.

They need to remove the Personal Story Completion achievement from Dailies completely and if they insist on having WvW be a part of the PvE Dailies then they need to change it to something other than player kills.

Options could include: 5 Guard NPC kills, or 2 Supply Camp Captures, or 3 Guard Flag Captures.

Those type of objectives can be done independent of how well your server does in WvW, aren’t dependent on being skilled in PvP and are relatively non-invasive.

They also encourage people to actually play WvW correctly instead of zoning in and asking where the zergs are and running with them hoping to get some kill credits.

I don’t think you get it.

The whole point of “Do five of eight for your daily award” was specifically so that the could add things like WvW kills, story, crafting, kill mobs in zone X, etc, without forcing you to do them. That’s exactly why all you get for going above and beyond is just a few achievement points and a little XP. You’re meant to pick five, but you get a little something extra for doing… a little something extra.

I don’t think you get it.

Achievement points aren’t just “a little something extra” for some people. Just because you don’t understand the need to complete certain objectives, imaginary or not, doesn’t make my point any less valid.

The fact is that WvW kills don’t belong in the PvE dailies and the Personal Story Completion is down right asinine.

Kuishen.6140:

Achievement points aren’t just “a little something extra” for some people.

That’s their problem. No content is gated behind it, so no, nobody has to do them.

I’m sorry, I know OCD sucks, but that’s not the developers (or any other player’s) problem.

they lied to us.

i searched for the blog posts and noticed that it was edited out.

ProxyDamage.9826:

Kuishen.6140:

Achievement points aren’t just “a little something extra” for some people.

That’s their problem. No content is gated behind it, so no, nobody has to do them.

I’m sorry, I know OCD sucks, but that’s not the developers (or any other player’s) problem.

Except it could be solved completely by removing any extra achievement points once you’re done with the 5 options you choose to get your laurel. Simple solution and everybody is happy.

Also isn’t it their intent to make some sort of system that rewards you for how many achievement points you have in the future? They talked about this when they first announced laurels, so depending on what that is, there could be “gated” content behind it.

Getting 50 silver for doing those extra dailies would put EVERYONE in the mindset that they would also HAVE to to do them which of course would remove the whole point of having options of how to complete them. Honestly 50 silver is a lot of cash for just doing a few extra things for daily.

You mean some achievement points sometimes require things that you don’t want to do?

Anet should get on this RIGHT away.

They have said that in the future achievement points will be translated into some type of reward system. So no, right now you don’t get anything but a little extra xp and points, but later those points will matter a little more, meaning doing every daily available will mean a little more too

Malleus Maleficarum.2603:

They have said that in the future achievement points will be translated into some type of reward system. So no, right now you don’t get anything but a little extra xp and points, but later those points will matter a little more, meaning doing every daily available will mean a little more too

They also said that repeatable Achievement Points (such as dailes and salvage) wont count.

NerdyMike.2695:

Erm… ok.

If that’s all that there is then they really should not have hyped up the “do more of the dailies and you’ll get more stuff!”. The EXP gain from completing the daily is minimal, and the achievement points are just bragging points – you don’t get to use them for the in-game content.

And no, I wasn’t asking for more Laurels or Jugs of Karma. I was just asking if that was all we are really getting – minimal experience, which in my personal opinion, is not worth trying to do ALL of the dailies.

Now if they did it to where you got say, 50 silver, then at least it would / could be worth it.

But I never said I wanted more Laurels or Jugs of Karma. That would just be too OP.

You would think by now people would know not to believe the anet hype machine

Kuishen.6140:

I don’t think you get it.

Achievement points aren’t just “a little something extra” for some people. Just because you don’t understand the need to complete certain objectives, imaginary or not, doesn’t make my point any less valid.

The fact is that WvW kills don’t belong in the PvE dailies and the Personal Story Completion is down right asinine.

If you feel compelled to get all the achievement points, then you’d be in WvW anyway to, for instance, get your ‘1,000,000 supply used on siege’ achievement and title. And all the other WvW achievement points.

Kuishen.6140:

The fact is that WvW kills don’t belong in the PvE dailies and the Personal Story Completion is down right asinine.

o wvw kills belong in pve dailies since wvw is pve

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Kuishen.6140:

The fact is that WvW kills don’t belong in the PvE dailies and the Personal Story Completion is down right asinine.

o wvw kills belong in pve dailies since wvw is pve

Funny that, as i see it more often under the PVP banner (leading to some serious confusion with changelogs).

Olvendred.3027:

Kuishen.6140:

I don’t think you get it.

Achievement points aren’t just “a little something extra” for some people. Just because you don’t understand the need to complete certain objectives, imaginary or not, doesn’t make my point any less valid.

The fact is that WvW kills don’t belong in the PvE dailies and the Personal Story Completion is down right asinine.

If you feel compelled to get all the achievement points, then you’d be in WvW anyway to, for instance, get your ‘1,000,000 supply used on siege’ achievement and title. And all the other WvW achievement points.

Difference being that what you’re talking about doesn’t have a time limit on it. I can get the WvW achievements on my own time, I may not want to do WvW some days.

Kuishen.6140:

The fact is that WvW kills don’t belong in the PvE dailies

Wait, did I miss the part when they added WvW dailies? Because then maybe your point would be valid. These are not PvE dailies, these are dailies for everything that’s not sPvP, that includes PvE AND WvW. You’re still in the better position, you have ONE daily that you can’t do in PvE, while WvWers sometimes can’t even finish their required 5 without going into PvE.

It would actually be cool if the pool consisted of 10 objectives, 5 PvE and 5 WvW ones (10 invaders killed, 10 dolyaks stopped/escorted, 10 dances on enemies corpses, 10 CC enemy off the ledge in JP), so you could either do them completely in your preferred game mode or you could mix and match. Or just make WvW dailies separate, like sPvP ones.

Probably not gonna happen though, who cares about WvWers while PvErs need more pink rings and kitten.

Phoebe Poison.4875:

Kuishen.6140:

The fact is that WvW kills don’t belong in the PvE dailies

Wait, did I miss the part when they added WvW dailies? Because then maybe your point would be valid. These are not PvE dailies, these are dailies for everything that’s not sPvP, that includes PvE AND WvW. You’re still in the better position, you have ONE daily that you can’t do in PvE, while WvWers sometimes can’t even finish their required 5 without going into PvE.

It would actually be cool if the pool consisted of 10 objectives, 5 PvE and 5 WvW ones (10 invaders killed, 10 dolyaks stopped/escorted, 10 dances on enemies corpses, 10 CC enemy off the ledge in JP), so you could either do them completely in your preferred game mode or you could mix and match. Or just make WvW dailies separate, like sPvP ones.

Probably not gonna happen though, who cares about WvWers while PvErs need more pink rings and kitten.

Sounds like somebody is mad.

The simple solution to my complaint is to take off the achievement points for the rest of them after you complete the 5 to get your laurel. I don’t understand how that could possibly inconvenience anybody and it would make people like myself happy.

Your complaint with the PvE only dailies is that ANet isn’t catering to people who WvW only, a relatively small portion of the population of the game. My complaint is that they’re also not catering to the achievement hunters in the game, we technically want the same thing. lol

EDIT: Also I have yet to see a daily where you couldn’t get 5 of them in WvW so that argument is kind of fail.