Condition Damage class that isnt a necro?

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Posted by: Shotzo.6209

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So I main a Power Reaper (minions for world shenanigans) and I wanna try the other side of the pool so to speak, get into Conditions. Ive got a guardian, ranger and warrior, rev sitting around at high levels.. Which would you suggest for a mostly Solo play oriented player (Single queue spvp/Roaming wvw/world completion)

I wouldnt mind leveling something else if it means I can enjoy conditions and solo play at the same time yknow?

Thoughts?

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Posted by: Amaranthe.3578

Amaranthe.3578

for pvp the strongest condi is mallyx rev
the build is super op right now it makes condi reaper look like a bad joke

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Posted by: Amaranthe.3578

Amaranthe.3578

for pvp the strongest condi is mallyx rev
the build is super op right now it makes condi reaper look like a bad joke

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Posted by: Shotzo.6209

Shotzo.6209

Spvp isnt my focus persay, I do it when im bored or I dont want to do a certain daily
I hear Mallyx rev kinda blows chunks in pve content

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Posted by: hipstertool.7531

hipstertool.7531

who the hell says “blows chunks”

condi reaper is the only other condi build besides rev right now
and yeah mallyx is a joke in pve
so roll reaper

how is necro not the obvious condi class?
condi mes is one heck of a joke and i dont know if it ever did damage at all

condi ele? maybe? idk. i highly doubt it.

engineer? i hate engineers. i dont know if theyre good at conditions, i just know that i have issues with em existing at all lol

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Posted by: hipstertool.7531

hipstertool.7531

also,
guardians have conditions technically
and you can literally play them by rolling your face on your keyboard

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Posted by: PaxTheGreatOne.9472

PaxTheGreatOne.9472

As story goes the 48 step condi engineer is/used to be one of the most powerfull condi builds around.

  • Condi Engi: have all fields all finishers and conditions on a LOT of skills.

Others:

I’d only advise against condition thief tbh. P/D & SB Daredevil has some conditions on dodge, and they’ll add to caltrops but targetting those is a full time job. nthen again you can get 2 spike traps, a poison field and whirl and bleeds from pistol or SB. It can be fun to play (PvE only) if you are not in a hurry though…

Most proffesion give good PvE world completion builds (well above lvl 25-30) when using conditions but conditions tend to suck at low levels.

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

Rangers can apply a lot of conditions using sword + dagger/torch and shortbow. Even more with traits and pets that cause conditions. (And obviously more with runes and sigil.)

I have no idea if there are any meta-builds or whatever for them, but I do know condi builds were popular for rangers, particularly in solo PvE or WvW even before the condition update and afterwards some people complained they’re OP.

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Posted by: Beldin.5498

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Spvp isnt my focus persay, I do it when im bored or I dont want to do a certain daily
I hear Mallyx rev kinda blows chunks in pve content

For pve i really like my burning Guardian the most.

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Best MMOs are the ones that never make it. Therefore Stargate Online wins.

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Posted by: Phy.2913

Phy.2913

Dual pistol engi perhaps?

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Posted by: Anyandrell.6238

Anyandrell.6238

Ranger is a good condi if you know what you’re doing.
also, correct me if I’m wrong, about the elementalist not being a condi – then what exactly is a Fire ele doing? Or “burn” is not considered a condition?

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Posted by: Beldin.5498

Beldin.5498

Ranger is a good condi if you know what you’re doing.
also, correct me if I’m wrong, about the elementalist not being a condi – then what exactly is a Fire ele doing? Or “burn” is not considered a condition?

Most fire damage from the ele is curiously direct damage.

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Posted by: Anyandrell.6238

Anyandrell.6238

There still is at least one “burn” skill per weapon. Some of the direct damage is increased if the enemy is on “burn”. I think staff (esp) and dagger are the best example of the burning applied by ele. That is what I meant when I said “fire elementalist”.

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Posted by: Mightybird.6034

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ele, ranger, engi, necro, guard, and warrior can all do pretty good sustainy condi PVE specs albeit some may have issues (ele will generally be pretty glassy)

mesmer, thief, rev have condi specs but are kinda not optimal for PVE. You will still kill stuff though, and they can be great fun if you don’t care about being optimized. Rev has a lot of torment for instance which requires the mob to be moving for its good dmg. Mesmer has a lot of confusion which requires skill usage which is bad for mobs. And thief mostly just has odd applications (has to move a lot, caltrops, dodge mech, etc) but can be good fun if solo/open world.

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Posted by: Shotzo.6209

Shotzo.6209

This sounds weird but uh.. Im missing a few fingers. I really wanted to try out engineer but the crazy rotation would get screwed up pretty easilly with my er probelm.

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Posted by: Liewec.2896

Liewec.2896

for pvp burn guards still melt everything!
also condi stealth mesmer with a staff is really potent and you have a ton of sustainability

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

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Condi engi ftw.

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

For solo-play open-world, condition reaper mix with minions is the best.

For group-play, you’d want to go for a condition Berserker.

These are on base on PVE btw.

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Posted by: Shotzo.6209

Shotzo.6209

I currently main a minion master power reaper who is nigh untouchable in HoT maps .. Funny how that works. Is there anything else that’d succeed in the solo bit for those maps?

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Posted by: Mightybird.6034

Mightybird.6034

avoid engi and ele then.

If you want something new + durable go guard, warrior, or ranger.

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Posted by: Shotzo.6209

Shotzo.6209

Ranger it is then I suppose :O Thanks folks

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Posted by: Mightybird.6034

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for ranger IIRC you’ll be specing for mostly bleeds using shortbow and 1h sword (I forget offhand)

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Posted by: ZeftheWicked.3076

ZeftheWicked.3076

for pvp the strongest condi is mallyx rev
the build is super op right now it makes condi reaper look like a bad joke

Unless it runs into an actual condi reaper which sends it home in pieces with all the condi transfer and resistance corruption.

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Posted by: Mightybird.6034

Mightybird.6034

for pvp the strongest condi is mallyx rev
the build is super op right now it makes condi reaper look like a bad joke

Unless it runs into an actual condi reaper which sends it home in pieces with all the condi transfer and resistance corruption.

hah I know I was thinking it was fairly ironic since reaper counters rev.

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Posted by: Tahm.8290

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for ranger IIRC you’ll be specing for mostly bleeds using shortbow and 1h sword (I forget offhand)

Axe/Torch in both weapon sets. So you can swap and get a permanent 8 sec CD on bonfire. Also 5 stacks of bleeding with Axe 2 and all the Axe mainhand skills being projectile finishers to go with the field from bonfire.

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Posted by: Mightybird.6034

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for ranger IIRC you’ll be specing for mostly bleeds using shortbow and 1h sword (I forget offhand)

Axe/Torch in both weapon sets. So you can swap and get a permanent 8 sec CD on bonfire. Also 5 stacks of bleeding with Axe 2 and all the Axe mainhand skills being projectile finishers to go with the field from bonfire.

listen to this guy that sounds much better

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Posted by: Shotzo.6209

Shotzo.6209

for ranger IIRC you’ll be specing for mostly bleeds using shortbow and 1h sword (I forget offhand)

Axe/Torch in both weapon sets. So you can swap and get a permanent 8 sec CD on bonfire. Also 5 stacks of bleeding with Axe 2 and all the Axe mainhand skills being projectile finishers to go with the field from bonfire.

listen to this guy that sounds much better

What about build wise? This sounds fun o.o

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Posted by: zenleto.6179

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Yep, that weapon set up works well. I’ve been using it for a while on one of my rangers.

Fire up the Hyperbowl ma, we’re going to town!

Would you like some hard cheeze with your sad whine?

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Posted by: Shotzo.6209

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Mind showing me your build? Im curious now haha

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Posted by: zenleto.6179

zenleto.6179

Mind showing me your build? Im curious now haha

I can’t get to anything right now, sorry. I sort of just fell into it without realising since they were weapon pairings I didn’t use on other of my rangers so nothing is even optimised. Standard sort of traiting to take advantage of the weapons and damage, and I think just adventurer runes. I’m sure you could come up with something (much) better

Fire up the Hyperbowl ma, we’re going to town!

Would you like some hard cheeze with your sad whine?

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Posted by: Ananeos.4587

Ananeos.4587

I fail to see how Revenant is superior to Reaper in terms of condition damage.
After all, Revenants can’t even permachill.

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Posted by: Shotzo.6209

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Came up with something taking previous advice.. Do you think this would work?
Keeping in mind im missing a pinky and ring finger so.. I try and make builds that require as minimal piano playing as possible..
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV3fjUqQ5KWzCusAVLWMEM4s6YNt20BOBtAmAwor0VyUKD-T1yCABOoEEgDCAOq/owTA44LAAKaGMwEEWKxyS5xM7PonOAA-w