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Posted by: amidare.9561

amidare.9561

Let’s start crowdfunding project so ArenaNet will have chance to finish promised 2nd weapon legendary set! Let’s say they offer to participants something ingame for donations. Would you use your credit card to support this project?

Share your thoughts.

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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

JustTrogdor.7892

Why should we crowdfund something we already paid for?

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Posted by: penelopehannibal.8947

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My thoughts are if you want to support ArenaNet in this way, all you have to do is buy gems with IRL money.

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Posted by: amidare.9561

amidare.9561

Wouldn’t it be nice to choose project and then support this project? If you buy gems money are spent for entire game. It’s totally different. I’d definitely pay 5€ if they decide to continue with rest of legendary weapons. But in general. Would you support certain project with your money? For example, new dungeons? Or maybe raid wings released more often? Or something else?

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

This shouldn’t be encouraged. It can not only skew development in favour of those with the most money to spend, but we already have the option to support them with gems.

Plus we already paid for the legendaries.

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Posted by: amidare.9561

amidare.9561

We paid for expansion where they promised new legendaries. Not sure if they promised full set. And even if so, did you buy expansion because of new legendaries? Was it a reason you spent 50 bucks?

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Posted by: Redenaz.8631

Redenaz.8631

Pretty sure crowdfunding is the opposite of Mike O’Brien’s “our job is to delight you with what we ship, not promises” strategy.

With crowdfunding, you pay upfront for something you’d like to happen, with very weak guarantees that the final project will be exactly what you wanted, arrive on schedule, or even come to completion at all. Pretty sure that model is exactly what people don’t want at this point, and it doesn’t sound like the experience Anet wants to provide right now.

~The Storyteller – Elementalist – Jade Quarry~

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Posted by: penelopehannibal.8947

penelopehannibal.8947

Wouldn’t it be nice to choose project and then support this project? If you buy gems money are spent for entire game. It’s totally different. I’d definitely pay 5€ if they decide to continue with rest of legendary weapons. But in general. Would you support certain project with your money? For example, new dungeons? Or maybe raid wings released more often? Or something else?

Personally I don’t find Legendary weapons, or in fact any type of cosmetic skin, as “content”. Sure, you can now do a journey to reach the current new weapons, but I do personally think people are getting on their high horse for nothing when it comes to legendary rage.

Of course, others and probably yourself may disagree, but I much prefer the team to concentrate on a new Living Story. Not only this, but I don’t actually believe ArenaNet are having problems with money anyway.

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

We paid for expansion where they promised new legendaries. Not sure if they promised full set. And even if so, did you buy expansion because of new legendaries? Was it a reason you spent 50 bucks?

Not at all, I would never be that crazy. Doesn’t change the fact that they are still part of the expansion and that is fully paid for. All advertised features, even if delayed by x amount of time, should not be subject to further payment.

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Posted by: kamedin.4698

kamedin.4698

TBH, it feels like HoT was a crowdfunding project, very lackluster.

Lyscir – Main Engi
[????] – HoD

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Posted by: Palador.2170

Palador.2170

Let’s start crowdfunding project so ArenaNet will have chance to finish promised 2nd weapon legendary set! Let’s say they offer to participants something ingame for donations. Would you use your credit card to support this project?

Share your thoughts.

This is a very dark and ugly road to go down. It shifts the money focus from gemstore cosmetics to “Let’s hint at something in the game, then see if they’ll pay for us to work on it some more.” It would become financially useful to start projects, then drop them to see if players pick up the funding to resume. Dissatisfaction, instead of satisfaction, would become the money maker.

Let’s not go there.

Sarcasm, delivered with a
delicate, brick-like subtlety.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

No.

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Posted by: Guhracie.3419

Guhracie.3419

A full set of legendary weapons was part of the advertised features of HoT. Why should people pay twice for that? Instead of throwing more money at companies who fail to deliver, shouldn’t they be held accountable? In what other industry would this be acceptable?

“I paid for X and you only delivered a quarter of X, so I should give you more money.”

So much nope.

“Be angry about legendary weapons, sure, but what about the recent drought of content?”
-Mike O’Brien
Because we can’t be angry about both?

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Posted by: Kirschsahne.2081

Kirschsahne.2081

Let’s start crowdfunding project so ArenaNet will have chance to finish promised 2nd weapon legendary set! Let’s say they offer to participants something ingame for donations. Would you use your credit card to support this project?

Share your thoughts.

Uhmm.. maybe you have to learn something here.

A-Nets problem isn’t the funding.
They have a fundamental problem with understanding what Gw makes GW plus
they incredible shy away from anything contend .

They cut corners wherever they can instead of going a single extra mile.
That we are still in the stage of having 60% of the original map and no sign of the other continents after 3 years should tell you one thing or two.

Another huge flag is they scratch legendary weapon sets after a huge wave of cash flew in from expansion money.

And now we should create a crowd funding for a company that has proven over and over again that they have no understanding that people want entertainment and gimmicks or a 2nd job ???

Kudos for your try,
but this train is going nowhere

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Posted by: GreyWolf.8670

GreyWolf.8670

This is an organizational issue, not a monetary issue. So… no. It’s a retail product.

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Posted by: uknortherner.2670

uknortherner.2670

Share your thoughts.

My one and only thought on this is – Don’t be silly.

I stole a special snowflake’s future by exercising my democratic right to vote.

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Posted by: Fernling.1729

Fernling.1729

They should be releasing the legendary weapons without additional funding. We already paid for HoT, we shouldn’t have to pay more for something that was advertised as being included.

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Posted by: Aidan Savage.2078

Aidan Savage.2078

Let’s start crowdfunding project so ArenaNet will have chance to finish promised 2nd weapon legendary set! Let’s say they offer to participants something ingame for donations. Would you use your credit card to support this project?

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I seriously doubt it was a matter of money that kept them from finishing. And come on, something gets canned, and the first thing some people come up with is “lets crowdfund it!”?

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Posted by: Ardid.7203

Ardid.7203

I’d support a crowdfunding for anything that Anet has not promised. Like a crowdfunding to improve underwater content, a new race, or an updated Personal Story.

Legendaries were promised then retired, affect a too narrow section of the game’s population, and doesn’t really change the game itself. I prefer they fix that later by their own means.

“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
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Posted by: Jaken.6801

Jaken.6801

Why crowdfund, let´s just buy gifts for everyone in the gemshop.
That way they get our money and we can even save a few bucks in the long run, thanks to the gift-discount.

Maybe buy some repair canister…

In all seriousness, I doubt money is the core problem here.
I think it is more a lack of focus and that they went in just over their heads.

Money might help to fix shortcommings, but that would mean to hire more talent and that can be problematic on it´s own…

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Posted by: Hybrid.7059

Hybrid.7059

No. Absolutely terrible idea. As others have mentioned already, this issue is entirely an organizational problem, not a monetary one.

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Posted by: Ardid.7203

Ardid.7203

Thats why a crowfundig COULD (A big if, of course) work. Great crowfunding projects aren’t about money, but about accurately discovering the people’s interests, and crystal clear showing development and ideas.

Of course, all of this hasn’t a miligram of weight if the company doesn’t want to support such kind of initiative.

“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
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Posted by: Zergs.9715

Zergs.9715

Wouldn’t it be nice to choose project and then support this project?

We did support the project, it’s called Heart of Thorns. Some of us didn’t like it very much. What Anet is doing is a business model not a charity.

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Posted by: Aidan Savage.2078

Aidan Savage.2078

Thats why a crowfundig COULD (A big if, of course) work. Great crowfunding projects aren’t about money, but about accurately discovering the people’s interests, and crystal clear showing development and ideas.

Of course, all of this hasn’t a miligram of weight if the company doesn’t want to support such kind of initiative.

Crowdfunding cant work. It never could work. Anet’s not picking and choosing projects based on money alone. There’s such a thing as limited human resources. Nor is it as simple as throwing more people at a problem. All in all, crowdfunding is absolutely useless to us and Anet, far more so when Gaile’s stated unequivocally that Anet will have nothing to do with any crowdfunding projects people start. Furthermore, she’s stated that if you want to provide anet more money, then take advantage of the gemstore to do that.
You want them to know our interests? Post it on the forums like everyone else posts their ideas. Want to know more about development progress? Tough kitten, you arent going to know anything until they’re close to done with it.

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Posted by: Electro.4173

Electro.4173

No. Absolutely not. I despise any time someone even suggests crowdfunding for a massive professional company. Crowdfunding is for individuals or tiny groups who literally can’t afford to make something without outside funds, not for people to get huge companies to do “what they want”.

And even if crowdfunding for large companies wasn’t a horrible idea, money isn’t the issue here anyway, manpower is. So unless you’re going to give them enough money to hire two a dozen additional programmers, it wouldn’t change a darn thing anyway.

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Posted by: Rising Blade.9206

Rising Blade.9206

is this meant to be sarcastim or what? just tell mike to remanage the 70 people working on the next expansion to do the legendary weapons, better yet get him off the director’s seat.

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Posted by: Donari.5237

Donari.5237

Posters above have given lots of good reasons not to do this. Here’s another. You set up to let players decide where their money goes and suddenly it’s like a government budget where the poor district can’t get basic support for schools or pothole repair because some other program is bloating up with politically aimed funding. You get infighting over funds, or told “yeah, we’d like to do this cool content but that niche over there took all the money.”

No thanks.

Besides, while crowd funding and kick starting have no doubt enabled a number of cool creative projects to happen, they are far too vulnerable to scam abuse, they feel sleazy, and they are for start-ups that don’t already have a budget in the millions.

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Posted by: IndigoSundown.5419

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I think crowd-funding is a decent idea for developers that have a game idea but don’t have the money to produce it. I think it’s a terrible idea to encourage development companies (any companies, really) that already have a sustainable business model to think they can get away with providing less for the money they charge because people will then pay them more money to flesh out the product. This is a bad idea for consumers.

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Posted by: Ashen.2907

Ashen.2907

I think crowd-funding is a decent idea for developers that have a game idea but don’t have the money to produce it. I think it’s a terrible idea to encourage development companies (any companies, really) that already have a sustainable business model to think they can get away with providing less for the money they charge because people will then pay them more money to flesh out the product. This is a bad idea for consumers.

This right here.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

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Crowdfunding is a bad way to get an MMO company to change direction. The choose priorities based on what’s good for the long-term success of the game, the long-term health of the community. Crowd-funded projects are generally focused on the interests of those willing to pay the most, who are only a portion of the community.

John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”

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Posted by: HardRider.2980

HardRider.2980

Not this kind of thread again.
Please read past threads and take in what people say here so you know just why/how crowdfunding is not a great idea.

Plus… it would take a looot of money as well.

We are heroes. This is what we do!

RIP City of Heroes

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Posted by: Firefly.5982

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Worst idea I’ve seen on the forums in quite some time.

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Posted by: cakemonkey.6347

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Why should we crowdfund something we already paid for?

This.