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Posted by: LoneWolfie.1852

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41 silvers. My, my, my. Any devs want to respond. At all?

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Posted by: Amadan.9451

Amadan.9451

well i tryed the mystic clover recipe and i got 34 crystalline dust, sold for 12 gold something.
if i were to buy it, i would probably ragequit though

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

41 silvers. My, my, my. Any devs want to respond. At all?

Comment on what exactly? That the dust is expensive. Last month armored scales were 37 silver. I’m not sure what your point is, or why a dev should comment on this?

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Posted by: Lafiel.9372

Lafiel.9372

Let’s get it over 9000!!

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

Look, this whole thing is silly. I’ve said this in other threads and I’ll say it again now. Why is Crystalline dust so expensive? Because it dropped a lot more in Orr than it does in Southsun and right now, South sun is the place to farm.

In another week, Southsun won’t be the place to farm anymore, and some people will go back to Orr where crystalline dust drops more often. Not TONS more often but more often. And the price will go down.

Just look at blood and armored scales. Blood and armored scales have come down in price since the South Sun event started. Other items that dropped more in Orr went up in price.

The price will go down again when more people are back to farming Orr.

The next event is a party in Lion’s Arch. No one can farm there. So people will be going back to Orr and the price will come down.

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Posted by: Spicyhash.7605

Spicyhash.7605

t6 mats in general are expensive because drop rates have been nerfed to hell on everything. if you want to get something expensive in game, buy gems and convert to gold.

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Posted by: LoneWolfie.1852

LoneWolfie.1852

41 silvers. My, my, my. Any devs want to respond. At all?

Comment on what exactly? That the dust is expensive. Last month armored scales were 37 silver. I’m not sure what your point is, or why a dev should comment on this?

I’m tired of your tirade too. What anet devs are doing is a soft control on TP prices. Every single time they change or closed an “exploit” or even something that’s remotely resembling farming, they close it down. This happened to plinx, and the majority of CS waypoint event areas. Then melandru came up with hardly any loot to it, along with Lyssa union waypoint changes. I recall even in the past where there’s a troll spot in frostgorge area being nerfed. Recent changes to skelks too.

This is a huge blanket nerf.

Saying armored scales is 37 silvers in the past is really a stupid thing to say. This is due to Anet’s lack of farming spots, and once the southsun thing is over, and the 200% mf is gone, you can be sure that the price goes up again. And I honestly detest that. WE have a serious lack of areas to get our mats from, and once again I state this, we’re at the beck and call of Anet.

What players should have is a clear place to get their materials from, and not some shoddy excuse where “because botters are detected, we will do a blanket nerf and let players dry in the sun for the next few weeks until we decide a new plan to artificially boost loot drops.”

Do you see where this is going? Or are you still going to insist that events designed by anet, a soft approach to lure you in with 200% mf and then donkeying you up with that stick and carrot approach? Where the stick is a slap on the union butt and the carrot is squeezing everyone into the southsun sardine train.

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Posted by: morrolan.9608

morrolan.9608

Look, this whole thing is silly. I’ve said this in other threads and I’ll say it again now. Why is Crystalline dust so expensive? Because it dropped a lot more in Orr than it does in Southsun and right now, South sun is the place to farm.

It started getting scarce before Southsun.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

Look, this whole thing is silly. I’ve said this in other threads and I’ll say it again now. Why is Crystalline dust so expensive? Because it dropped a lot more in Orr than it does in Southsun and right now, South sun is the place to farm.

It started getting scarce before Southsun.

Southsun accelerated the process. Put it this way. Before Southsun, armored scale was MORE expensive than crystalline dust. Now crystalline dust is more expensive. All this stuff will move around as the bulk of the population shifts.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

41 silvers. My, my, my. Any devs want to respond. At all?

Comment on what exactly? That the dust is expensive. Last month armored scales were 37 silver. I’m not sure what your point is, or why a dev should comment on this?

I’m tired of your tirade too. What anet devs are doing is a soft control on TP prices. Every single time they change or closed an “exploit” or even something that’s remotely resembling farming, they close it down. This happened to plinx, and the majority of CS waypoint event areas. Then melandru came up with hardly any loot to it, along with Lyssa union waypoint changes. I recall even in the past where there’s a troll spot in frostgorge area being nerfed. Recent changes to skelks too.

This is a huge blanket nerf.

Saying armored scales is 37 silvers in the past is really a stupid thing to say. This is due to Anet’s lack of farming spots, and once the southsun thing is over, and the 200% mf is gone, you can be sure that the price goes up again. And I honestly detest that. WE have a serious lack of areas to get our mats from, and once again I state this, we’re at the beck and call of Anet.

What players should have is a clear place to get their materials from, and not some shoddy excuse where “because botters are detected, we will do a blanket nerf and let players dry in the sun for the next few weeks until we decide a new plan to artificially boost loot drops.”

Do you see where this is going? Or are you still going to insist that events designed by anet, a soft approach to lure you in with 200% mf and then donkeying you up with that stick and carrot approach? Where the stick is a slap on the union butt and the carrot is squeezing everyone into the southsun sardine train.

Suddenly being reasonable is a tirade? I’m not the one yelling. lol

You seem to think that games should just let everyone do whatever they want with no parameters. I don’t know what games you’re used to playing, but they all put measures into place to modulate loot drops. Every one of them. If it’s not a raid lock out, then it’s something else.

In most games everyone doesn’t have their own nodes, so nodes have to reset longer. In the case of farming, there are some people who want prices of stuff to be cheap and some people who don’t want the prices of stuff to be cheap. There have been people speculating and hoarding crystalline dust since before Southsun (one person admitted this openly on the forums) and they’re holding it to sell until the price maxes out.

You personally don’t like that Anet is closing up these holes where people can just farm all day and make a certain amount of money. I personally appreciate that Anet is doing that. Now if they could find a way to stop those who spend all day playing the marketplace.

I’m the reasonable one here. I’m not basing my entire gaming existence on whether or not I can farm X amount of gold or mat per hour. Others are.

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Lévis.5489

Suddenly, people buying ton of T5 dust to try their chance at the mystic toilet

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Posted by: OliverT.9021

OliverT.9021

Suddenly, people buying ton of T5 dust to try their chance at the mystic toilet

I hope they have better luck than me. Most of the time, I ended up with a loss, meaning, I would have been better off using the monies I received from selling my T5 dust, and using it to purchase the equivalent worth of T6.

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Posted by: Lévis.5489

Lévis.5489

Suddenly, people buying ton of T5 dust to try their chance at the mystic toilet

I hope they have better luck than me. Most of the time, I ended up with a loss, meaning, I would have been better off using the monies I received from selling my T5 dust, and using it to purchase the equivalent worth of T6.

Seems like the breaking point for profit is around 17 dust.

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Posted by: krisztian.6513

krisztian.6513

Well this t6dust supply drop is a bad things but pretty easy to guess why this is happening. I usually dont like Vayne’s optimism and opinion about farming but about this he is right.
If ppl will be driven back into Orr to get dusts we will see the prices fall a bit back, but if not then we got our new most expensive t6 material. It kittens me too as I wasted 250 for mainly crafting cores into lodestones just before this price increase, but thats how things used to happen…

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Posted by: OliverT.9021

OliverT.9021

Suddenly, people buying ton of T5 dust to try their chance at the mystic toilet

I hope they have better luck than me. Most of the time, I ended up with a loss, meaning, I would have been better off using the monies I received from selling my T5 dust, and using it to purchase the equivalent worth of T6.

Seems like the breaking point for profit is around 17 dust.

No, it isn’t. The receipe for upgrading T5 dust into T6 is as below -

1 Crystalline dust + 250 incandescent dust + 5 Philosopher’s Stone + 5 Crystals

1 Crystalline dust = 39s 73c
250 Incandescent dust @ 2s 87c each = 717s 50c

Total cost = 39s 73c + 717s 50c = 757s 23c

If you take the total cost of 757s 23c and divide it by the Crystalline dust price of 39s 73c, you would get 19.06.

This means that if your upgrade yields more than 19 pieces of Crystalline dust, congratulations, you made a profit (then again, skill points were assumed to be worth 0)

If you get less than 19 pieces of Crystalline dust, it means that you would be better off selling the T5 dust, and using the proceeds to fund the equivalent worth of your T6. On top of that, you have completely wasted your skill points in the form of crystals and stones.

So… did you get more than 19 pieces using the upgrade receipe?

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Posted by: AndrewSX.3794

AndrewSX.3794

There’s something that some ppl are missing seems.

While it’s true that the last kick up of dust prices is due to farmers moving to southsun, when they’ll get back to orr everything will happen is blood and scales go up to 30-35s mark – because less ppl farm sharks, karka and skales.

Why?

Cause meanwhile, to push even MORE ppl to southsun where it’s running the event they’ve crafted this month, they’ve butchered CS farming.

When you spend like 40 mins and none of the 4-5 tunnel events starts (across 3 servers, checking with friends), you know that something is wrong.

This means that, southsun event aside, the main supply of all T6 mats (direct drops but manly Heavy Moldy Bags) has been significantly reduced. Which leads to a general up in price (claw+totem near 20s, bones at 15s – madness!). Southsun is helping because the increased amount of supply for blood/scales is keepingthe prices of those 2 mats in line, but how long will it last?
(i severely doubt that they’ll leave a free 200% MF boost after all events are done.)

Dust is the most pressing issue, because it’s used everywhere, should be the cheapest T6, while atm it’s the most out of whack in price. But other mats might skyrocket soon, if Anet decides they’re fine with this state.
Ofc, meanwhile, nobody promotes anymore cores of T5 mats in MForge due to Dust cost. Nobody crafts anymore lvl 400 consumables.
And there aren’t enough dust on the TP to craft more that a couple of bifrost – on the whole GW2 population.

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Posted by: LoneWolfie.1852

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Suddenly being reasonable is a tirade? I’m not the one yelling. lol

You seem to think that games should just let everyone do whatever they want with no parameters. I don’t know what games you’re used to playing, but they all put measures into place to modulate loot drops. Every one of them. If it’s not a raid lock out, then it’s something else.

In most games everyone doesn’t have their own nodes, so nodes have to reset longer. In the case of farming, there are some people who want prices of stuff to be cheap and some people who don’t want the prices of stuff to be cheap. There have been people speculating and hoarding crystalline dust since before Southsun (one person admitted this openly on the forums) and they’re holding it to sell until the price maxes out.

You personally don’t like that Anet is closing up these holes where people can just farm all day and make a certain amount of money. I personally appreciate that Anet is doing that. Now if they could find a way to stop those who spend all day playing the marketplace.

I’m the reasonable one here. I’m not basing my entire gaming existence on whether or not I can farm X amount of gold or mat per hour. Others are.

Looks who’s assuming things now. I am not advocating Anet to let gamers farm as much as they want, I am merely asking what the devs are going to do about this problem. Every single time you post, you make it seem like anyone who wants the devs to do something about the loot drop appear to be a farmer. What is wrong with you, I need to ask.

This is a legitimate problem of Anet breaking things repeatedly, and hey, what do you know T6 dust is used in every other T6 mats ascension, and a lot more recipes. Sure, they “fixed” armored scales, and then when south sun “200% mf” disappears, am I going to assume that blood and scales are going to go back up to 35 silvers and beyond?

You have been posting, over and over again, verbally vomiting all over the forums, and I really get your point of cause and effect. Your posts are mostly antagonistic, insinuating that other people are wrong and you’re right, with the addition of “Hey, dude, you’re yelling” and “I’m the reasonable one here” (which is a whole lot egoism and arrogance), along with the typical “Others are basing their gaming experience on farming”.

It might not appear to be very obvious to other people, but you’re like a jellyfish. You appear to be harmless and seemingly alright, but whoa, just stop wrapping your tentacles around my post, please! Isn’t it enough that you do damage to other people’s posts?!

Stating the price changed for T6 dust because of Southsun patch is largely erroneous, it is because Lyssa’s union waypoint farm was closed down. This sudden dramatic rise came from May 25th, after it was closed down.

I also must laugh at your poor insight at crystalline dust prices. Do you really have any proof that after southsun cove dies, crystalline dust prices will go back to a normal state? Have you forgotten that Union waypoint is still closed? Even if the players do go back to orr events, I’m not even half convinced that dust will go below 30s.

PS: Do I need crystalline dust? No. I have gotten everything I wanted, but everytime anet breaks something, it’s not okay to just accept it. It’s ridiculous and it’s a poor state for the gamers.

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

Look, this whole thing is silly. I’ve said this in other threads and I’ll say it again now. Why is Crystalline dust so expensive? Because it dropped a lot more in Orr than it does in Southsun and right now, South sun is the place to farm.

It started getting scarce before Southsun.

Southsun accelerated the process. Put it this way. Before Southsun, armored scale was MORE expensive than crystalline dust. Now crystalline dust is more expensive. All this stuff will move around as the bulk of the population shifts.

Accelerated. not caused. When southsun closes, the process will slow down again, but it’s not going to reverse itself.
Yes, maybe armored scale will once again get more expensive than crystalline dust, but it won’t make the latter any cheaper than it is now.

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

aspirine.6852

Makes me wonder how much the blood will be after a few weeks of almost no southsun farming.

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Posted by: Rozbuska.5263

Rozbuska.5263

I am so glad I bought 50 stacks for 3s long time ago and never use it for upgrade to t5:-P

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Posted by: Zindrix.1750

Zindrix.1750

News Flash: People aren’t going back to Orr.

MAYBE a few will, but Anet’s already nerfed all of the farming spots there but maybe 1 I can think of that I’ve also never tried.

Even if dust starts getting farmed again, the drop rate is super low and the damage has already been done to the market in the form of demand/supply. The flippers and Anet now control the price of this material and at best we will see it slowly drop just before plateauing again at a much higher price than it was before the Southsun event.

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Posted by: havoc.6814

havoc.6814

Look, this whole thing is silly. I’ve said this in other threads and I’ll say it again now. Why is Crystalline dust so expensive? Because it dropped a lot more in Orr than it does in Southsun and right now, South sun is the place to farm.

In another week, Southsun won’t be the place to farm anymore, and some people will go back to Orr where crystalline dust drops more often. Not TONS more often but more often. And the price will go down.

Just look at blood and armored scales. Blood and armored scales have come down in price since the South Sun event started. Other items that dropped more in Orr went up in price.

The price will go down again when more people are back to farming Orr.

The next event is a party in Lion’s Arch. No one can farm there. So people will be going back to Orr and the price will come down.

Actually the supply has dropped so dramatically due to a nerf to a certain farm in Malchior’s Leap. That nerf will not be undone. This problem will not just go away.

You don’t really have any idea what you are talking about. I see you posting all over the place in blatant defense of Anet, talking kitten the whole time and rarely making any sense. Everybody here pretty much already has you pegged for fanboyism. Your blind faith brings nothing constructive to a discussion; you should just stop.

These kind of discussions on problems – real or perceived – in the game are a valid and healthy part of the communication that ultimately serves to improve the game. Get over it.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

Look, this whole thing is silly. I’ve said this in other threads and I’ll say it again now. Why is Crystalline dust so expensive? Because it dropped a lot more in Orr than it does in Southsun and right now, South sun is the place to farm.

In another week, Southsun won’t be the place to farm anymore, and some people will go back to Orr where crystalline dust drops more often. Not TONS more often but more often. And the price will go down.

Just look at blood and armored scales. Blood and armored scales have come down in price since the South Sun event started. Other items that dropped more in Orr went up in price.

The price will go down again when more people are back to farming Orr.

The next event is a party in Lion’s Arch. No one can farm there. So people will be going back to Orr and the price will come down.

Actually the supply has dropped so dramatically due to a nerf to a certain farm in Malchior’s Leap. That nerf will not be undone. This problem will not just go away.

You don’t really have any idea what you are talking about. I see you posting all over the place in blatant defense of Anet, talking kitten the whole time and rarely making any sense. Everybody here pretty much already has you pegged for fanboyism. Your blind faith brings nothing constructive to a discussion; you should just stop.

These kind of discussions on problems – real or perceived – in the game are a valid and healthy part of the communication that ultimately serves to improve the game. Get over it.

Actually I do know what I’m talking about and you’ll see so in a couple of weeks time when the price starts to go down. Until then, saying I don’t know what I’m talking about simply makes you judgmental.

Oh I see, you disagree with me, so I must not know. LMAO!

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Posted by: LoneWolfie.1852

LoneWolfie.1852

Actually I do know what I’m talking about and you’ll see so in a couple of weeks time when the price starts to go down. Until then, saying I don’t know what I’m talking about simply makes you judgmental.

Oh I see, you disagree with me, so I must not know. LMAO!

Unless you’re employed by Anet and you have first hand knowledge of insider-dev content, please refrain from assuming things. It makes you look utterly conceited, and I can imagine you wearing a smug smile for some inane reason.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

Actually I do know what I’m talking about and you’ll see so in a couple of weeks time when the price starts to go down. Until then, saying I don’t know what I’m talking about simply makes you judgmental.

Oh I see, you disagree with me, so I must not know. LMAO!

Unless you’re employed by Anet and you have first hand knowledge of insider-dev content, please refrain from assuming things. It makes you look utterly conceited, and I can imagine you wearing a smug smile for some inane reason.

Actually I can respond any way I please, particularly when someone says in a post that I don’t know what I’m talking about. That’s the same exact sort of phrase that is the same sort of assuming things. My response to I don’t know what I’m talking about (an assumption at best) is best refuted by saying I do know what I’m talking about.

If you weren’t biased in the first place, you’d have seen it as a response to someone trying to insult, instead of someone talking about facts. But you are biased (not the first time you’ve shown it to me), so I think I should completely discount your opinion.

When you learn to be less biased in your posting, then maybe your opinion will be worth my time to take seriously.

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Posted by: LoneWolfie.1852

LoneWolfie.1852

Actually I do know what I’m talking about and you’ll see so in a couple of weeks time when the price starts to go down. Until then, saying I don’t know what I’m talking about simply makes you judgmental.

Oh I see, you disagree with me, so I must not know. LMAO!

Unless you’re employed by Anet and you have first hand knowledge of insider-dev content, please refrain from assuming things. It makes you look utterly conceited, and I can imagine you wearing a smug smile for some inane reason.

Actually I can respond any way I please, particularly when someone says in a post that I don’t know what I’m talking about. That’s the same exact sort of phrase that is the same sort of assuming things. My response to I don’t know what I’m talking about (an assumption at best) is best refuted by saying I do know what I’m talking about.

If you weren’t biased in the first place, you’d have seen it as a response to someone trying to insult, instead of someone talking about facts. But you are biased (not the first time you’ve shown it to me), so I think I should completely discount your opinion.

When you learn to be less biased in your posting, then maybe your opinion will be worth my time to take seriously.

Yes, when you reply in an arrogant manner, it pleases me to refute you in a particularly biased manner (even if the possibility that the prices of crystalline dust will drop is high). Please go ahead and post your opinions that will be completely discounted by me.

I am not sure how many of you have noticed the reason given for the closure of most of the threads has been because they have devolved into the forum version of a sibling fight without offering any real insight or constructive feedback. I urge users of these forums to please try and respond responsibly and with details and supporting evidence, not just conjecture and assumption. The “nuh uh you’re wrong and I am right” mentality simply does little to convey anything useful or help. Just my two cents, do with them what you will but please do so like a adult heh.

Something that you have been doing all day long. You have no details, no supporting evidence, and “Nuh-uh, I’m right and you’re wrong”.

Just in case you miss that stickied post. Come back two weeks later and gloat if the prices fall.

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

aspirine.6852

You 2 should get your own part of the forum and work it out there.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

that means i get some moneys running fotm >.<

A good thing in a bad situation.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: penatbater.4710

penatbater.4710

Did you guys ever consider that anet WANTS t6 mats to be that expensive? :o

/conspiracytheory

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Posted by: Umut.5471

Umut.5471

It’s because of two reasons;
1- due to southsun, less people are farming cursed shore now (risen types are the main source of t5/t6 dusts)
2- they’ve increased cooldown time of cursed shore events, so it’s harder to farm cs now. you have to wait much longer to find an event. (even with guesting)

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Posted by: Zacchary.6183

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Let’s get it over 9000!!

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Posted by: tigirius.9014

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Look, this whole thing is silly. I’ve said this in other threads and I’ll say it again now. Why is Crystalline dust so expensive? Because it dropped a lot more in Orr than it does in Southsun and right now, South sun is the place to farm.

It started getting scarce before Southsun.

Southsun accelerated the process. Put it this way. Before Southsun, armored scale was MORE expensive than crystalline dust. Now crystalline dust is more expensive. All this stuff will move around as the bulk of the population shifts.

Nah this all started November of last year. The only difference now is that most of the posters calling them out on it last year have left the game now and with good reason. SS actually gave the newbies the ability to make a buck while leveling their new characters without having to run to the store every minute to buy more gems and now that they started nerfing the thing, and since DR hasn’t been adjusted so that new players won’t hit DR while trying to reach and start the events there’s no sense of rewards. That sweet spot one of the devs was talking about doesn’t exist when you hit DR and the temporary mobs drop nothing the entire event for you.

Add to that the manipulated TP pricing and anything low level is completely useless. I feel sorry for the new players I really do. There’s nothing there for them, how does anyone expect them to get enough gold to actually get the runes/ sigils they need to play normally in PVE end game?

Karma boxes don’t work anymore they drop nothing but greys and karma pots. They’d have to waste their laurels on the crafting bags and since people haven’t been given retro laurels for achieves yet it’s a complete waste.

When people started saying “oh well it’s only 25 silver a pop” many many others like me said just wait. Mhhmm now it’s getting close to half a gold per pop. What’s the excuse now? Have you priced the lodestones lately?

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Posted by: darkace.8925

darkace.8925

I feel sorry for the new players I really do.

Sure you do.

There’s nothing there for them, how does anyone expect them to get enough gold to actually get the runes/ sigils they need to play normally in PVE end game?

Let’s assume your being genuine when you say you’re concerned about new players. I doubt you are, but we’ll assume you are:

New players are players who aren’t level 80 and who aren’t going to be concerned with purchasing Superior Sigils/Runes of Whatever. The sigils/runes they’re going to be getting, if any, are minor and major. Most (all?) minor and major sigils/runes are very, very cheap. They’ll gain more than enough money to purchase them in the course of playing normally. And by the time they’re ready for Superior Sigils/Runes, they’ll no longer be new players and thus they can afford them the same way the rest of us do.

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Posted by: Im Mudbone.1437

Im Mudbone.1437

I feel sorry for the new players I really do.

Sure you do.

There’s nothing there for them, how does anyone expect them to get enough gold to actually get the runes/ sigils they need to play normally in PVE end game?

Let’s assume your being genuine when you say you’re concerned about new players. I doubt you are, but we’ll assume you are:

New players are players who aren’t level 80 and who aren’t going to be concerned with purchasing Superior Sigils/Runes of Whatever. The sigils/runes they’re going to be getting, if any, are minor and major. Most (all?) minor and major sigils/runes are very, very cheap. They’ll gain more than enough money to purchase them in the course of playing normally. And by the time they’re ready for Superior Sigils/Runes, they’ll no longer be new players and thus they can afford them the same way the rest of us do.

Just wait until they hit 80 and start going “oh kitten” where/how am I going to get the in game coin for this, that or the other, welcome to the next generation of posters coming here to vent their anger/frustration about the very same things your supporting now, it will be a never ending cycle of this until things change for the better or GW2 tanks.

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Posted by: Amun Ra.6435

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It’s because of two reasons;
1- due to southsun, less people are farming cursed shore now (risen types are the main source of t5/t6 dusts)
2- they’ve increased cooldown time of cursed shore events, so it’s harder to farm cs now. you have to wait much longer to find an event. (even with guesting)

This is very true…Farmers will be hard pressed to return to farming Orr because of this. Tried going back myself(Because I do like Orr) and even guesting there is real no point to farming there with the very LONG cd on events now.

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Posted by: ilr.9675

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Any devs want to respond. At all?

We know what the problem is…. We don’t need them to tell us what they think.

IoW: All other T5’s that are forged into T6’s…. use the same 250 at a time pattern.
But all those Mats can be salvaged from Gear-Drops

Dust can’t. Dust is found like Fine Materials which are nomrally: non salvagable, & only requiring 50 per up-tier Forge recipe… But you need 250 Dust to uptier for T6. And the last time I tried that, I got 15 Cry-Dusts out of 250 Incandescents. It’s basic Math. And Anet is really really good at misplacing Decimal points…. (IE: never attrbitue to malice what can be explained by clumsiness)

This is why so many Focus & other weapons in GW1 salvaged into Dust (& even Granite). It kept Dust demand in Check even when players weren’t spending half their time farming Fog Nightmares like I did….

IOW: Orr being overfarmed was a Fluke. Don’t listen to these people who say it’s just supply and Demand. they’re all wrong. Dust has ALWAYS been flawed from the very beginning. Its sources in Orr NEEDED to be nerfed b/c it was too common there. But as a Staple crafting material…. Incandescent fails the basic math test that Silk, Wood, and Leather set the gold-standard for.

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Posted by: Rama.6439

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Look, this whole thing is silly. I’ve said this in other threads and I’ll say it again now. Why is Crystalline dust so expensive? Because it dropped a lot more in Orr than it does in Southsun and right now, South sun is the place to farm.

In another week, Southsun won’t be the place to farm anymore, and some people will go back to Orr where crystalline dust drops more often. Not TONS more often but more often. And the price will go down.

Just look at blood and armored scales. Blood and armored scales have come down in price since the South Sun event started. Other items that dropped more in Orr went up in price.

The price will go down again when more people are back to farming Orr.

The next event is a party in Lion’s Arch. No one can farm there. So people will be going back to Orr and the price will come down.

People will not return to Orr, it has been nerfed to hell and back, most the mobs drop nothing but porse bones and every once in awile you get heavy moldy bags, I read a post where if you run all of the events in Orr you get between 15-20 Heavy moldy bags, that don’t seem like it’s gonna get a lot of people running back to it to me, especially since 50% of them bags drop silk and leather, and 40% drop T5 mats. Not an exact number, but almost dead on…

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Posted by: Mortifer.2946

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Look, this whole thing is silly. I’ve said this in other threads and I’ll say it again now. Why is Crystalline dust so expensive? Because it dropped a lot more in Orr than it does in Southsun and right now, South sun is the place to farm.

In another week, Southsun won’t be the place to farm anymore, and some people will go back to Orr where crystalline dust drops more often. Not TONS more often but more often. And the price will go down.

Just look at blood and armored scales. Blood and armored scales have come down in price since the South Sun event started. Other items that dropped more in Orr went up in price.

The price will go down again when more people are back to farming Orr.

The next event is a party in Lion’s Arch. No one can farm there. So people will be going back to Orr and the price will come down.

People will not return to Orr, it has been nerfed to hell and back, most the mobs drop nothing but porse bones and every once in awile you get heavy moldy bags, I read a post where if you run all of the events in Orr you get between 15-20 Heavy moldy bags, that don’t seem like it’s gonna get a lot of people running back to it to me, especially since 50% of them bags drop silk and leather, and 40% drop T5 mats. Not an exact number, but almost dead on…

Yeah, this one is right and btw. it seems that the only DE chain worth farming is the one with conquering the gates of Arah. I drop moldy bags and rares quite a lot there.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

Did you guys ever consider that anet WANTS t6 mats to be that expensive? :o

/conspiracytheory

I don’t know about ANet but I certainly do.

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Posted by: OmniPotentes.4817

OmniPotentes.4817

1.
In an effort to curb precursor prices the devs announced that they are working on a scavenger hunt. Now everyone and their mother is hogging t6 mats like it’s going out of style awaiting the hunt; cause once thats out t6 mats and lodestones will become what arm braces used to be in GW1. Ectos are worthless now and will remain so.

2. Power traders/ flippers and market manipulators caught on and have adjusted their behavior accordingly.

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Posted by: darkace.8925

darkace.8925

In an effort to curb precursor prices the devs announced that they are working on a scavenger hunt. Now everyone and their mother is hogging t6 mats like it’s going out of style awaiting the hunt.

An excellent point and one I hadn’t considered.

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Posted by: SniffyCube.6107

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What scavenger hunt? Can I get a link to confirm… also, I made my precursor and it took me a very long time… I enjoyed having it because it wasn’t such an easy thing to get

Back to the point, I agree these mats right now are ridiculous how are people supposed to craft esp if they just got the game and want to make something?

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Posted by: sternenstaub.8763

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I think the prices are in line with the time you need to get other exotic armor.
Crafting a complete exotic, or farming the money for it, takes as long as farming the same amount of Karma or Dungeon tokens for a full set.
Getting all the mats for the legendary should take this long. And farming these mats should not be happening without being part of events etc. Just kicking some mobs in ORR should not reward anyone, and i think thats where ANet is going with this.

The only problem I see are the consumables, that are dependent on some mats like the dust. Maybe they should just do something about those recipes.

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Posted by: JudgeD.5673

JudgeD.5673

Well, the price for T6 dust is over 40s on the TP, meaning it now costs over 100g for one stack. The funny thing is that there’s less than a stack of T6 blood available on the TP and it’s going for 26-27s, which I can only assume means ppl are hoarding it.

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Posted by: Im Mudbone.1437

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Well, the price for T6 dust is over 40s on the TP, meaning it now costs over 100g for one stack. The funny thing is that there’s less than a stack of T6 blood available on the TP and it’s going for 26-27s, which I can only assume means ppl are hoarding it.

Crys. Dust is at 38s 77c and there is over 1000 on the TP.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

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It’s because of two reasons;
1- due to southsun, less people are farming cursed shore now (risen types are the main source of t5/t6 dusts)
2- they’ve increased cooldown time of cursed shore events, so it’s harder to farm cs now. you have to wait much longer to find an event. (even with guesting)

This is very true…Farmers will be hard pressed to return to farming Orr because of this. Tried going back myself(Because I do like Orr) and even guesting there is real no point to farming there with the very LONG cd on events now.

You’ll be replaced by new farmers with lower expectations.

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Posted by: JudgeD.5673

JudgeD.5673

Than the market fluctuated, because an hour ago, I couldn’t buy a full stack of Powerful Blood. My point was, it now costs less for a cmmdr tag than a single stack of dust.

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

You’ll be replaced by new farmers with lower expectations.

Those new farmers will not come even close in output to the old ones. Everything will not return to as it was before, because orr as it was before no longer exists.
Yes, the price growth will slow down once southsun events will end. The price of southsun t6 mats will go up though. And this way we’ll all end up poorer.

But hey, i guess this is the fun we’re supposed to be having there.

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Posted by: Nappychappy.7046

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I have tons of dust from pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-Nerf days.

You are using 21 of 100 infractions ermm, PMs.

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I have tons of dust from pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-Nerf days.

You have dust from beta weekend 1?

Sell and get rich. Then buy it back for 1/4 the price when the market crashes.