Current Status of Pugging Dungeons?
It’s not hard at all. All dungeon scale the players so it doesn’t change a thing that the dungeon is low or high level.
But dungeons are 3 years old so everybody expect pug to know at least the basic about dungeons. If you are new you really need to specified it in your LFG. Otherwise you will get ppl that expect everybody to do their part in the dungeon and can get angry when they figure out that ppl don’t know the path and said nothing.
It`s pretty easy. Just avoid anything like “speed run, x k ap, experienced” for the time being and look for “all welcome” parties, if there isnt one, create it yourself. When me and my friend did it at low levels we didnt have any problems finding people who are nice enaugh to explain and teach us some stuff about dungeon as we go through it.
I did this recently to try a “fast level guide” using dungeons.
Take aways:
1. There a lot of “80’s zerker only!” in the LFG tool, and its incredibly obnoxious.
2. If you start your own LFG “Any Path/Story, Any level” majority of time you will get a competent group.
3. If you know how to play your character, and your armor/weapons are up to date, you can do better than 50% of the down levels.
4. Don’t be afraid to say “Hey, we are new to this dungeon/path” and more often than not, the leader/some one else will explain how each section works.
Good luck! I ran Ascalonian Catacombs to about 64, crafted my way to 80, bought a whole bunch of Exotic Weapons and Armors using the Tokens.
It’s not difficult, but there are some instance hijacking trolls out there. So try to run dungeons with at least 1-2 friends so you can avoid getting kicked by some people out to steal an instance from you.
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1. There a lot of “80’s zerker only!” in the LFG tool, and its incredibly obnoxious.
How on earth is this obnoxious
1. There a lot of “80’s zerker only!” in the LFG tool, and its incredibly obnoxious.
How on earth is this obnoxious
Because it’s so prevalent to the point of completely dominating LFG.
No one forces you to join those groups though, and its not like casual runs cant be advertised because of the zerker groups. At worst you have to scroll down a second or two to find a suitable group..Id hardly call that obnoxious.
It’s not difficult, but there are some instance hijacking trolls out there. So try to run dungeons with at least 1-2 friends so you can avoid getting kicked by some people out to steal an instance from you.
Bring one friend with you and your son so you have majority rule to kick, advertise your own group for whatever it is you need (“story run/cutscenes”, “lowbie run”, “all welcome”), and you should be just fine.
If you’re amenable to having guides, do a quick /wiki read on the dungeon mechanics.
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Because it’s so prevalent to the point of completely dominating LFG.
After almost 3 years of the same dungeons, do you blame them for wanting it to be as fast and efficient as possible?
They are doing it to farm.
Not for fun.
It stops being fun when you do it daily.
However you perceive it, try to look at it objectively.
1. There a lot of “80’s zerker only!” in the LFG tool, and its incredibly obnoxious.
How on earth is this obnoxious
Because it’s so prevalent to the point of completely dominating LFG.
It’s only because casual “all welcome, no clue what to do” groups are filling so fast you don’t notice them. Or don’t want to notice them.
No one forces you to join those groups though, and its not like casual runs cant be advertised because of the zerker groups. At worst you have to scroll down a second or two to find a suitable group..Id hardly call that obnoxious.
You often have to look pretty hard.
I don’t think they should be banned or anything though lol – I just wish there was a flag or something, like a separate LFG for “GOGOGOGO ZERKER” stuff where everyone needs to know every precise skip (which can be fun if you do!), so when you’re doing alts with friends and stuff you don’t need to eliminate all that (and so you don’t get those guys in your “Relaxed dungeon” group or whatever).
Because it’s so prevalent to the point of completely dominating LFG.
After almost 3 years of the same dungeons, do you blame them for wanting it to be as fast and efficient as possible?
They are doing it to farm.
Not for fun.
It stops being fun when you do it daily.However you perceive it, try to look at it objectively.
You’re asking me to look at it subjectively, actually, but to look at it from your perspective. That’s fine, but don’t confuse “See it from my PoV” with “objective”. People are misusing that word to the point where it’s becoming the new “literally”.
No, I don’t blame them, either, where you getting that from? I just think they should have a separate LFG (I mean, I go in those groups sometimes, too).
1. There a lot of “80’s zerker only!” in the LFG tool, and its incredibly obnoxious.
How on earth is this obnoxious
Because it’s so prevalent to the point of completely dominating LFG.
It’s only because casual “all welcome, no clue what to do” groups are filling so fast you don’t notice them. Or don’t want to notice them.
Yeah that’s definitely it.
I’m full zerker but I never ask for that in my lfg and I never had any problem filling my party for the last 3 years so I don’t know what you are talking about.
I’d probably do dungeons at 30 with a guild since most people PUGing will expect all players for a given dungeon to be level 80.
Because it’s so prevalent to the point of completely dominating LFG.
After almost 3 years of the same dungeons, do you blame them for wanting it to be as fast and efficient as possible?
They are doing it to farm.
Not for fun.
It stops being fun when you do it daily.However you perceive it, try to look at it objectively.
You’re asking me to look at it subjectively, actually, but to look at it from your perspective. That’s fine, but don’t confuse “See it from my PoV” with “objective”. People are misusing that word to the point where it’s becoming the new “literally”.
No, I don’t blame them, either, where you getting that from? I just think they should have a separate LFG (I mean, I go in those groups sometimes, too).
No.
After almost 3 years of the same dungeons – fact
farming – most efficiently done fast, zerker supposedly the one gear supporting fast runs – fact
Not for fun -fact.
It stops being fun when you do it daily – possibly debatable, but repetitive actions heavily lean that way
You are wrong, no matter what imagined slight you suffered at the hands of “elitists” changes that.
Because it’s so prevalent to the point of completely dominating LFG.
After almost 3 years of the same dungeons, do you blame them for wanting it to be as fast and efficient as possible?
They are doing it to farm.
Not for fun.
It stops being fun when you do it daily.However you perceive it, try to look at it objectively.
You’re asking me to look at it subjectively, actually, but to look at it from your perspective. That’s fine, but don’t confuse “See it from my PoV” with “objective”. People are misusing that word to the point where it’s becoming the new “literally”.
No, I don’t blame them, either, where you getting that from? I just think they should have a separate LFG (I mean, I go in those groups sometimes, too).
No.
After almost 3 years of the same dungeons – fact
farming – most efficiently done fast, zerker supposedly the one gear supporting fast runs – fact
Not for fun -fact.
It stops being fun when you do it daily – possibly debatable, but repetitive actions heavily lean that wayYou are wrong, no matter what imagined slight you suffered at the hands of “elitists” changes that.
The imagination is all yours dude, don’t put words in my mouth because of your own problems.
If I’m “wrong” you’ll have explain what I’m “wrong” about. If it’s objectivity, no, you are making a “literally”-style grammar/English comprehension fail. You are asking for understanding of your subjective perspective. Nothing wrong with that, but it’s not objective and writing FACT a lot doesn’t have anything to do with your perspective.
The imagination is all yours dude, don’t put words in my mouth because of your own problems.
If I’m “wrong” you’ll have explain what I’m “wrong” about. If it’s objectivity, no, you are making a “literally”-style grammar/English comprehension fail. You are asking for understanding of your subjective perspective. Nothing wrong with that, but it’s not objective and writing FACT a lot doesn’t have anything to do with your perspective.
Yet you are arguing in exactly the same way? In a even more abstract sense to divert from the actual fact.
Irony at its finest.