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Daily Fractal!
So don’t do them then?
Going to try and make this fast and quick.
I do not like being forced to do group content. This isn’t as much of an issue until
we get a double fractal daily.I have a great guild. But I can’t always hook up with a guild group for a fractal run. I HATE pugging. I am a ranger (auto-hate) I am ignorant on the runs…. I am just learning fractals with my guild.
WHY!? are you enforcing this for daily completion.
I love the option fr group play. But do not make daily rewards based on group play or PvP/WvW. You toss down a double fractal daily… I want to see a Big Spender in WvW.
It’s a MMO. There will be some things that will require you to play with others. I also don’t find it fair that you think the PvP and WvW players should be forced to do PvE to complete their dailies when you don’t like being forced to do fractals.
but if you are trying to get a daily completion… a double fractal can be crippling.
but if you are trying to get a daily completion… a double fractal can be crippling.
You do one set of fractals and you’re 2/3 through the daily.
but if you are trying to get a daily completion… a double fractal can be crippling.
Not really, you do the one PvE one you can, then jump in EotM or sPvP and knock out the other two in a few minutes.
You just don’t want to step out of your comfort zone long enough to realize just how easy those other daily options are.
So you miss one day. It’s not really all that crippling to miss Daily Completion one day every now and then. Goodness knows my account would be extremely crippled if it was as I’ve missed several days of dailies.
I see options for PvP/WvW players to get their daily in. I don’t think anyone should be forced outside of a preferred style of play to get the rewards of the day. One of the joys of the “sand-box” style of game is you can find the level of game that suits you …and be rewarded for your effort.
Fractals are PvE. They’re still options for you to complete your daily with. ANet can’t cater to every player’s personal play styles. Too many differing play styles.
I’ll say it again: It’s not crippling to miss Daily Completion every once in a while when double fractals comes up.
I see options for PvP/WvW players to get their daily in. I don’t think anyone should be forced outside of a preferred style of play to get the rewards of the day. One of the joys of the “sand-box” style of game is you can find the level of game that suits you …and be rewarded for your effort.
Those are very small game types which leaves for little variation beyond what players would have normally been doing. Everyone is given 12 choices each day for daily achievements to do with only 3 required to complete the daily.
I see options for PvP/WvW players to get their daily in. I don’t think anyone should be forced outside of a preferred style of play to get the rewards of the day. One of the joys of the “sand-box” style of game is you can find the level of game that suits you …and be rewarded for your effort.
Yet, the activities in the PvP and WvW dailies are not always the preferred activities of people who play those modes either. They routinely have to play a few rounds using a class they don’t particularly like, or get involved in capturing points or killing NPCs instead of roaming, or vice versa. You’re just playing down the fact that dailies in any of the modes often require players to do things they wouldn’t normally do, or necessarily find enjoyable, because you don’t want to play fractals. Well, people have told you the other options, including the very simple one of not completing a daily for that day. There has been a movement asking Anet to change the fractal daily to fractal or dungeon, to open up options for people, and that’s an improvement many of us support. But just removing them because you can’t be bothered to do them or one of the many alternatives is probably not going to happen.
I two man fractals with my wife all the time.
Dailies were pretty much all right before they jumbled everything last year.
Daily Fractal (without specifying the scale) just requires you to do one fractal dungeon, not all four for a full run. Just find a PUG to do the Swamp for the daily without doing a full fractal run.
Alternatively, you can check the WvW dailies; there’s often one or two that you can easily solo like Land Claimer or Caravan Disruptor. As long as you’re at all careful and aware of your surroundings you can do those quickly without encountering enemy players.
Or just skip the dailies for that day. You miss out on a writ of experience, 3 spirit shards, and 10 AP, it’s not the end of the world.
I two man fractals with my wife all the time.
That’s just awesome
but if you are trying to get a daily completion… a double fractal can be crippling.
Only if you insist on avoiding PvP and WvW, each of which have PvE-like dailies.
A tip as a ranger. Daily fractal can be easily done solo as long as you get water fractal. Some of the others can be soloed too but they are a bit harder.
Herald of Ventari
One other things folks may not realize is that when you get a “Daily Fractal” without the specified range (I.e. 1-10), a single fractal will complete that. You don’t have to run a full set of four to get it.
I do not have worry if daily do not fit my game play. Not great reward from daily anyway. Just some achievement points that mean nothing and some chest that have junk. but for daily fractal if it is just that one and not mean do full fractal it take like 10 minute. Put LFG daily friendly in LFG advertise. It fill up quick and done in no time.
I see options for PvP/WvW players to get their daily in. I don’t think anyone should be forced outside of a preferred style of play to get the rewards of the day. One of the joys of the “sand-box” style of game is you can find the level of game that suits you …and be rewarded for your effort.
You are not forced outside your preferred style of play. Fractals is PvE content and therefore it is listed as PvE daily. You already get your free items for just logging in. Don’t you think you should actually “achieve” getting the 10 achievement points?
One other things folks may not realize is that when you get a “Daily Fractal” without the specified range (I.e. 1-10), a single fractal will complete that. You don’t have to run a full set of four to get it.
and you only need 3 fractals to complete the one with a range if you get aetherblade retreat as the third.
I do not have worry if daily do not fit my game play. Not great reward from daily anyway. Just some achievement points that mean nothing and some chest that have junk. but for daily fractal if it is just that one and not mean do full fractal it take like 10 minute. Put LFG daily friendly in LFG advertise. It fill up quick and done in no time.
The fractal dailies’ rewards happens to be pretty nice … if you want ascended rings since they each give an extra pristine relic and I think also a tome of knowledge is in there somewhere as well.
Going to try and make this fast and quick.
I do not like being forced to do group content. This isn’t as much of an issue until
we get a double fractal daily.I have a great guild. But I can’t always hook up with a guild group for a fractal run. I HATE pugging. I am a ranger (auto-hate) I am ignorant on the runs…. I am just learning fractals with my guild.
WHY!? are you enforcing this for daily completion.
I love the option fr group play. But do not make daily rewards based on group play or PvP/WvW. You toss down a double fractal daily… I want to see a Big Spender in WvW.
Just jump in and follow the crowd. That’s how I learned. As far as general combat and survivability? You gotta learn how to do that all on your own and develop muscle memory. You can do it though! Be fearless! JUST DO IT! :P
Going to try and make this fast and quick.
I do not like being forced to do group content. This isn’t as much of an issue until
we get a double fractal daily.I have a great guild. But I can’t always hook up with a guild group for a fractal run. I HATE pugging. I am a ranger (auto-hate) I am ignorant on the runs…. I am just learning fractals with my guild.
WHY!? are you enforcing this for daily completion.
I love the option fr group play. But do not make daily rewards based on group play or PvP/WvW. You toss down a double fractal daily… I want to see a Big Spender in WvW.
Just jump in and follow the crowd. That’s how I learned. As far as general combat and survivability? You gotta learn how to do that all on your own and develop muscle memory. You can do it though! Be fearless! JUST DO IT! :P
I am sure there are also more than enough videos covering everything you need to know. Probably some videos covering things you are probably better off not knowing as well …
A tip as a ranger. Daily fractal can be easily done solo as long as you get water fractal. Some of the others can be soloed too but they are a bit harder.
It’s not just rangers, I can confirm elemementalists and thieves can too.
I’m told engineers can easily solo water fractal too. Wouldn’t be surprised if every class could it.
In addition, Ascalon is straightforward fractal that can be easily duo’ed.
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Mavander, lol
The consolidated daily thread
please voice your complaint there.
(really, please do. I hate the new pve daily system)
really i enjoy the new (pve) daily more than the old one!
personal preferences are different
really i enjoy the new (pve) daily more than the old one!
personal preferences are different
Indeed. and i think the problem for a lot of people is that they didn’t/don’t enjoy either system, but the previous system got you more of the dailies/got your dailies completed more frequently just through ordinary play.
The new system requires you to go out of your way, and because they now give rewards – quite significant rewards, for some dailies – they’re not as easily ignored. So the new system makes players feel like they have to do dailies while at the same time require them to do things they enjoy less – the OP’s complaint about fractal dailies serving as the perfect example.
I see options for PvP/WvW players to get their daily in. I don’t think anyone should be forced outside of a preferred style of play to get the rewards of the day. One of the joys of the “sand-box” style of game is you can find the level of game that suits you …and be rewarded for your effort.
You’re not forced to do anything. Daily rewards are just that: rewards
Heck, I do all the PvP, WvW, and as many PvE as I can every day. That’s my choice, as it is yours not to do them. Sometimes, PvP daily is to cap a point. That takes 10 seconds of your life, and you don’t have to fight. In WvW, the daily can be to kill a Sentry or Guard. That’s basically PvE as you’re killing an NPC. If you can’t manage that, then you don’t get your reward.
Going to try and make this fast and quick.
I do not like being forced to do group content. This isn’t as much of an issue until
we get a double fractal daily.I have a great guild. But I can’t always hook up with a guild group for a fractal run. I HATE pugging. I am a ranger (auto-hate) I am ignorant on the runs…. I am just learning fractals with my guild.
WHY!? are you enforcing this for daily completion.
I love the option fr group play. But do not make daily rewards based on group play or PvP/WvW. You toss down a double fractal daily… I want to see a Big Spender in WvW.
I hate using the mystic toilet. Why are you asking me to throw away 4 things that could at least generate me some gold or mats or luck for one item? Such a waste. Stop forcing me to do it.
I don’t like farming trees/ore/plants in random parts of the map, or looking at viewpoints in random parts of the map, why should I have to do those? That’s not playing how I want? I should be able to get all my dailies just through dungeons and fractals.
Ooh, we’re doing snark now? Well I don’t like games that reduce themselves to checklists of inane activities. Why do I have to see that daily rubbish on the side of my screen every time I log in? At least all the other achievement garbage is hidden.
I do not like being forced to do group content. This isn’t as much of an issue until
we get a double fractal daily.
While I can in a way understand it, let me ask something in return:
You play a +MMO+RPG. A genre of games specifically built around the social functionality, as ignoring it there are much better games around. It seems a bit odd to me that people would not like to group left and right and center. If anything I don’t want to not be forced to group (it feels odd to me, coming from EQ1 and DAoC), that everyone can solo nowadays, seeing how that causes most to do that, which to me erodes the point why I play MMOs to begin with.