Decrease in bot activity? No,They now go invisible

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Posted by: cherrie.8907

cherrie.8907

I was hopeful after hearing about the latest wave of bans on bots until I went to play in Kessex Hills with my alts.

First, I’ve noticed a player mining inside a note, with very erratic movements (chopped graphics) – something I used to recognize bots from. I couldn’t select him because of his placement, so I wanted to wait until he is done. But then he disappeared.

I’ve encountered this a few times and am now certain.

I’ve also stood at Halacon Waypoint chatting with friends and I’ve noticed Juvenile Bears appearing at the zone portal over and over, and then disappearing.
There are also rangers spawning under the teleporter, some are naked, and as soon as they load – they disappear.

A friend told me my description looks like “the old teleporter hack”, no idea what he refers to.
But in either case, don’t feel relieved because of the “Decline” in bots. They are still there, just seemingly invisible to all other players. And now I can’t even report them!

“Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games.”
-Mike Obrien
“We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills” -Colin Johanson

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Posted by: Mutou.1407

Mutou.1407

Botting will never go away permanently. There has been a huge reduction in bots. I am really happy running around seeing real people again. Very refreshing.

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Posted by: SirMoogie.9263

SirMoogie.9263

Bot fighting is an ongoing fight. It can’t be prevented, only delayed. Adding tools to detect only means bot creators have to develop their own tools to circumvent the detection. It’s like security.

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Posted by: Rehashed Jibe Tube.7102

Rehashed Jibe Tube.7102

if you look hard enough you will always find them. I don’t think they can ever be fully eliminated. There are far fewer than there used to be. You arent tripping over them in every zone anymore. Ignorance is bliss.

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Posted by: cherrie.8907

cherrie.8907

You aren’t tripping over them because you can’t see them!
I have no idea how many are out there, hopefully less and no I never expected them to go away completely.

My main problem is: they are invisible and thus you can;t report them in game!

“Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games.”
-Mike Obrien
“We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills” -Colin Johanson

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Posted by: Cleopatra.4068

Cleopatra.4068

Bot fighting is an ongoing fight. It can’t be prevented, only delayed. Adding tools to detect only means bot creators have to develop their own tools to circumvent the detection. It’s like security.

This is very true. The only way to actually stop bots is to remove the incentive for people to make them in the first place, which is very difficult to do because if requires drastic changes to game dynamics that legitimate players would not like, and that game developers would find fiscally detrimental. Additionally, such changes would frequently solve one method of exploitation, but leave others either still available, or create new openings for exploitation. For example, you could get rid of gold farmers to a large extent by completely removing the ability to exchange in game currency and items. Without any means of moving “farmed” goods between accounts, it would be impossible for gold farmers to use bots to generate gold and other in game items that could then be transferred to other accounts for real world money. Players, however, generally like having the ability to share items with their friends, and game developers DO generate a significant amount of revenue off of the sale of the botting accounts (and from banning then banning these accounts, thus forcing the gold farmers to purchase new ones in a constant cycle). It is easy to cynically push the blame onto game developers and assume that they don’t stop the practice because they are making money off of it, but one must admit that if the players were not purchasing the illicit bot generated gold, then the bot farmers would not find it lucrative enough to invest the effort into their end of the cycle. And at the end of the day, eliminating the ability to trade gold and other in game goods between accounts would not truly solve the problem, because then the sale of the accounts themselves would become an issue. Plenty of people would be willing to shell out real world money for an account that had a fully developed end game level character with a nice pile of gold tossed in in the bargain. Changing the game dynamic would only have shifted the problem into a new track, not solved it.

The truth of the matter is that computers, the internet, and all the associated technologies, are a still an industry in its infancy. I would not expect a solution to the problem of bots, and MMOgaming exploitation in general, to be solved any time in the near future.

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Posted by: Indoles.1467

Indoles.1467

I noticed this but I didn’t know if I was seeing things or if it was real. I was farming charged lodestones (by myself), and I would see what appeared to me as a player logging in, chopping a cypress tree, and then logging out. Odd. But then it became apparent this wasn’t the case because of the prevalence. So, these bots know how to go invisible and farm mats? You can tell much fewer of them kill mobs, but I saw at least 8 do this over the course of ~40 minutes on a single cypress tree, so they still much have an impact on the game’s economy. The problem I see now is how this new form of botting will get banned. Without players being able to report them, what will anet do to stop them? Obviously, this “hack/exploit”needs to be fixed first.

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Posted by: BurnedToast.3781

BurnedToast.3781

game developers DO generate a significant amount of revenue off of the sale of the botting accounts (and from banning then banning these accounts, thus forcing the gold farmers to purchase new ones in a constant cycle).

This is not true.

Bot accounts are overwhelmingly either hijacked accounts, or accounts purchased with stolen credit card information.

The number of accounts used for botting/gold farming which were legitimately purchased and thus anet makes money off is basically zero.

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Posted by: Moderator.9672

Moderator.9672

Hi,

Please, keep on either using the in-game tool or contacting the support to report them!

Thanks for your help & contribution.

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