Guild Wars 2

As the title says.

I have never looked forward to a game as much as GW2, and yes it has fulfilled eveything to me i was expecting, and being a long tme GW1 player I was a bit apprehensive as to what to expect as I was expecting major differences that i wasn’t entirely sure i would like. And behold I wasn’t disappointed…at first.

Now don’t get me wrong I am loving the game, loving the direction Anet has took and still coming across stuff within the game that makes me freeze in awe.

But now I am just totally demotivated and demoralised with the experience.

Why?

Well firstly, I have lost all motivation to complete the storyline, not only the neverending progession halting bugs that never seem to get fixed, but once these are fixed and I get to the end, I then have to be one of those people that LFG in chat to take part in a dungeon that finishes my “personal” storyline. I have nothing against dungeons but trying to form groups is not my cup of tea, and maybe I will get into the dungeon scene once I have exhausted everything else I want to experience in the game, but i do not wish to be forced into having to form parties just to finish my own storyline.

So no motivation to complete.

Secondly, the 100% map completion. This is similar to the storyline, its forcing me to go into places I have no interest in, that place being WvWvW. I want to explore and attain all the PoI’s waypoints vistas etc on my own, I have tried several times to go to WvWvW to get my map completion just to find it a chore and in some way impossible, as being there I am now a target as others now think i am part of the WvWvW battle. Either that or these little groups who seem to ambush me know I am trying to get my exploration and just find it amusing to stop me in my tracks.
Plus, yet again progress blocking bugs too are a factor, Skill Points constantly bugged, regardless how many fixes come out. And I just lost motivation to even attempt getting this anymore because of the risk of all that effort to get 100% when i am seeing people that have reached 100% having issues with either not getting rewards, stars next to their names and so on, and the fear will I get these issues too. And even if i didn’t get the 100% completion issue I still have to ask players to please look at my star just to confirm its working. Why something wasn’t implemented from the start where we could target ourselves like we can other players and see our own titles and info I don’t know.

Lastly, i was around at beginning of GW1, and yes it had its bugs at launch, and Anet were amazing at tackling them, and the majority were being fixed regular. But in GW2 the updates and patches seem to be taking their time in being implemented and when they do get implemented the progression killing bugs are still not fixed, with an added surprise of another bug suddenly materializing due to the so-called fix. The big 10/1 update just never delivered, the main game killing bugs never got fixed, and to add to my misery, I now have to try and motivate myself into doing something around Tyria in silence because of a bugged Warrior audio issue that appeared since last bug-fixing update.

I know Anet will get majority of the bugs all fixed eventually, but with more and more bugs appearing on each fix which is making the whole GW2 world less enjoyable is taking its toll on me. I log on and I sit and stare at screen coz I am at a loss as to what i want to try and do since everything I was hoping to do has been stopped dead in its tracks by bugs and forcing me into places of the game i don’t want to go to.

So I think I must take a break, feel disheartened and a bit distraught that months/years of anticipation of this game has just left me feeling deflated.

Hope all the bugs do get ironed out, and I hope to return one day if I can get my motivation level back up, but all this has just kicked me too far down, something I never thought i hear myself saying about a GW game. But I can no longer devote hours to a game that has no goal for me at moment, especially as each liitle extra bug that rears its ugly head is just taking more and more enjoyment out of what i had 4 weeks ago away.

I was looking forward to two games this year and getting away from that other game. One became and utter failure, while another is still a work in progress. Hopefully, things will come together.

Anet has a philosophy of no gear grinding for fancy epics with uber stats. However, there’s a huge grind for skins. I think that splits people down the middle to those that still enjoy traditional hunts for elusive and powerful gear to those that just want to get a few skins and call it a day.

My biggest complaint is that there is literally zero enjoyment killing a boss in a dungeon because there’s no anticipation for a possible drop,your looking for on any chest drop. Where is that last minute excitement over almost killing a boss, or intense pvp where it comes down to the wire. It happens alot in other MMOs whether via raids, dungeons or pvp. It’s not really happening here. The game is a great display of artwork and I did enjoy leveling. Anet needs to make some bold changes on the end game and make the encounters and pvp a work of art as well. I am looking for the new classic MMO.

So far this year has not produced that, but Anet has an opportunity here. Please get bold and create truely exciting encounters and gameplay that makes the nerves go haywire and the heart pump.

what this game needs is more of a middle ground

Something half as epic for half the cost :P

I think you should take a break, but additionally I think a large proportion of your complaints are moot.

#1. You can’t complete things without co-operating with other people. As this is a multiplayer experience that has this a core addition to a single player game perhaps something like skyrim is more for you.

#2. You are upset that you are unable to get 100% exploration completion, because you don’t want to explore 100% of locations. Yes, that is what you are saying.

#3. I think it’s a little bit sensationalist to say ANet are not fixing bugs/only more bugs are coming from the fixes. It is unfortunately common that games have several bugs at launch. The developers are only human and mistakes are made. Even many single player games will have large post launch patches to fix a number of previously unrecognised problems. It may be a better idea for you to wait 6 months and revisit Tyria in the hope that the issues plauging you have been fixed, and then take this into consideration when purchasing your next MMO, as the same will (unfortuantely occur).

Yours.

Aunt Agony

Well OP. We know. Did not need to make another thread out of the thousands we have with the same things. Come back again at a 1 month or 2 for check ups and see how the game is doing. I said it once I’ll say it again. The game just launched, expect mistakes the game IS huge and all. Take care for now though.

Although I myself don’t like the WvW being tied in to map completion I understand why it’s there and I can deal with it. 100% world completion, I thought, wasn’t going to be something everyone expects to cross of their to do list. I actually thought it was going to require something difficult in the ways of exploration so I was a bit disappointed in that regard.

Btw the WvW maps rotate their position each reset so all you really have to do is discover 1/3rd of the map one week then wait till the reset to discover another 3rd.

Rise.9702:

Well OP. We know. Did not need to make another thread out of the thousands we have with the same things. Come back again at a 1 month or 2 for check ups and see how the game is doing. I said it once I’ll say it again. The game just launched, expect mistakes the game IS huge and all. Take care for now though.

Rise, I’m quoting you but please don’t see my reaction as an attack on you personally. I just feel like I should react here.

You mention you see many posts about this very lack of more incentives in the game, which is true: there are many.
Well, I also see many posts stating how wonderfully bliss this game is. I see ‘thank you’ posts for bringing out bug fixing patches, and many more like that.

Both types of posts have a valid reason to be here.
Both types of posts show the concerns of the community playing this game.

If you don’t want to hear another post about one sides’ grieves, than please also tell the other side to stop posting.
We also know it by now: people are enjoying the game, no need for another post about it…

This is a forum for feedback and discussion.
Both sides are needed.

As a beta tester I tell you that you need some patience until at least 2 months into any MMO.
When you meet a problem, open up the /bug tool and file a detailed report, then proceed doing something else.

And yes, some things require a team.
My server doesn’t have a lot of people in PvE (it’s mainly a wvw server), yet I always find someone for those times I need help.
Getting into a guild or four also helps a lot.

I hear you, but that just means you need to take a break from the game and come back. Hang in there, and remember that WoW doesn’t have active dodge and 90s could grief you in low level zones, and PvP is heavily gear based over there too. Every game at launch has bugs, and WoW turned out to be very popular (with typically non-gamer people being a huge periphery demographic for them. Even Chuck Norris is in their commercials) yet I hear its launch was very buggy.

I hear ya.

WvW being needed to complete exploration is incredibly frustrating. How am I supposed to get to an area occupied by another team, and within the play time I have available? What is exploration doing in a PVP setting in the first place? If I want to explore I don’t want to fight other players, while other players just want to obliterate me. I can’t jump to another server since I probably wouldn’t be able to get back to a full home server. And it’s not like I’m looking forward to try again after the reset in a place that is extremely hostile to exploration. WvW is the ultimate combination of grind, grief and frustration for explorers.

Titles. Why did they bother to add them if they are not visible? Players like to show off their accomplishments. Why is this hidden? And why can’t I see my character the same way as others do? There are small but fun elements common to MMOs that are missing here.

Personal story. All missions can be done solo, except the very last one. That’s quite a drastic and unexpected turn. Not that I don’t like playing with other players, but the very last bit of the PERSONAL story no longer can be done at my own discretion and it’s no longer a choice of doing by myself or with a group.

Then there’s the bugs. There’s at least one I can avoid: underwater combat. It’s rather common for monsters to get invulnerable, turn away, get to full health, and then come back to finish me off. No, thank you.

Despite all the great things in GW2, there’s an awful lot of discernible issues that pile up during gameplay. That is demotivating and I don’t see this list of issues being resolved any time soon. Alas, patience is necessary.

I always considered Guild Wars as a PvP focused game so seems pretty meh.
If your server is getting their teeth kicked in that badly it is probably because they have too many PVE-only players. Get away from what your use to some and show some server pride and support the wvw some and get your explorer achievement. Who knows, there may be a little PVP’er hiding deep down inside ya.