Guild Wars 2

i read more and more 3d about endgame, new contents, new spvp mode request etc etc..
i agree with them this game need fresh air (more than elementalists ) btw i dont wanna make the 100000 topic about that, i just wanna ask if u can give us some infos, if u r working on something and more or less when we will see some news (when is ready ).

there is some months we dont see you active in forum, only few and “no info” reply..
could u give some freshness to us giving something? i feel alot of “furstration” and “sadness” about this situation

They aren’t going to tell us about anything they are working on until its basically ready to implemented.

Why?

Go browse some of the old threads screaming about how we’ve been “lied” to, “mislead,” or how anet doesn’t “keep their promises.”

They don’t talk to us, because we players make it not safe to do so.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

They aren’t going to tell us about anything they are working on until its basically ready to implemented.

Why?

Go browse some of the old threads screaming about how we’ve been “lied” to, “mislead,” or how anet doesn’t “keep their promises.”

They don’t talk to us, because we players make it not safe to do so.

lol are you really blaming the players for anet’s miscues?
Its 100% their fault when they mislead players by getting the community hyped about new things they say they are going to to add only to never see it come to bear fruit.
What other reaction could you possibly expect when you mislead a community?

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

They aren’t going to tell us about anything they are working on until its basically ready to implemented.

Why?

Go browse some of the old threads screaming about how we’ve been “lied” to, “mislead,” or how anet doesn’t “keep their promises.”

They don’t talk to us, because we players make it not safe to do so.

I’ve seen this said a few times and it simply doesn’t hold up. It isn’t “we players” it’s " a minority of forum users".

There is a long, and ridiculous, leap from “some of our players have conducted themselves poorly” to “let’s treat all of our customers with a lack of respect”.

you’re right, alot of players is like kids (maybe they really are :p) i dont really asking to have date, but i think if they will tell us what they r working on (maybe something they really things will be implementend in the nexth 8 months) should calm down ppl… also because as player i’m feeling this game dead, i mean, it seems a game w/o support with LS exeption, but alot of things players want it seems to be ignored.
i know they had bad experience with us, as u saying, i know they will think “why we should take some risk as give some roadmap maybe we cant do?” i understant alot of stuff it doesent depends on anet, its a buiseness, maybe ncsoft will change their plan because of gw2 business, and other ncsoft games… i’m not asking the impossible, but i think they should have some roadmap to follow, something they already working on, they should share with us

SkiTz.4590:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

They aren’t going to tell us about anything they are working on until its basically ready to implemented.

Why?

Go browse some of the old threads screaming about how we’ve been “lied” to, “mislead,” or how anet doesn’t “keep their promises.”

They don’t talk to us, because we players make it not safe to do so.

lol are you really blaming the players for anet’s miscues?
Its 100% their fault when they mislead players by getting the community hyped about new things they say they are going to to add only to never see it come to bear fruit.
What other reaction could you possibly expect when you mislead a community?

anet had some mistake on that, but he is right, why they should risk something if after sharing some info’s they should listen alot of flame? if i work on anet i will never say anything i’m not sure will be!! indeed i’m not asking for have some strange or secret roadmap… there is alot of months we will have almost nothing but LS, i think some teams are working on other stuff.
for example i remember one anet stream about a new spvp map for capture the flag or something like that, it was alot of months ago, i think they should give us something are working on, and they r pretty sure will be released in the next months…
its pretty sad see alot of players (i’m in this group) have alot of idea, suggestion, and still believe and love this game, become “crazy” because the game isn’t moving forward

Lian Olsam.9541:

SkiTz.4590:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

They aren’t going to tell us about anything they are working on until its basically ready to implemented.

Why?

Go browse some of the old threads screaming about how we’ve been “lied” to, “mislead,” or how anet doesn’t “keep their promises.”

They don’t talk to us, because we players make it not safe to do so.

lol are you really blaming the players for anet’s miscues?
Its 100% their fault when they mislead players by getting the community hyped about new things they say they are going to to add only to never see it come to bear fruit.
What other reaction could you possibly expect when you mislead a community?

anet had some mistake on that, but he is right, why they should risk something if after sharing some info’s they should listen alot of flame? if i work on anet i will never say anything i’m not sure will be!! indeed i’m not asking for have some strange or secret roadmap… there is alot of months we will have almost nothing but LS, i think some teams are working on other stuff.
for example i remember one anet stream about a new spvp map for capture the flag or something like that, it was alot of months ago, i think they should give us something are working on, and they r pretty sure will be released in the next months…
its pretty sad see alot of players (i’m in this group) have alot of idea, suggestion, and still believe and love this game, become “crazy” because the game isn’t moving forward

Are you suggesting that it’s better to release content and then (when the damage is already done and you can’t go back) hear to the feedback?
Plus you can give feedback on people topics whitout releasing information, in fact, it’s ilegal to release information about some project whitout the leader consensus…

Godzzila.3752:

Lian Olsam.9541:

SkiTz.4590:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

They aren’t going to tell us about anything they are working on until its basically ready to implemented.

Why?

Go browse some of the old threads screaming about how we’ve been “lied” to, “mislead,” or how anet doesn’t “keep their promises.”

They don’t talk to us, because we players make it not safe to do so.

lol are you really blaming the players for anet’s miscues?
Its 100% their fault when they mislead players by getting the community hyped about new things they say they are going to to add only to never see it come to bear fruit.
What other reaction could you possibly expect when you mislead a community?

anet had some mistake on that, but he is right, why they should risk something if after sharing some info’s they should listen alot of flame? if i work on anet i will never say anything i’m not sure will be!! indeed i’m not asking for have some strange or secret roadmap… there is alot of months we will have almost nothing but LS, i think some teams are working on other stuff.
for example i remember one anet stream about a new spvp map for capture the flag or something like that, it was alot of months ago, i think they should give us something are working on, and they r pretty sure will be released in the next months…
its pretty sad see alot of players (i’m in this group) have alot of idea, suggestion, and still believe and love this game, become “crazy” because the game isn’t moving forward

Are you suggesting that it’s better to release content and then (when the damage is already done and you can’t go back) hear to the feedback?
Plus you can give feedback on people topics whitout releasing information, in fact, it’s ilegal to release information about some project whitout the leader consensus…

ofc they should talk about what to say or not, i dont wanna someone will be fired for that i dont know how anet works, i just suggest to anet to give something to players for calm down all this bad feelings we have, it’s really sad read ppl will log for do daily or teq then log out, hoping this laurel or something they will drop will help some future content… i’m one of this guys, onestly i was a pvper and i left pvp cause they left pvp, but i still hope they will give us something important in pve and spvp too… i love this game, i love u dont have to farm as other games, i love the graphics, and if ppl will still write in this forum is because they love this game too, and they hope to do something for the game.

with this topic i’m just beg devs to stop this situation and give back the life this game need and give us something, because atm we doesent know anything, and we dosent have any kind of feedback, like i told before, it seems a abbandoned game and player feel like that

SkiTz.4590:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

They aren’t going to tell us about anything they are working on until its basically ready to implemented.

Why?

Go browse some of the old threads screaming about how we’ve been “lied” to, “mislead,” or how anet doesn’t “keep their promises.”

They don’t talk to us, because we players make it not safe to do so.

lol are you really blaming the players for anet’s miscues?
Its 100% their fault when they mislead players by getting the community hyped about new things they say they are going to to add only to never see it come to bear fruit.
What other reaction could you possibly expect when you mislead a community?

I didn’t know players were flawless beings, perfect in every way.

Forums are echo chambers. If anything, we hype it up ourselves, setting the bar higher and higher, and then blaming anet for not reaching our own hyped expectations. Take the precursor scavenger hunt, they just announced plans in creating such a thing with the usual ‘times subject to change’ at the end. Players ignore the last line, hyped up the hunt, and when it was announced on back burner, players called them liars and promise breakers (if you ever see the line ‘subject to change’, it means they never promised).

And even you just pointed out why they are bly quieter than normal. If they say anything, announce something with the tagline ‘subject to change’, you will ignore it, and call them misleading.

Serophous.9085:

SkiTz.4590:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

They aren’t going to tell us about anything they are working on until its basically ready to implemented.

Why?

Go browse some of the old threads screaming about how we’ve been “lied” to, “mislead,” or how anet doesn’t “keep their promises.”

They don’t talk to us, because we players make it not safe to do so.

lol are you really blaming the players for anet’s miscues?
Its 100% their fault when they mislead players by getting the community hyped about new things they say they are going to to add only to never see it come to bear fruit.
What other reaction could you possibly expect when you mislead a community?

I didn’t know players were flawless beings, perfect in every way.

Forums are echo chambers. If anything, we hype it up ourselves, setting the bar higher and higher, and then blaming anet for not reaching our own hyped expectations. Take the precursor scavenger hunt, they just announced plans in creating such a thing with the usual ‘times subject to change’ at the end. Players ignore the last line, hyped up the hunt, and when it was announced on back burner, players called them liars and promise breakers (if you ever see the line ‘subject to change’, it means they never promised).

And even you just pointed out why they are bly quieter than normal. If they say anything, announce something with the tagline ‘subject to change’, you will ignore it, and call them misleading.

I’m pretty sure that people weren’t misleading for that kind of stuff but rather for this kind of stuff:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/8/4392552/guild-wars-2-developers-eye-esports-with-aims-to-create-the-most

‘OUR GOAL IS FOR GUILD WARS 2 TO BE THE NUMBER ONE PVP GAME IN MMOS…’ – And later kitten all over the place ignoring balancing issues and not developing PVP at ALL.

Also:
‘ArenaNet is currently working to create the first expansion for Guild Wars 2. No release date has been announced as of yet.’ – And later saying: “Nah, we are not working on an expansion anymore”

Godzzila.3752:

Serophous.9085:

SkiTz.4590:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

They aren’t going to tell us about anything they are working on until its basically ready to implemented.

Why?

Go browse some of the old threads screaming about how we’ve been “lied” to, “mislead,” or how anet doesn’t “keep their promises.”

They don’t talk to us, because we players make it not safe to do so.

lol are you really blaming the players for anet’s miscues?
Its 100% their fault when they mislead players by getting the community hyped about new things they say they are going to to add only to never see it come to bear fruit.
What other reaction could you possibly expect when you mislead a community?

I didn’t know players were flawless beings, perfect in every way.

Forums are echo chambers. If anything, we hype it up ourselves, setting the bar higher and higher, and then blaming anet for not reaching our own hyped expectations. Take the precursor scavenger hunt, they just announced plans in creating such a thing with the usual ‘times subject to change’ at the end. Players ignore the last line, hyped up the hunt, and when it was announced on back burner, players called them liars and promise breakers (if you ever see the line ‘subject to change’, it means they never promised).

And even you just pointed out why they are bly quieter than normal. If they say anything, announce something with the tagline ‘subject to change’, you will ignore it, and call them misleading.

I’m pretty sure that people weren’t misleading for that kind of stuff but rather for this kind of stuff:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/8/4392552/guild-wars-2-developers-eye-esports-with-aims-to-create-the-most

‘OUR GOAL IS FOR GUILD WARS 2 TO BE THE NUMBER ONE PVP GAME IN MMOS…’ – And later kitten all over the place ignoring balancing issues and not developing PVP at ALL.

Also:
‘ArenaNet is currently working to create the first expansion for Guild Wars 2. No release date has been announced as of yet.’ – And later saying: “Nah, we are not working on an expansion anymore”

First of, there will never never never never never be absolute balance in PvP.
Also, you read the article right?

First implementation, leaderboards. Check. Second, personal arenas, double check. Third, spectator mode, and triple check. So they did everything they said they were going to do. There was no mention of modes or anything else at all.

And again, at balance, look at the mobas they mentioned, there are balance issues in their games as well, just read their forums.

As for the expansion, I see plenty of articles saying NCsoft said it, and only one article that decided to update with ‘NCSoft expressed INTEREST in an expansion’.

Er… even if that was true, it’s still the best pvp in current mmos…

Also they NEVER-Ever-ever said they were working on an expansion: it was analysts and businessmen from NCsoft who said THEY were expecting one

Paponzi.1637:

Er… even if that was true, it’s still the best pvp in current mmos…

Also they NEVER-Ever-ever said they were working on an expansion: it was analysts and businessmen from NCsoft who said THEY were expecting one

Not true. Not true AT-ALL.
Plus they did activly promote the fact that they were developing an expansion.
And while it’s true the PVP can’t be 100% balanced, so far it’s a joke.
And for someone who said they wanted to have the best MMO PvP, in the last entire year there barely was any patch working around with it.

’A Guild Wars 2 expansion pack is underway, MMO publisher NCsoft revealed in its recent earnings report.

The publisher confirmed during an earnings call it is “preparing an expansion pack.” What this will comprise of was not revealed, while a company representative added that no launch date has been decided on.’

Godzzila.3752:

Paponzi.1637:

Er… even if that was true, it’s still the best pvp in current mmos…

Also they NEVER-Ever-ever said they were working on an expansion: it was analysts and businessmen from NCsoft who said THEY were expecting one

Not true. Not true AT-ALL.
Plus they did activly promote the fact that they were developing an expansion.
And while it’s true the PVP can’t be 100% balanced, so far it’s a joke.
And for someone who said they wanted to have the best MMO PvP, in the last entire year there barely was any patch working around with it.

’A Guild Wars 2 expansion pack is underway, MMO publisher NCsoft revealed in its recent earnings report.

The publisher confirmed during an earnings call it is “preparing an expansion pack.” What this will comprise of was not revealed, while a company representative added that no launch date has been decided on.’

Cool, here’s the article also bout the conference call, with the update in red.
http://www.destructoid.com/arenanet-is-working-on-a-guild-wars-2-expansion-update--253646.phtml

I just finished watching the second preview of profession changes that might come, which they encourage us to discuss on the forums. It’s not like they don’t talk to us at all.

Rouven.7409:

I just finished watching the second preview of profession changes that might come, which they encourage us to discuss on the forums. It’s not like they don’t talk to us at all.

Yes, except players will see it as ‘look at the changes anet just promised us!’ And even though they say discuss, if no one responds ‘anet lied again!’

SkiTz.4590:

lol are you really blaming the players for anet’s miscues?
Its 100% their fault when they mislead players by getting the community hyped about new things they say they are going to to add only to never see it come to bear fruit.
What other reaction could you possibly expect when you mislead a community?

Yes, I very much blame the community and it’s not like this is something new. We did this back in GW1 as well. There is a trend here, and while it may not be completely the players’ fault, a big chunk of that responsibility does fall squarely on our shoulders. If you look back at the beginning, they did talk to us a heck of a lot more. If you follow that trail, you’ll see players becoming more and more acidic in their responses until eventually, Anet just clams up. And can you blame them? Really? Would you want to deal with the bullkitten we spew? I sure as hell wouldn’t

Godzzila.3752:

Everytime I hear this I have a small seizure. This must be some kind of inside joke I’m not aware of.
They don’t say anything because of their incompetence / not caring at all.
I have been in a gigantic amount of game-forums and this is the first time I have ever heard such thing. I guess it’s a way for some people to keep their image of Anet as being a perfect company or something like that, I’m not sure.

As someone else has already pointed out, this is a very good example of why Anet does not talk to us. Need more? How about the threads that go on and on about how the manifesto lied. How about the one in the crafting section not even a month back about how they lied to us about the precursor scavenger hunt being a promise. How about the variety that have been right here in general chat – ‘2014 is now half gone’ is probably one of the most recent, but there are many more.

I have never once said Anet was a perfect company, and I have also voiced that I feel that they should talk to us here more. At the very least, they do still interact with us on the various social media. However, I can understand why they don’t here, and can’t blame them either. As I said above, I wouldn’t want to have to deal with a lot of the people on here, because if I were in there shoes, I’d pull the plug on the game and tell everyone to gfy, but that’s how I function. Instead, they plug on. Oh sure, there’s money involved, but people can really only take so much bile before it wears them down and they don’t give a rats kitten anymore.

CrashTestAuto.9108:

I’ve seen this said a few times and it simply doesn’t hold up. It isn’t “we players” it’s " a minority of forum users".

There is a long, and ridiculous, leap from “some of our players have conducted themselves poorly” to “let’s treat all of our customers with a lack of respect”.

Except that its the forum minority that’s doing the kittening about them not talking to us. When it’s the forum minority that caused the issue to begin with. That’s the issue here.

The people on the social media feeds, the people in the game that don’t flutter about on here, they don’t care, they aren’t the one’s complaining. The devs are still talking to them. My guildie ran into a dev in DR last week, I saw Kate hanging out in Heart of the Mists not long ago. I see all sorts of facebook posts and tweets. Hell, they roleplay their main characters on twitter (which can be amusing to watch) and respond in character to players’ tweets. They have the twitch streams every friday. The only people unhappy are the forum goers, and we are the cause of the issue here.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

They aren’t going to tell us about anything they are working on until its basically ready to implemented.

Why?

Go browse some of the old threads screaming about how we’ve been “lied” to, “mislead,” or how anet doesn’t “keep their promises.”

They don’t talk to us, because we players make it not safe to do so.

100% this

Well, I seem to be missing the most cantankerous posts.

It would be nice to get another ‘State of the Game’ blog, but I can certainly understand why many Devs don’t post on the forums. It’s the same reason the new forum rules were enacted, and why Chris told us that many of the Devs feel trepidation about posting here.

As much as I’d like a roadmap for upcoming content and features, I’m willing to wait and be surprised! =)

I don’t buy the whole “the community is at fault for the dev silence” nonsense.

Look at the way the devs responded to legitimate feedback during beta and on the test server (yes there is/was one). Essentially it amounted to “if you don’t have enough positive to say, we’re going to stop communicating with you.” The players were cordial, helpful, thorough in their documentation of bugs and they got a response that one would expect from a petulant middle-schooler.

There’s a reason that the entire rosters of the first few batches of guilds invited to the test server have left the game. If there’s any lingering animosity towards the devs in terms of communication, it’s well deserved.

NewTrain.7549:

I don’t buy the whole “the community is at fault for the dev silence” nonsense.

Look at the way the devs responded to legitimate feedback during beta and on the test server (yes there is/was one). Essentially it amounted to “if you don’t have enough positive to say, we’re going to stop communicating with you.” The players were cordial, helpful, thorough in their documentation of bugs and they got a response that one would expect from a petulant middle-schooler.

There’s a reason that the entire rosters of the first few batches of guilds invited to the test server have left the game. Of there’s any lingering animosity towards the devs in terms of communication, it’s well deserved.

your argoument is right, it’s a part of their job stay in contact with community they should know we have flaming kids and mature people, every game have it.
thinking about that i’m starting to think they cannot be “offended” for that, it’s a part of the “game” they cannot make happy everyone that’s obvious, but their silence is growing up rage and disappointment of players… i hope to shake them out and say something with a reply, a video or a new topic with the SOTG, just to say “hey guys we r working on some big feature community want” we can show you or tell will be ready in nexht 6 months, 2 years etc etc, just for give an anchor to players.

i’m looking other good games, i already saw an interesting one will be released in next months cause gw2 atm doesent give me nothing, i’ve start as pvper, i left it cause spvp is abbandoned, its become just a way for make some more AP, so i joined more pve, but now we have same situation.. i love the casual state of this game, i mean u dont need to farm every day, it’s one of the biggest quality imo, but they should also give more as pve endgame, a real and vorious pvp…
i know alot of players had gw1 and buyed gw2 cause the 1 it was awesome, and they believed in ANET, onestly if situation will not change i dont think i will buy more game of this team, and this is pretty sad, because i think they done an awesome job, but i dont really like this abbandoned situations, never saw stuff like that in other games and this is scares me

@Lian

i hope to shake them out and say something with a reply, a video or a new topic with the SOTG, just to say “hey guys we r working on some big feature community want” we can show you or tell will be ready in nexht 6 months, 2 years etc etc, just for give an anchor to players.

You can read the Dev Tracker, they said they are working on new stuff coming for PvP in the next six months, 2 years, whenever. There you go. They said something, just in the last day or so.