Diminishing returns and map completion

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Posted by: HenleyLegoMan.4987

HenleyLegoMan.4987

Just wondering if anyone had any idea as to how DR would affect someone (like me) who is currently mapping each are with 15 chars one area at a time?

I read somewhere that for pve DR kicks in after about 30 minutes. Now call me a slow player, but there are not that many areas if any that can be done in less than half an hour. Yet I will get DR for doing something other than farming, which surely isn’t right?

Surely Anet know this regarding mapping, so I’m a bit miffed that it they assume someone who is mapping an area can either do it in less than 30 minutes or considered to be “farming”.

If you have any ideas or information regarding DR, maybe from your own experiences then I would love to hear them :-)

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Posted by: starlinvf.1358

starlinvf.1358

Map clear chests follow the same rules as any other chest when it come to drops…. no DR, and in this case, only claim per character. What you might encounter, but probably won’t, is a decrease in mob drops.

But the Anti-farm protection hasn’t mattered since Champ bags were introduced; As DR behavior focuses on repeated mob kills in an area, but champ bags encourage people to wander around a lot. If you’re in an area like Silverwastes, where the majority of mobs don’t drop loot, DR isn’t even a concern with the pop up chests.

Prior to this, people used to focus on the same tiny area of a map that had mobs with the drop tables you wanted. But even then, the efficiency of K-trains, and their tendency to move around, mostly eliminated any DR interference back in the old days.

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Posted by: HenleyLegoMan.4987

HenleyLegoMan.4987

Ok, that explains it better for me! Thank you for taking the time to reply :-)

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

If you’re doing map completion it’s highly unlikely you’ll hit diminishing-returns.

Diminishing returns only actually affects a few specific activities. The most obvious is dungeon runs – if you do the same path multiple times a day the reward from the end boss will drop each time.

In the open world it affects event rewards and loot from enemies. If you do the same dynamic events multiple times without leaving the area in between, or are constantly going in a loop killing the same enemies, then over time the rewards will drop.

But if you’re doing map completion that means you’re moving around the map, not staying in one area, and you’re unlikely to do the same events or kill the same enemies more than once or twice in a day. So you’ll never hit diminishing returns.

Also even if you did get it the only thing that would be affected is loot from those specific enemies and rewards from those events. For example people often get DR if they do the maize balm farming in Bloodtide Coast. But even if they don’t leave the map if they go and do the Jungle Wurm event or fight the pirates or whatever they’ll get normal loot again. Or if they switch to a different character.

I’ve hit it occasionally myself, mainly during Halloween when I was running around the Labyrinth farming the mobs and events. But if I went to LA, emptied out my bags and went back I’d get normal loot again.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

You aren’t going to hit DR doing map completion on different characters.

  • Completion requires you to move around the map, which breaks DR.
  • Any hidden DR points you pick up are character bound; when you switch, each character starts fresh until you return to the original character. And if you keep moving around, see the first point: you break DR.

tl;dr you’ll be fine.

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