Guild Wars 2

So yeah, I know salvaging kit rarity does matter in some instances. But say I am salvaging a piece of clothing for example. This piece of clothing is a robe, you are supposed to get 2-3 scraps of x, and a chance at a rarer material scraps of y.

If we take a heavy chest piece in the level range of 50-60, we can either get 1-3 plat ores, and rare finds of mithril ore. Since plat ores are more valuable than mithril, then you should be getting the crude salvaging kit to ensure you don’t get any mithril. However, does that also affect the amount of plat ores you get. If I use a crude salvaging kit will I get 1 ore, and if I use a fine one will I get 3, because getting 3 plat ores is also rare? Or does salvaging kit rarity only affect the type of item, not the quantity.

Reason why I am asking is because I made a video on YouTube below, and one of my viewers stated that I was wasting gold when buying fine salvaging kits to salvage my items because I was getting rare materials, such as mithril which is less valuable then plat. I responded with that I bought the fine to ensure that I get 3 plat ores, instead of 2 or 1. He responded then that it salvaging kit rarity did not affect the quantity only the item type, hence quality.

Conversation in comments are between GSmaniamsmart (me) and bobogroda (viewer I spoke of).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIwu6f3QCAw

Interesting. Never thought about using a worse kit to avoid cheaper yet higher tier material.

As for amount of material, I don’t think it matters other than chance for Ectos.

The average amount of common mats you get is not influenced by the rarity of the kit but the item you salvage.
A chestpiece yields more than a glove, a 2 handed weapon yields more than a 1 handed weapon.

So in your instance, you should use a crude kit to get more plat than mithril.

However, i did some research on the chance to salvage rarer materials from each kit and with different salvageable items and it seems that every item has an internal chance to salvage a higher tier material to which the higher chance of each kit gets applied.

So with crude kits, which dont give a bonus, you will still see some mithril being salvaged, while using a rare kit wont give you mithril instead of plat on every 4th salvage because the 25% chance gets applied to the internal chance of the salvaged item (which i believe to be around 10% for most armor, weapons and trinkets).

Wanze.8410:

The average amount of common mats you get is not influenced by the rarity of the kit but the item you salvage.
A chestpiece yields more than a glove, a 2 handed weapon yields more than a 1 handed weapon.

True, but I do remember salvaging a chestplate and sometimes getting 2, other times getting 3. So I was wondering if that is affected by the rarity. But that’s pretty interesting that each item still has its own percentage of rare materials through salvage.

maniamsmart.7981:

Wanze.8410:

The average amount of common mats you get is not influenced by the rarity of the kit but the item you salvage.
A chestpiece yields more than a glove, a 2 handed weapon yields more than a 1 handed weapon.

True, but I do remember salvaging a chestplate and sometimes getting 2, other times getting 3. So I was wondering if that is affected by the rarity. But that’s pretty interesting that each item still has its own percentage of rare materials through salvage.

Or there’s a possibility that even the crude salvage kit has some chance to salvage rarer materials, it’s just not described on the tooltip. Maybe the chance is same as the “upgrade recovery” chance, which seems to be around 5% according to wiki.

maniamsmart.7981:

Wanze.8410:

The average amount of common mats you get is not influenced by the rarity of the kit but the item you salvage.
A chestpiece yields more than a glove, a 2 handed weapon yields more than a 1 handed weapon.

True, but I do remember salvaging a chestplate and sometimes getting 2, other times getting 3. So I was wondering if that is affected by the rarity. But that’s pretty interesting that each item still has its own percentage of rare materials through salvage.

2 vs. 3 mats is not affected by the rarity of the kit
platinum vs. mithril is affected by the rarity of the kit (as Wanze said)
You might enjoy reading: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/crafting/Salvage-Rates-results-on-rarity-of-Kit/first

Some average drop rates of items:
Long Bow / Short Bow / Staff / Trident = 1.85 wood logs
Scepter / Torch = 1.1 wood logs
Focus = 1 wood log
Hammer / Harpoon Gun / Spear = 0.9 wood logs + 0.9 ore
Axe / Mace / Pistol / Rifle = 0.6 wood logs + 0.6 ore
Shield = 0.5 wood logs + 0.5 ore (sometimes give wood planks)
Greatsword = 1.8 ore
Sword / Dagger / Warhorn = 1.2 ore
heavy coat = 2.45 ore
heavy other armor = 1.35 ore
medium coat = 3.1 leather sections
medium other armor = 2.1 leather sections
back piece = 2 leather sections
light coat = 3.1 cloth scraps
light other armor = 2.1 cloth scraps
Amulet / Ring / Accessory = ?? ore (I haven’t tested this yet)

Some data and recommendations on salvage kits:
Crude: 2c/use, ~10% chance of promotion, ~5% chance of socket
Basic/SoM: 3c/use, ~11% chance of promotion, 20% chance of socket (use if socket > 9c)
Fine: 11c/use, ~13% chance of promotion, 40% chance of socket (use if socket > 40c)
Journeyman: 32c/use, ~14% chance of promotion, 60% chance of socket (use if socket >1s)
Master: 61c/use, ~15% chance of promotion, 80% chance of socket (use if socket >1s47c)
Free Mystic: 10c/use, same as Master (use if socket > 12c)
Paid Mystic: ~10s/use, same as Master (too expensive; use Master instead)
Black Lion: ~2g/use, ~17% chance of promotion, 100% chance of socket (use if socket + inscription/insignia > 70% of price to buy 100 gems ~10g)

Your kit choice could also be affected by your platinum vs. mithril example.
personally, the difference in chance of getting a higher tier is so small that the difference between kits is only a couple copper, which is not worth the hassle, so I find it easier to just salvage everything with crude or basic or CFSoM.
Except for rares and exotics. Always use at least a Master kit if there is a chance of ectos. (also, you probably want to use a master kit just for the major rune)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/Mystic-s-Gold-Profiting-Guide/first#post4340574 might also interest you.

Unless I need runes (Black Lion Salvage Kit) or Ecto (whatever the Rare kit is called) I generally go for the cheapest kit with the most charges. I don’t want to be bothered being cheap and lugging around an inventory full of 15 charge salvage kits (or worse).

Yeah. I have the copper-fed salvage kit and I use it on everything but rares and exotics. I use the BLSK for exotics and Mystics for rares.

I followed some of the research done by Wanze and also your posts Mystic, but I’m still confused about the stated rate on the kits. I’d like ANet to chime in and explain what it really means and fix the tooltip or the rates.

You are correct that it’s not worth the hassle if you have lots of gold. I wanted to come up with tipping points in the difference of value of the materials you get and thus which salvage kit would be the best to use on items below Rare quality. Given these findings my math obviously is wrong and given the difference in pricing of the kits it would mean that the crude kit is the only worthwhile for Basic/Fine items and the basic kit whenever there is an upgrade (as even the vendor value of runes/sigils offsets the cost vs the crude kit).

Originally I thought using the Fine kit is better for Heavy L70-80 armor and weapons because of the higher value of Ori/Anchient.

I just fine salvage kit all the things.

(unless I really want a rune or sigil, then that’s black lion kit ofc)

Fine Salvage kit master race.