Normally I’m not one to complain about black lion skins or anything outside of WvW, really, but I’ve got something that’s been kind of bothering me.
My friend recently bought himself the Dominator’s Staff. It’s really a great skin and the colors are quite nice for certain character designs, such as one of my characters. However, and here’s the major concern for the weapon designs I’m seeing more and more: it seems like a lot of these skins are just recolors of other skins, not new skins altogether. That’s a huge let down.
Look at the Dominator’s Focus or Longbow. Tell me you haven’t seen those skins before in this game (in different colors). The focus looks a lot like a number of other foci, but I’m mostly thinking of the longbow looking an awful lot like the ascended longbow.
Maybe I’m just overly tired while looking at these things, because realistically how many times can you reinvent the longbow (and like I said, some of them look really cool) but some of these skins are disappointingly similar to the skins we’ve already got aside from color. How many foci do I need that are little triangular dagger-like things in my left hand?
I think dominator skin is awesome, finally a staff that looks like it could be a melee weapon too. goodbye reclaimed skin
he isnt saying they arent awesome. he is saying they are a blatant lazy recolor of another item that people already have, and thats not fair to players to demand we buy things that arent unique or new. *coughhawkwingscough
I think dominator skin is awesome, finally a staff that looks like it could be a melee weapon too. goodbye reclaimed skin
he isnt saying they arent awesome. he is saying they are a blatant lazy recolor of another item that people already have, and thats not fair to players to demand we buy things that arent unique or new. *coughhawkwingscough
How is ANet demanding we buy them? It’s offered to us as something to buy, but certainly not demanded. Don’t want to try for them, don’t spend money/gold on keys. Don’t like them, don’t buy them off the trading post. Fairness has nothing to do with optional purchases.
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Just look at the champion box weapons. Most of them aren´t new things, but reused assets, found somwhere else in the game.
Add a clean texture here, some magical effects fairy dust there, maybe something moving on the handle.
Voila, new weapon.
But in all seriousnes, using the basic template to create a new weapon or give it a new spin is just cost effiecient and I personaly don´t mind it, if they don´t go too far.
I mean, ascended weapnons are based on the first wintersday gemstore weapons way back.
Just look at the champion box weapons. Most of them aren´t new things, but reused assets, found somwhere else in the game.
Add a clean texture here, some magical effects fairy dust there, maybe something moving on the handle.
Voila, new weapon.
But in all seriousnes, using the basic template to create a new weapon or give it a new spin is just cost effiecient and I personaly don´t mind it, if they don´t go too far.
I mean, ascended weapnons are based on the first wintersday gemstore weapons way back.
Normally I’m not one to complain about black lion skins or anything outside of WvW, really, but I’ve got something that’s been kind of bothering me.
My friend recently bought himself the Dominator’s Staff. It’s really a great skin and the colors are quite nice for certain character designs, such as one of my characters. However, and here’s the major concern for the weapon designs I’m seeing more and more: it seems like a lot of these skins are just recolors of other skins, not new skins altogether. That’s a huge let down.
Look at the Dominator’s Focus or Longbow. Tell me you haven’t seen those skins before in this game (in different colors). The focus looks a lot like a number of other foci, but I’m mostly thinking of the longbow looking an awful lot like the ascended longbow.
Maybe I’m just overly tired while looking at these things, because realistically how many times can you reinvent the longbow (and like I said, some of them look really cool) but some of these skins are disappointingly similar to the skins we’ve already got aside from color. How many foci do I need that are little triangular dagger-like things in my left hand?
As much as I would like to agree, dominator weapons have no similarity to any ascended weapons, or any for that matter. If you compare them side by side, there is nothing similar, at all. As for focus weapons, yeah a lot of focus skins have similar concepts, but your point really fails to prove any point with your statements. A focus is usually a representation of the magic or theme of magic you are casting. In some cases you could say it might represent your character based on how you wish him to be— which is why there are plenty of skins to choose from. I like double spike looking foci because it represents power in my opinion.
Sure some skins are revamped in form of the weapon they wish to represent, but the points you make have no correlation to the facts you state. Yes longbows should look like longbows, and daggers should look and feel like daggers— that would be the intended concept behind them. Honestly the dominator weapons are a breath of fresh air in terms of weapon skins because some sets like plasma(jedi would be disappointed), soaring, merciless etc felt underwhelming and screamed of low-res lazy texturing, but were not re-skins to say the least.
This set is definitely more unique than most, but I feel as if your argument is more misguided than it is clear. If one thing is true, you are always seeing more and more skins.
I think that especially the Dominator skins are something new. You can only redesign a bow to an extend, otherwise it wouldn’t look like a bow anymore. But I actually think that their masterpiece is the staff.
I got it for my revenant who’s staff animations I always liked better than my thiefs’ who I don’t play with staff. Also my thief should have everything in black and the dominator skins can’t decide which colour they want to be.
Long story short: Thief staff animation looks soo much better with Dominator’s staff. I hope to find something similar in plain black some day. But really – that blew me away.
I think dominator skin is awesome, finally a staff that looks like it could be a melee weapon too. goodbye reclaimed skin
he isnt saying they arent awesome. he is saying they are a blatant lazy recolor of another item that people already have, and thats not fair to players to demand we buy things that arent unique or new. *coughhawkwingscough
Oh so there’s another staff skin that looks like Dominator but without the hippie glow?
What’s it called I must have it! This way I can leave Dominator skin to my Sylvari and have a non glow one for my human thief.
I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.
A bat’leth would be a bit more practical than the dominator staff. Mostly because the bat’leth wouldn’t interfere with it’s intended use. If the dominator staff was a Klingon weapon then at least there would be a lore reason for that horrible square shaft.
TBH it could be they are doing these recolours because there are posts now and then on the forums asking to allow us to dye our weapons. I think it would probably be impossible to add that function to the game now (or at least far too much work). So if anything at least they are sort of doing this?
However I am personally disgusted when they advertise NEW skins that are just recolours. Just strait up call them recolours for goodness sake lol.
Since when did this business of being a hero become being a business?
I think dominator skin is awesome, finally a staff that looks like it could be a melee weapon too. goodbye reclaimed skin
Looks like it could be a typical impractical fantasy melee weapon…
Reminded me of Big Bang Theory Tbh
Centurion’s Claw ^^
My brain just had an orgasm, thankyou.
Edit: (Is there a staff version?)
No, no staff. It’s also a Guild Wars 2 Heritage skin so only available to those with a certain number of Hall of Monument points. I use it on my dagger/dagger Charr Ele.
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I think dominator skin is awesome, finally a staff that looks like it could be a melee weapon too. goodbye reclaimed skin
Looks like it could be a typical impractical fantasy melee weapon…
Reminded me of Big Bang Theory Tbh
Centurion’s Claw ^^
My brain just had an orgasm, thankyou.
Edit: (Is there a staff version?)
No, no staff. It’s also a Guild Wars 2 Heritage skin so only available to those with a certain number of Hall of Monument points. I use it on my dagger/dagger Charr Ele.
“Yet”
Give it time and we will have it in staff form lol. Actually this thread may just give them that idea.
Since when did this business of being a hero become being a business?
I think dominator skin is awesome, finally a staff that looks like it could be a melee weapon too. goodbye reclaimed skin
Looks like it could be a typical impractical fantasy melee weapon…
Reminded me of Big Bang Theory Tbh
Centurion’s Claw ^^
My brain just had an orgasm, thankyou.
Edit: (Is there a staff version?)
No, no staff. It’s also a Guild Wars 2 Heritage skin so only available to those with a certain number of Hall of Monument points. I use it on my dagger/dagger Charr Ele.
“Yet”
Give it time and we will have it in staff form lol. Actually this thread may just give them that idea.
Since pretty much all new weapon skins are Black Lion/gem store you can suggest it here: Suggestions-Gemstore items
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
Normally I’m not one to complain about black lion skins or anything outside of WvW, really, but I’ve got something that’s been kind of bothering me.
My friend recently bought himself the Dominator’s Staff. It’s really a great skin and the colors are quite nice for certain character designs, such as one of my characters. However, and here’s the major concern for the weapon designs I’m seeing more and more: it seems like a lot of these skins are just recolors of other skins, not new skins altogether. That’s a huge let down.
Look at the Dominator’s Focus or Longbow. Tell me you haven’t seen those skins before in this game (in different colors). The focus looks a lot like a number of other foci, but I’m mostly thinking of the longbow looking an awful lot like the ascended longbow.
Maybe I’m just overly tired while looking at these things, because realistically how many times can you reinvent the longbow (and like I said, some of them look really cool) but some of these skins are disappointingly similar to the skins we’ve already got aside from color. How many foci do I need that are little triangular dagger-like things in my left hand?
As much as I would like to agree, dominator weapons have no similarity to any ascended weapons, or any for that matter. If you compare them side by side, there is nothing similar, at all. As for focus weapons, yeah a lot of focus skins have similar concepts, but your point really fails to prove any point with your statements. A focus is usually a representation of the magic or theme of magic you are casting. In some cases you could say it might represent your character based on how you wish him to be— which is why there are plenty of skins to choose from. I like double spike looking foci because it represents power in my opinion.
Sure some skins are revamped in form of the weapon they wish to represent, but the points you make have no correlation to the facts you state. Yes longbows should look like longbows, and daggers should look and feel like daggers— that would be the intended concept behind them. Honestly the dominator weapons are a breath of fresh air in terms of weapon skins because some sets like plasma(jedi would be disappointed), soaring, merciless etc felt underwhelming and screamed of low-res lazy texturing, but were not re-skins to say the least.
This set is definitely more unique than most, but I feel as if your argument is more misguided than it is clear. If one thing is true, you are always seeing more and more skins.
If you read the post… I said that the longbow was the reskin of the ascended longbow (essentially).
I don’t mind a few recolors or reskins, but not from weapon skins which require black lion tickets. Sure, I don’t have to buy them, but it’s a disservice to the customer (and I think to the artists themselves) that they’re allowed to do this. I’m just in a way challenging the artists who design these weapons to be a little mindful of the throwaways they put into each set. Gets a bit tedious.
If you read the post… I said that the longbow was the reskin of the ascended longbow (essentially).
I don’t mind a few recolors or reskins, but not from weapon skins which require black lion tickets. Sure, I don’t have to buy them, but it’s a disservice to the customer (and I think to the artists themselves) that they’re allowed to do this. I’m just in a way challenging the artists who design these weapons to be a little mindful of the throwaways they put into each set. Gets a bit tedious.
You don’t know what “reskin” means if you think the Dominator Bow is a reskin of the Ascended Bow.
Reskin means they either literally took a model and put new image maps on top of it and presented it as a new creation or heavily recycled the model with only a few tweaks to the overall shape. The first can be seen when Anet did this with most of the Eye of the North armors in GW1. The later is most obvious in the Chaos Sword which is nearly the same model as the Krytan Sword. The hand guard is different but the blade and grip line up nearly perfectly.
The Dominator bow is neither a reskin nor a recycled asset. It’s simply a bow that shares both the same “bow shape” all long bows do and has the silly little shield thing that Anet occasionally likes to put on their bows to make them more complicated looking.
Both the Auric Longbow and the Hero’s Longbow from WvW leagues also have the little shield thing.
The Dominator bow may share a similar overall silhouette, but it matches the theme of the set perfectly and is really nothing more than a coincidence.
Normally I’m not one to complain about black lion skins or anything outside of WvW, really, but I’ve got something that’s been kind of bothering me.
My friend recently bought himself the Dominator’s Staff. It’s really a great skin and the colors are quite nice for certain character designs, such as one of my characters. However, and here’s the major concern for the weapon designs I’m seeing more and more: it seems like a lot of these skins are just recolors of other skins, not new skins altogether. That’s a huge let down.
Look at the Dominator’s Focus or Longbow. Tell me you haven’t seen those skins before in this game (in different colors). The focus looks a lot like a number of other foci, but I’m mostly thinking of the longbow looking an awful lot like the ascended longbow.
Maybe I’m just overly tired while looking at these things, because realistically how many times can you reinvent the longbow (and like I said, some of them look really cool) but some of these skins are disappointingly similar to the skins we’ve already got aside from color. How many foci do I need that are little triangular dagger-like things in my left hand?
As much as I would like to agree, dominator weapons have no similarity to any ascended weapons, or any for that matter. If you compare them side by side, there is nothing similar, at all. As for focus weapons, yeah a lot of focus skins have similar concepts, but your point really fails to prove any point with your statements. A focus is usually a representation of the magic or theme of magic you are casting. In some cases you could say it might represent your character based on how you wish him to be— which is why there are plenty of skins to choose from. I like double spike looking foci because it represents power in my opinion.
Sure some skins are revamped in form of the weapon they wish to represent, but the points you make have no correlation to the facts you state. Yes longbows should look like longbows, and daggers should look and feel like daggers— that would be the intended concept behind them. Honestly the dominator weapons are a breath of fresh air in terms of weapon skins because some sets like plasma(jedi would be disappointed), soaring, merciless etc felt underwhelming and screamed of low-res lazy texturing, but were not re-skins to say the least.
This set is definitely more unique than most, but I feel as if your argument is more misguided than it is clear. If one thing is true, you are always seeing more and more skins.
If you read the post… I said that the longbow was the reskin of the ascended longbow (essentially).
I don’t mind a few recolors or reskins, but not from weapon skins which require black lion tickets. Sure, I don’t have to buy them, but it’s a disservice to the customer (and I think to the artists themselves) that they’re allowed to do this. I’m just in a way challenging the artists who design these weapons to be a little mindful of the throwaways they put into each set. Gets a bit tedious.
Picture of Ascended longbow and Dominator longbow. Truthfully, besides them being longbows I’m not seeing the resemblance.
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The antique weapons are reskins of each other: the only difference is color (and sometimes a few particle effects).
The dominator staff skin is not like any other staff skin, therefore it’s not a reskin in any sort of strict sense. Perhaps the OP simply is saying that they don’t want any weapon skin to look like any other weapon skin in the game and are using the word “reskin” to oversimplify that idea.
I actually like the idea that we’ll have more such skins. Weapons in this game are tools to focus magical energy; there’s no particular reason that a “dagger” has to look like a dagger, so I think it would be great if ANet is looking at ways to adapt existing designs for one type of weapon into new designs for another type. I’d love to see a few more melee-oriented staffs and a distinction between ranged GS (mesmer) and melee ones (everyone else). I think it would be great to get a mace that looked like a crystal ball.
The dominator set is by far my favorite released in the last two years; I’d like to see more following the same design principles.
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I found the Dominator set to be actually quite original, well designed and optically pleasing, offering a colour mix that I was missing so far.
And all of that without being disgusting, too “funny” or overdone (like for my taste Chak, Lovestruck, Dragons deep or Crimson Lion)
All in all I would not mind reskinning at all, there seem to be a lack of weapons in certain colours (like propper red or green) – many glows in pinkish/bluish tones though.
The bit right around the hand is what I see as a reskin of the ascended.
Also, to clarify a few things:
1) some of you seem to fail to read entire sentences, or at least understand what is meant. When something is essentially a reskin, it doesn’t mean that it’s a pixel for pixel reskin. It means that there are a few elements which are essentially reskins (key word being essentially).
2) Sure, maybe you all think the dominator’s skins are the bee’s knees, but maybe you don’t. Can we at least agree that there are some weapon skins being offered which are entirely lackluster? GW2 has the capacity for some really amazing looking weapons. And then there are some weapons which are entirely bland, boring or just not good.
The bit right around the hand is what I see as a reskin of the ascended.
The bit around the hand????
Ok. They maybe reused and reworked the bit around the hand. That doesn’t mean the 2 are similar aside from that and them both being longbows. There are big differences aside from the “bit right around the hand,” which truthfully aren’t that similar except for being “shield like” sections of the longbow. It’s a concept that’s being reused. It’s not a reskin of that area.
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