Guild Wars 2

Maybe your mail was full. You cant get new mail if it is.

Quick Mouse.7635:

If you reported the scammer, you should be getting your stuff back shortly and the scammer will be banned. At least that’s what I’ve heard happens in most cases. A few things to remember tho:
1) secure person to person trading will never be implemented into the game. This is to avoid having map chats completely filled with trade chat.
2) make sure your mail is empty when you trade person to person. I have almost been accused of scamming before until the person realized their mailbox was full xD

The “scammer” might get banned but the guy that got owned will definitely not get his money back.

Sorry to break this to you, but you’re going to lose a lot more money in the future by feeding the TP.

They probably won’t punish the scammers. Anet needs them to scam people like you because they don’t want people circumventing the listing fee on the auction house.

Two simple advice for you.

1. Never trust people over the internet.
2. If the price seems too good to be true its most likely a scam.

By the way, how many silver below TP per piece was his price?

Well that’s given. You trusted a stranger. But my experience was much worse.

I was in a PvE guild and it was the elections. I posted in guild chat about betting the elections. i bet on obama. he bet on romney. obama won and he would not even pay for it. it was only 1 gold (1 gold because i intend to pay up when i lose. and imagine if it was 30g or something). but he wont kittening pay up. and this guy had multiple legendaries and kitten. and worse, someone bailed him out. because of this, i didn’t become active in the guild and just leeched the buff and later on left.

So kitten people.

What I learned in this thread: Apparently scamming is fine if people are “Foolish enough” to trust him.

Lol. This forum. Be right back, going to go steal from someone. It’s fine though, since I won’t get caught. Totally not a flawed mentality at all.

Guess most of the people that say “You got what you deserved” were totally born with street smarts, and had to learn the hard way that only the strongest survive, or some other bullkitten.

Hopefully their account doesn’t get hacked, because then they’d make a topic and cry about it, and I can laugh and high-five the hacker who was able to find out their simple password. Because obviously it’s their fault for having a crackable password, and the hacker is doing nothing wrong.

Sokina.8041:

What I learned in this thread: Apparently scamming is fine if people are “Foolish enough” to trust him.

Lol. This forum. Be right back, going to go steal from someone. It’s fine though, since I won’t get caught. Totally not a flawed mentality at all.

Guess most of the people that say “You got what you deserved” were totally born with street smarts, and had to learn the hard way that only the strongest survive, or some other bullkitten.

Hopefully their account doesn’t get hacked, because then they’d make a topic and cry about it, and I can laugh and high-five the hacker who was able to find out their simple password. Because obviously it’s their fault for having a crackable password, and the hacker is doing nothing wrong.

This is amusing.

As one of the “people that say ‘you got what you deserved’”, I would say yes: I think it’s fairly obvious that only the strongest survive. It’s not “street smarts”, by the way; it’s common sense in this day and age. This is the Internet. Why would you place trust in someone you don’t know? There is zero reason for anyone on the Internet to be “trustworthy”. None. There is no real consequence. So, the guy maybe gets a temp ban? He might lose the gold? Guess what: he got rich off the other 15 people who lack common sense (and thus also decided it was a good idea to try and circumvent the system) who didn’t report him.

Oh, that’s right, I forgot: common sense isn’t common anymore. My bad.

Most of us who said “you got what you deserved” didn’t say it was okay that the guy did it; we’re assigning blame, and rightfully, to the OP. He tried to circumvent a system, it backfired, and thus, he got what he deserved. At no point did I say the scammer should get away with it… he’s an assclown too.

And anyone who gets their account hacked clearly also lacks a certain degree of common sense. ANet allows for a 100 character password. Anyone with half a brain should be able to devise a secure PW. Then, you follow other “security measures”, like not giving out your account info, not buying gold through unauthorized sellers, etc.

Am I going slow enough for you, or do I need to break it down further?

I am looking forward to possibly some kind of player to player transaction like in GW1 or a COD system for mail. would make trading with strangers much easier.

Sokina.8041:

What I learned in this thread: Apparently scamming is fine if people are “Foolish enough” to trust him.

Lol. This forum. Be right back, going to go steal from someone. It’s fine though, since I won’t get caught. Totally not a flawed mentality at all.

Guess most of the people that say “You got what you deserved” were totally born with street smarts, and had to learn the hard way that only the strongest survive, or some other bullkitten.

Hopefully their account doesn’t get hacked, because then they’d make a topic and cry about it, and I can laugh and high-five the hacker who was able to find out their simple password. Because obviously it’s their fault for having a crackable password, and the hacker is doing nothing wrong.

Here’s what you are missing though. We need to learn from our mistakes so we don’t repeat them. But how would OP learn from his mistake if everybody is telling him he didn’t make one? When you constantly push the blame to smb else, you are doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over again because you don’t recognise them as such.

You have to think twice about the person… If somebody is doing a dungeon with me and have dropped an item i want(charged lodestone in my case)
I’ll ask to buy it from him and give money first… depending on what he says/doesn’t say and what he does.
Won’t get scammed in 99% cases unless that guy is professional con artist, lol xD
But I’d like a trading similar that exists in some other mmorpgs, that denies the possibility of scam(being able to preview traded items, and locking them in a deal before confirming it).
That wouldn’t hurt trading post one bit because of server’s/people relative isolation.

In online games, assume everyone is a cheat and is out to get your account/items. You can be friendly with them but never lend them anything worth more than 1g at most.

Latorn.4209:

Geezus, this is why trading should have been implemented at launch, why the hell isn’t it in the game yet? >.<

I’m sure you’re not the only one that’s been scammed too :/ Does Anet really want to waste their time dealing with scammers? I mean, implementing a trading feature would make scams like this non-existent.

No using the TP and not trying to avoid the gold sink tax, which is needed in this game, is the answer. There will never be a trade channel in this game and I for one am glad for it! Keep GW2 spam free!!!!!

I kind of have sympathy for the OP because it seems like he made an honest (but expensive) mistake! In general though (in my opinion) if you’re willing to trade via mail to circumvent a system you’re likely to exploit, buy gold, or run a bot. Not saying the OP would but if you’re willing to circumvent one part of the game why not all? Especially if you can get the decision reversed because it was an “honest mistake”.

Another little idea for safer trading between players.

If someone is willing to sell you say… 250 ectos or any other crafting mat. Tell them to mail it to you in stacks of 5/10/25. That way you wont lose much if the other party tries to actually scam you. If they refuse chances are its a scam.

teviko.6049:

But then, people wouldn’t use the TP.

That OTHER mmo has a TP and trade window. Players there still use the AH *cough* I mean TP... They also have a listing fee. Also, your listings get sent back to you if they don’t sell for a couple of days.

teviko.6049:

Frontier.2536:

All this could be avoided by simply implementing normal trade window between players (like in ANY MMORPG out there – it obviously isn’t rocket science) – but noooo we have to implement silly toys and holiday events first !

But then, people wouldn’t use the TP. If you use te TP, you get taxed, which is a money sink, which means money goes ‘POOF’ which means people will want to make even MORE money, which means they will cave and buy gems from the gem shop and convert to gold.

Without taxes, there is no incentive to buy gems from cash shop. Simply, A.Net loses their revenue. So, there will be no trading between players

Look, Trading Post = convenience. You just bring up the window, make few mouse clicks and you are all set. And thats in my opinion what you are taxed for.
And if you want to sell item directly to a player you need o spend some time advertising in LA. Time, that could be used to farm gold for example

The bad guy in this story is whoever leads NCsoft. Greediness = Applying taxes everywhere in the game (TP, waypoints) to sell more gold = Everyone is unhappy but him and this scam happens.

I hope something horrible will happen to HIM.

Not that the scammer is a good guy neither…

people circumvent a system out of desperation and get scammed usually results in:

“OMG common sense! you got what you deserved!!!! back to the TP slave you will meet our demands!! now buy those lodestones I just flipped”

Seriously, get to the core issues and stop flapping about in the wind people.