Guild Wars 2

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

Well don’t you think that is very selfish? People who want duels are people who want to be able to have friendly duels with friends/guildies/randoms just for fun and would be extremely happy if it was put into the game. How is it fair for people to not want to because of the tiny minority of toxic duelers? Its the same argument of not having dungeons, there are toxic people in dungeons so we should remove dungeons? No because you like dungeons. Well its not fair i like Pvp i like duels just like a lot of others, stop pushing it away because of your selfish wants.

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Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

I like the Guild Wars 2 solution, thanks. lol

Vayne.8563:

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Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

I like the Guild Wars 2 solution, thanks. lol

haha, well you are in good company Anet has been maintaining a similar strategy.

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Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Duels already exist. You just can’t show them to people trying to PVE. If they want to see, they can easily spectate you.

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Again, dueler. very easy for me to get barbarian in the mists. Not so much in PVE. I like it that way.

Brother Grimm.5176:

Serbianwolf.1652:

I was just wondering why is this feature still not implemented after 2 years? Cmon people, its essential thing!

1. It was never intended to BE a feature, so it’s not GOING to be implemented….EVER.
2. It is NOT “essential thing” as the game is in no way suffering because it’s not there (the definition of “essential”).
3. see PvP or WvW for a currently existing solution to “dueling”.
4. …even tho 1v1 dueling is not currently nor ever will something the game is balanced for….and thus is pointless.

1. Wardrobe was never intended to be a feature but it was implemented.

2. Wardrobe was not essential but it was implemented.

3. PvP and WvW are not Duels, Duels are people being able to have a friendly fight around places in the open world.

4. WvW/PvP isnt balanced thus is pointless? No but that is your logic.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

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Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

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Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Duels already exist. You just can’t show them to people trying to PVE. If they want to see, they can easily spectate you.

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

custom sPvP sucks! It’s a great solution for someone who has no interest in dueling, but if you actually try it, it is a poor substitute.

I want to duel with my WvW build (food included), against my guildies and friends on my server. Not in OS and not in custom sPvP.

Vayne.8563:

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Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

I like the Guild Wars 2 solution, thanks. lol

Isnt it toxic to ignore other peoples wants and only care about your own? I find it if the PvE and PvP community weren’t so one sided people would be less toxic.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

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Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Fractals are instances. PVErs can ignore them if they so choose.

“custom sPvP sucks! It’s a great solution for someone who has no interest in dueling, but if you actually try it, it is a poor substitute.

I want to duel with my WvW build (food included), against my guildies and friends on my server. Not in OS and not in custom sPvP."

I try and play it constantly when I want a duel, and I enjoy it because it allows you to focus on skill and build. Food just enhances that for wvw.

I don’t think food was meant to be a contributing factor for 1v1 duels.

I’d like to remind you guys that you are proposing forcing a game aspect on people when there are dedicated avenues for you to do what you want, for the sole purpose of being able to use your PVE build, since every other aspect is covered by Spvp and custom arenas.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

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Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Fractals are instances.

Okay then, world bosses? Teq, the worm? people can be toxic because of wipes. It’s open world.

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

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Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

I like the Guild Wars 2 solution, thanks. lol

Isnt it toxic to ignore other peoples wants and only care about your own? I find it if the PvE and PvP community weren’t so one sided people would be less toxic.

ok, so there ‘needs; to be a new “mists”, where there’s a few arenas, (similar to pavillion.)
Where players can queue and dual , you can only fight when you enter an arena, allow for choice, of one v one, 2v2 etec.

Keep it out of pve, but allow a lv1(upleveled) to fight a lv80, if he so chooses with all or without the food buffs he wants.

would something like this satisfy?

It would still be out of pve which is what bothers people who against dueling, so it will work for them,.
Would a new area like this, satisfy?

if yes, the next question is,
is there enough players who would participate that would make implementing this, worth anets time?

I’m not sure it would be, it may also lead to players calling for 1vs1 balance, which was never meant to be in game…

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Brother Grimm.5176:

Serbianwolf.1652:

I was just wondering why is this feature still not implemented after 2 years? Cmon people, its essential thing!

1. It was never intended to BE a feature, so it’s not GOING to be implemented….EVER.
2. It is NOT “essential thing” as the game is in no way suffering because it’s not there (the definition of “essential”).
3. see PvP or WvW for a currently existing solution to “dueling”.
4. …even tho 1v1 dueling is not currently nor ever will something the game is balanced for….and thus is pointless.

1. Wardrobe was never intended to be a feature but it was implemented.

2. Wardrobe was not essential but it was implemented.

3. PvP and WvW are not Duels, Duels are people being able to have a friendly fight around places in the open world.

4. WvW/PvP isnt balanced thus is pointless? No but that is your logic.

There will NEVER be PvP in the open world as A.Net has said this game was NOT DESIGNED FOR IT. So, they put in a separate area for PvP. This is where you need to go. Don’t like it don’t play.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Fractals, as you might have noticed, it an instance. IE if I never enter Fractals, I don’t have to deal with Fractal runners. They don’t play the content I enjoy most anyway.

However, when I do Fractals, and I do, I run them with my casual, friendly, happy guild. Thanks for asking.

Dusty Moon.4382:

pigdog.9215:

Brother Grimm.5176:

Serbianwolf.1652:

I was just wondering why is this feature still not implemented after 2 years? Cmon people, its essential thing!

1. It was never intended to BE a feature, so it’s not GOING to be implemented….EVER.
2. It is NOT “essential thing” as the game is in no way suffering because it’s not there (the definition of “essential”).
3. see PvP or WvW for a currently existing solution to “dueling”.
4. …even tho 1v1 dueling is not currently nor ever will something the game is balanced for….and thus is pointless.

1. Wardrobe was never intended to be a feature but it was implemented.

2. Wardrobe was not essential but it was implemented.

3. PvP and WvW are not Duels, Duels are people being able to have a friendly fight around places in the open world.

4. WvW/PvP isnt balanced thus is pointless? No but that is your logic.

There will NEVER be PvP in the open world as A.Net has said this game was NOT DESIGNED FOR IT. So, they put in a separate area for PvP. This is where you need to go. Don’t like it don’t play.

Arenanet have said if the community really wants dueling that they’d think about it, so suggestions on forums are praised, so GET OVER IT. You don’t like suggestions? then quit the forums.

Not many people are really against dueling. They are against toxicity, player harassment, and generally being bothered. This is completely reasonable, and i would totally include myself in this camp.

An open world duel happens when someone sends you a request to duel, and you either accept or decline. That is where the open world duel starts and ends.

Anything that happens beyond this has officially left the purview of open world duels and is classified as “harassment.”

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

Finally someone who can think openly and efficently. This forum needs more people like him.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Fractals are instances.

Okay then, world bosses? Teq, the worm? people can be toxic because of wipes. It’s open world.

As I said, the more competitive the event, the more toxic people become. You’re right> Those events are toxic…and often avoided by people like me. But they’re localized. I don’t have to go and stand with those people or be a part of them unless I choose. It’s not like I can be standing in Wayfarer Foothills and someone can drag Tequatl to me and yell at me for not stacking, or pulling adds to the guns. lol

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Fractals are instances.

Okay then, world bosses? Teq, the worm? people can be toxic because of wipes. It’s open world.

As I said, the more competitive the event, the more toxic people become. You’re right> Those events are toxic…and often avoided by people like me. But they’re localized. I don’t have to go and stand with those people or be a part of them unless I choose. It’s not like I can be standing in Wayfarer Foothills and someone can drag Tequatl to me and yell at me for not stacking, or pulling adds to the guns. lol

Exactly, which is why Dueling should be perfectly fine, friendly duels between two people will most likely not go into map chat n stay local. Most of the time its fun so it shouldn’t even be toxic like the world boss events.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Fractals are instances.

Okay then, world bosses? Teq, the worm? people can be toxic because of wipes. It’s open world.

Difficult world bosses exist in high level areas only, and the players organize onto a single map to even attempt said bosses. In that case, it is about as instanced as a dungeon.

As vayne stated, as well, apparently.

Scrambles.2604:

Not many people are really against dueling. They are against toxicity, player harassment, and generally being bothered. This is completely reasonable, and i would totally include myself in this camp.

An open world duel happens when someone sends you a request to duel, and you either accept or decline. That is where the open world duel starts and ends.

Anything that happens beyond this has officially left the purview of open world duels and is classified as “harassment.”

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

This is my stance. I am not against people sparring in the mountains. Personally I would be entertained.

My concern is for the players that, at this moment, have complete control over how competitive they would like to be. Adding duels to the open world would open avenues for this kind of harassment. Not everyone is happy and smiles when it comes to dueling(or even respectful), the PVP community is a shining example of this.

I’d prefer to keep that in an instance. If I have an itch to spar, I can certainly scratch it.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Fractals are instances.

Okay then, world bosses? Teq, the worm? people can be toxic because of wipes. It’s open world.

Difficult world bosses exist in high level areas only, and the players organize onto a single map to even attempt said bosses. In that case, it is about as instanced as a dungeon.

As vayne stated, as well, apparently.

Untrue, there are world bosses all over the place. But world bosses arent instanced, they are in the open world. Which dueling should be in too, people who duel a lot could be placed in worlds with frequent duelers if its such a hassle, but no world bosses are all over the place and no way instanced.

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Though perhaps a copy of a pve map, turned into pvp Would be nice.
For example a new mist section. (give it a max of idk 70players map fill…then new map opens up….but all players are “enemies”)
They could even randomise the pve map per week, and in the WvW section, where youchoose borderland/eotm etc, have a “PVE mists” …and that will be a random pve map, where people who enter can pvp.

Whether this mode will allow for ganking or just people who accept duels, would be up to anet, but I this might just solve the pvp openworld issue? It’s an “openworld” map, without being in pve.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Fractals are instances.

Okay then, world bosses? Teq, the worm? people can be toxic because of wipes. It’s open world.

Difficult world bosses exist in high level areas only, and the players organize onto a single map to even attempt said bosses. In that case, it is about as instanced as a dungeon.

As vayne stated, as well, apparently.

Untrue, there are world bosses all over the place. But world bosses arent instanced, they are in the open world. Which dueling should be in too, people who duel a lot could be placed in worlds with frequent duelers if its such a hassle, but no world bosses are all over the place and no way instanced.

Open world bosses are restricted giving people the OPTION to avoid them. I can’t avoid people dueling everywhere.

You assume it’ll be nice and friendly and maybe for you it will be. But you know, I prefer not to see it or have to deal with it. Put it in a place where I don’t have to. Not anywhere. Make a specified area, even a specified zone.

You see, I’m willing to compromise, but the duelers want the whole world. All of it. It shouldn’t be that way.

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

and this post, is exactly why people don’t want pvp.

Taygus.4571:

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

and this post, is exactly why people don’t want pvp.

By people you mean soft hearted folks? Pvpers want Pvp and duels and PK servers but we only asking for duels

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

If you have not noticed, GW2 places heavy emphasis on their PVP content. There are more avenues for PVP than there are for PVE.

In fact, PvE only has ONE avenue, that is modular enough to allow people to not play content they do not wish to.

Again, I am far from soft hearted. I spend most of my time in the mists. I /laugh at thieves. But I can understand Taygus’ viewpoint.

It doesn’t sit right with me to encroach upon the PVE world when there are several options available to you for dueling, propose to pepper the world with duels and the probable toxicity PVP can bring, and then ask them why they’re crying about it.

@ regarding world bosses, they scale with intensity. the -difficult- bosses require dungeonlike preparation, and those are the ones that garner toxic players.

Shadow Behemoth and the other lower level bosses don’t cause wipes, and even those bosses can be avoided.

Please no. It attracts immature behaviour on a zerg scale.

“Who wouldn’t like to compete with their friends in PvE? Its almost like WvW, but in PvE maps”

I for one would not like this. I don’t like PvP or WvW and I really don’t like the whole dueling thing. Last thing I want is someone to spam a duel request while I’m fighting a mob or trying to get a vista “just cuz they can.”

Happened way too much in Rift and I’m very glad it’s not an option here. So..no..just no.

Post script: By the by, it’s not essential.

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

and this post, is exactly why people don’t want pvp.

By people you mean soft hearted folks? Pvpers want Pvp and duels and PK servers but we only asking for duels

you just proved my point(twice) and others, about the harassment pvp brings to pve.

Alot of players chose this game to not have to deal with pvp harassment, ..you don’t like it? go play a game that allows you to look down on the “carebears”.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

If you have not noticed, GW2 places heavy emphasis on their PVP content. There are more avenues for PVP than there are for PVE.

In fact, PvE only has ONE avenue, that is modular enough to allow people to not play content they do not wish to.

Again, I am far from soft hearted. I spend most of my time in the mists. I /laugh at thieves. But I can understand Taygus’ viewpoint.

It doesn’t sit right with me to encroach upon the PVE world when there are several options available to you for dueling, propose to pepper the instances with duels and the probable toxicity PVP can bring, and then ask them why they’re crying about it.

Well how i and others see it is that they enjoy playing games that are immersive, i think being able to duel someone in a game based around fighting things is perfectly reasonable and to not what it makes no sense. You go around killing things but are afraid of one person having a friendly battle with another? I treat mmorpgs not as a PvE or PvP one but as an online fantasy world that immerses me into the game. If someone insults me for being a noob and runs off it makes no sense being unable to challenge them to a duel? If im traveling with a friend and we want to test our skills in the wild because its imersive i see no problem in that. I dont understand how people can think duels ruin PvE it adds to immersion. No matter what there is, or where you go, people are toxic. Remove World bosses if you are scared of toxic people.

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Nope Anet shouldn’t add things just because people ask for it. They should only add if it if it fits their vision for the game. My guess is that it doesn’t.

Then i guess their vision of the game doesnt include a large PVP scene l0l. There is no way people will take the PvP as seriously as WoWs if you cant even duel people.

are you frikin serious?
GW2 is 2/3 PvP, only 1/3 is PvE and even that is divided between open world, dungeons and fractures.
really, be glad there is as much PvP as GW2 offers, any other game simply doesn’t offer as much PvP even with duels.

oh and one more thing, the reason why so many games have a low PvE population is because of duels, GW1/2 has one of the biggest PvE crowd because PvP and PvE are separated, in WvWvW combines them but you still need to get there specifically.
i would have walked away from GW1 if duels were introduced and i am certainly not the only one, i am really happy GW2 keeps this up.

if you are so concerned that it will not be as popular as WoW, play WoW but leave GW2 alone in that regard.
in fact, because there are no duels in PvE GW2 is one of the most friendliest PvE environment, sure there are some rotten apples but every single game has that.

Taygus.4571:

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

and this post, is exactly why people don’t want pvp.

By people you mean soft hearted folks? Pvpers want Pvp and duels and PK servers but we only asking for duels

you just proved my point(twice) and others, about the harassment pvp brings to pve.

Alot of players chose this game to not have to deal with pvp harassment, ..you don’t like it? go play a game that allows you to look down on the “carebears”.

A lot of people chose things because because of the combat, visuals, WvW, story based questing, leveling system. When i had topics about the game it these points were brought up. I don’t remember someone ever saying “i love guild wars because i dont have to deal with toxic people” lol?

Unfortunately, based on experience in other games, all we’d get from open world dueling can be summed up with:

Brother Grimm.5176:

Serbianwolf.1652:

I was just wondering why is this feature still not implemented after 2 years? Cmon people, its essential thing!

1. It was never intended to BE a feature, so it’s not GOING to be implemented….EVER.
2. It is NOT “essential thing” as the game is in no way suffering because it’s not there (the definition of “essential”).
3. see PvP or WvW for a currently existing solution to “dueling”.
4. …even tho 1v1 dueling is not currently nor ever will something the game is balanced for….and thus is pointless.

It WAS intended to BE a feature.Colin said so himself on interview.

sorudo.9054:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Nope Anet shouldn’t add things just because people ask for it. They should only add if it if it fits their vision for the game. My guess is that it doesn’t.

Then i guess their vision of the game doesnt include a large PVP scene l0l. There is no way people will take the PvP as seriously as WoWs if you cant even duel people.

are you frikin serious?
GW2 is 2/3 PvP, only 1/3 is PvE and even that is divided between open world, dungeons and fractures.
really, be glad there is as much PvP as GW2 offers, any other game simply doesn’t offer as much PvP even with duels.

oh and one more thing, the reason why so many games have a low PvE population is because of duels, GW1/2 has one of the biggest PvE crowd because PvP and PvE are separated, in WvWvW combines them but you still need to get there specifically.
i would have walked away from GW1 if duels were introduced and i am certainly not the only one, i am really happy GW2 keeps this up.

if you are so concerned that it will not be as popular as WoW, play WoW but leave GW2 alone in that regard.
in fact, because there are no duels in PvE GW2 is one of the most friendliest PvE environment, sure there are some rotten apples but every single game has that.

That is so close minded, Mist WvW is a karma farm, WvW points system is flawed if you actually WvWd youd see all the complaints. PvP is the only thing that is given attention, a lot of games have Pk servers, Dueling, arenas, pvp so you must be living under a rock to think gw2 has a lot in regards to PvP. Also i quit WoW because it’s old, gw2 doesnt cater to PvPers wants as much as other games, i can complain about it as much as you PvErs complain about no endgame. Don’t be so close minded when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

LOL btw gw2 is one of the friendliest games not because of Dueling, do some research please. The major toxic issues in MMORPGS are the hardcore PvEing compared to PvP. Guild wars 2 does not allow third party mods like DPS meters, you cannot tag mobs, everyone gets a reward for participating, therefore no ninja looting. Please go experience MMORPGS before joining in a discussion where you bring them up.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

If you have not noticed, GW2 places heavy emphasis on their PVP content. There are more avenues for PVP than there are for PVE.

In fact, PvE only has ONE avenue, that is modular enough to allow people to not play content they do not wish to.

Again, I am far from soft hearted. I spend most of my time in the mists. I /laugh at thieves. But I can understand Taygus’ viewpoint.

It doesn’t sit right with me to encroach upon the PVE world when there are several options available to you for dueling, propose to pepper the instances with duels and the probable toxicity PVP can bring, and then ask them why they’re crying about it.

Well how i and others see it is that they enjoy playing games that are immersive, i think being able to duel someone in a game based around fighting things is perfectly reasonable and to not what it makes no sense. You go around killing things but are afraid of one person having a friendly battle with another? I treat mmorpgs not as a PvE or PvP one but as an online fantasy world that immerses me into the game. If someone insults me for being a noob and runs off it makes no sense being unable to challenge them to a duel? If im traveling with a friend and we want to test our skills in the wild because its imersive i see no problem in that. I dont understand how people can think duels ruin PvE it adds to immersion. No matter what there is, or where you go, people are toxic. Remove World bosses if you are scared of toxic people.

you seem to be missing [read: ignoring] the point.

You may not see a problem, but the people who will be affected by your proposition do, and you should pay attention to what they’re saying.

There is certainly the option for you to duel, it just exists in a separate avenue.

You not wanting to use that avenue is a separate problem entirely, but the fact of the matter is the players on the PVE side don’t want to see this happen because of the avenues to harassment it opens on a game with a currently -very- peaceful PVE.

World bosses have been covered already. the ones that cause wipes require pre-planning, and the pre-planning happens in a separate instance.

Just like fractals.
Just like dungeons.
And just like duels.

After seeing so many dueling threads, I still don’t understand WHY people want open world dueling. It’s always the same arguments: “Its fun”, “I can test my PvE build”, “PvP custom arenas aren’t convient for dueling”, “Its training for PvP”. My guess is that many of these who want open world dueling are coming from other games that have it, and while they enjoyed it, feel that GW2 should include it so they don’t have to go back to “X” game that had it.

I think one of the great things about GW2 is that it’s not trying to be like other MMOs. Thats a major reason why we don’t have things like mounts, open world dueling, player to player trading, etc. Many MMOs have been there done that. To the point where such things are expected to be in any new MMO, or added to any MMO that doesn’t have them. Trying to take away from what makes GW2 such a great game and turn it into your average run of the mill MMO, IMO, will kill the game faster than anything Anet can do.

I understand that such things are enjoyed by many, but put simply, this game didn’t add them at launch, even though they could be considered an “industry standard”, for a reason. Could they add them at any time? sure. But such things are not where Anet is taking the game. They decided to focus on the LS, which is an awesome and great device they are doing. I do not know of any other MMO that has anything remotely like it. It keeps players playing, and draws in new players. Adding in dueling/mounts/player trading/whatever will be taking a step backward. It would be seen as selling out and lose much of what makes GW2 awesome and amazing.

pdavis.8031:

After seeing so many dueling threads, I still don’t understand WHY people want open world dueling. It’s always the same arguments: “Its fun”, “I can test my PvE build”, “PvP custom arenas aren’t convient for dueling”, “Its training for PvP”. My guess is that many of these who want open world dueling are coming from other games that have it, and while they enjoyed it, feel that GW2 should include it so they don’t have to go back to “X” game that had it.

I think one of the great things about GW2 is that it’s not trying to be like other MMOs. Thats a major reason why we don’t have things like mounts, open world dueling, player to player trading, etc. Many MMOs have been there done that. To the point where such things are expected to be in any new MMO, or added to any MMO that doesn’t have them. Trying to take away from what makes GW2 such a great game and turn it into your average run of the mill MMO, IMO, will kill the game faster than anything Anet can do.

I understand that such things are enjoyed by many, but put simply, this game didn’t add them at launch, even though they could be considered an “industry standard”, for a reason. Could they add them at any time? sure. But such things are not where Anet is taking the game. They decided to focus on the LS, which is an awesome and great device they are doing. I do not know of any other MMO that has anything remotely like it. It keeps players playing, and draws in new players. Adding in dueling/mounts/player trading/whatever will be taking a step backward. It would be seen as selling out and lose much of what makes GW2 awesome and amazing.

Firstly guild wars 2 is just like any other mmorpg, it has weapons, armor, loot, bosses, dungeons, pvp, world bosses etc. You’re just cherry picking which completely removes the argument of Gw2 not copying other MMORPGS. If Gw2 was this “perfect” game that you’re making it out to be in this post the forums wouldn’t have such complaints in the general forum section. A step backwards is having the attitude of ignorance, which is what you are showing by expressing dueling/mounts/playertrading is a step backwards because they are not your taste.

Vayne.8563:

No, I wouldn’t like to compete with my friends in PvE. But thanks for asking. lol

Then ignore the option to duel if they add it. Is it that difficult?

I don’t understand why PvE players are so afraid of dueling being added into the game. What’s the excuse? “I don’t want my precious PvE filled with people fighting!” Is that the best you’ve got? Because you guys are the first ones to COMPLETELY FILL Lions Arch with stupid water balloon fights and costume brawls.

“I don’t want people challenging me!!!” How is this a good excuse? I won’t even touch this one because it’s such a terrible one it hurts.

There’s literally ZERO reason why dueling shouldn’t be added into the game. If you’re afraid of “1 on 1 confrontation” because you’re socially awkward and want to stick to farming, then just ignore dueling if they add it in.

It’s just a game. Get over it.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

If you have not noticed, GW2 places heavy emphasis on their PVP content. There are more avenues for PVP than there are for PVE.

In fact, PvE only has ONE avenue, that is modular enough to allow people to not play content they do not wish to.

Again, I am far from soft hearted. I spend most of my time in the mists. I /laugh at thieves. But I can understand Taygus’ viewpoint.

It doesn’t sit right with me to encroach upon the PVE world when there are several options available to you for dueling, propose to pepper the instances with duels and the probable toxicity PVP can bring, and then ask them why they’re crying about it.

Well how i and others see it is that they enjoy playing games that are immersive, i think being able to duel someone in a game based around fighting things is perfectly reasonable and to not what it makes no sense. You go around killing things but are afraid of one person having a friendly battle with another? I treat mmorpgs not as a PvE or PvP one but as an online fantasy world that immerses me into the game. If someone insults me for being a noob and runs off it makes no sense being unable to challenge them to a duel? If im traveling with a friend and we want to test our skills in the wild because its imersive i see no problem in that. I dont understand how people can think duels ruin PvE it adds to immersion. No matter what there is, or where you go, people are toxic. Remove World bosses if you are scared of toxic people.

you seem to be missing [read: ignoring] the point.

You may not see a problem, but the people who will be affected by your proposition do, and you should pay attention to what they’re saying.

There is certainly the option for you to duel, it just exists in a separate avenue.

You not wanting to use that avenue is a separate problem entirely, but the fact of the matter is the players on the PVE side don’t want to see this happen because of the avenues to harassment it opens on a game with a currently -very- peaceful PVE.

World bosses have been covered already. the ones that cause wipes require pre-planning, and the pre-planning happens in a separate instance.

Just like fractals.
Just like dungeons.
And just like duels.

The only point made is that PvPers want duels in the open world, the opposition’s point is that it would increase the amount of toxicity by people acting superior if another doesnt want to duel. World bosses create more of a toxic behaviour but it will not be removed because PvErs tolerate it. They just mute and report the person, which is what anyone can do for harrasing duelers. There is no logic to say one sides wants is irrelevant because it affects my side in a way i can easily solve ( reporting/ignoring ).

pigdog.9215:

sorudo.9054:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Nope Anet shouldn’t add things just because people ask for it. They should only add if it if it fits their vision for the game. My guess is that it doesn’t.

Then i guess their vision of the game doesnt include a large PVP scene l0l. There is no way people will take the PvP as seriously as WoWs if you cant even duel people.

are you frikin serious?
GW2 is 2/3 PvP, only 1/3 is PvE and even that is divided between open world, dungeons and fractures.
really, be glad there is as much PvP as GW2 offers, any other game simply doesn’t offer as much PvP even with duels.

oh and one more thing, the reason why so many games have a low PvE population is because of duels, GW1/2 has one of the biggest PvE crowd because PvP and PvE are separated, in WvWvW combines them but you still need to get there specifically.
i would have walked away from GW1 if duels were introduced and i am certainly not the only one, i am really happy GW2 keeps this up.

if you are so concerned that it will not be as popular as WoW, play WoW but leave GW2 alone in that regard.
in fact, because there are no duels in PvE GW2 is one of the most friendliest PvE environment, sure there are some rotten apples but every single game has that.

That is so close minded, Mist WvW is a karma farm, WvW points system is flawed if you actually WvWd youd see all the complaints. PvP is the only thing that is given attention, a lot of games have Pk servers, Dueling, arenas, pvp so you must be living under a rock to think gw2 has a lot in regards to PvP. Also i quit WoW because it’s old, gw2 doesnt cater to PvPers wants as much as other games, i can complain about it as much as you PvErs complain about no endgame. Don’t be so close minded when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

LOL btw gw2 is one of the friendliest games not because of Dueling, do some research please. The major toxic issues in MMORPGS are the hardcore PvEing compared to PvP. Guild wars 2 does not allow third party mods like DPS meters, you cannot tag mobs, everyone gets a reward for participating, therefore no ninja looting. Please go experience MMORPGS before joining in a discussion where you bring them up.

all i see from you is “meh meh i want duels, you know nothing and i know more then you do”
i have bin playing MMO’s from 2005, have tried every single kind of MMO and know plenty about game development.
it’s more likely you need more research, the most toxic kind of player are the duel extremists and believe me, there are tons of them in every single MMO. (yes, even here where duels don’t exist in PvE)

grow up and talk normally, only then i can take you seriously.
right now you’re commenting like a spoiled arrogant child, a child that only wants his way and pushes away anyone that doesn’t agree with you.

Vayne.8563:

No, I wouldn’t like to compete with my friends in PvE. But thanks for asking. lol

Every time this thread comes up, more people are against it than for it. Which would make it not an essential feature in my book.

“People not wanting duels is irrelevant”

EvilSardine.9635:

because you’re socially awkward

yeah, because thats the only reason someone might not want to duel.
this is another post that proves the pvp toxicity.

keep going guys, we don’t even have to defend our side, with points like this!

sorudo.9054:

pigdog.9215:

sorudo.9054:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Nope Anet shouldn’t add things just because people ask for it. They should only add if it if it fits their vision for the game. My guess is that it doesn’t.

Then i guess their vision of the game doesnt include a large PVP scene l0l. There is no way people will take the PvP as seriously as WoWs if you cant even duel people.

are you frikin serious?
GW2 is 2/3 PvP, only 1/3 is PvE and even that is divided between open world, dungeons and fractures.
really, be glad there is as much PvP as GW2 offers, any other game simply doesn’t offer as much PvP even with duels.

oh and one more thing, the reason why so many games have a low PvE population is because of duels, GW1/2 has one of the biggest PvE crowd because PvP and PvE are separated, in WvWvW combines them but you still need to get there specifically.
i would have walked away from GW1 if duels were introduced and i am certainly not the only one, i am really happy GW2 keeps this up.

if you are so concerned that it will not be as popular as WoW, play WoW but leave GW2 alone in that regard.
in fact, because there are no duels in PvE GW2 is one of the most friendliest PvE environment, sure there are some rotten apples but every single game has that.

That is so close minded, Mist WvW is a karma farm, WvW points system is flawed if you actually WvWd youd see all the complaints. PvP is the only thing that is given attention, a lot of games have Pk servers, Dueling, arenas, pvp so you must be living under a rock to think gw2 has a lot in regards to PvP. Also i quit WoW because it’s old, gw2 doesnt cater to PvPers wants as much as other games, i can complain about it as much as you PvErs complain about no endgame. Don’t be so close minded when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

LOL btw gw2 is one of the friendliest games not because of Dueling, do some research please. The major toxic issues in MMORPGS are the hardcore PvEing compared to PvP. Guild wars 2 does not allow third party mods like DPS meters, you cannot tag mobs, everyone gets a reward for participating, therefore no ninja looting. Please go experience MMORPGS before joining in a discussion where you bring them up.

all i see from you is “meh meh i want duels, you know nothing and i know more then you do”
i have bin playing MMO’s from 2005, have tried every single kind of MMO and know plenty about game development.
it’s more likely you need more research, the most toxic kind of player are the duel extremists and believe me, there are tons of them in every single MMO. (yes, even here where duels don’t exist in PvE)

grow up and talk normally, only then i can take you seriously.
right now you’re commenting like a spoiled arrogant child, a child that only wants his way and pushes away anyone that doesn’t agree with you.

Based on your comment i see you didn’t read what i said, i gave a reason to why dueling shouldn’t be shunned by PvErs. You didn’t comment on the solutions to Pvers complaints. Read what i say before commenting, thanks.

This “discussion” has become one sided. All I see here is a big fat troll.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

If you have not noticed, GW2 places heavy emphasis on their PVP content. There are more avenues for PVP than there are for PVE.

In fact, PvE only has ONE avenue, that is modular enough to allow people to not play content they do not wish to.

Again, I am far from soft hearted. I spend most of my time in the mists. I /laugh at thieves. But I can understand Taygus’ viewpoint.

It doesn’t sit right with me to encroach upon the PVE world when there are several options available to you for dueling, propose to pepper the instances with duels and the probable toxicity PVP can bring, and then ask them why they’re crying about it.

Well how i and others see it is that they enjoy playing games that are immersive, i think being able to duel someone in a game based around fighting things is perfectly reasonable and to not what it makes no sense. You go around killing things but are afraid of one person having a friendly battle with another? I treat mmorpgs not as a PvE or PvP one but as an online fantasy world that immerses me into the game. If someone insults me for being a noob and runs off it makes no sense being unable to challenge them to a duel? If im traveling with a friend and we want to test our skills in the wild because its imersive i see no problem in that. I dont understand how people can think duels ruin PvE it adds to immersion. No matter what there is, or where you go, people are toxic. Remove World bosses if you are scared of toxic people.

you seem to be missing [read: ignoring] the point.

You may not see a problem, but the people who will be affected by your proposition do, and you should pay attention to what they’re saying.

There is certainly the option for you to duel, it just exists in a separate avenue.

You not wanting to use that avenue is a separate problem entirely, but the fact of the matter is the players on the PVE side don’t want to see this happen because of the avenues to harassment it opens on a game with a currently -very- peaceful PVE.

World bosses have been covered already. the ones that cause wipes require pre-planning, and the pre-planning happens in a separate instance.

Just like fractals.
Just like dungeons.
And just like duels.

The only point made is that PvPers want duels in the open world, the opposition’s point is that it would increase the amount of toxicity by people acting superior if another doesnt want to duel. World bosses create more of a toxic behaviour but it will not be removed because PvErs tolerate it. They just mute and report the person, which is what anyone can do for harrasing duelers. There is no logic to say one sides wants is irrelevant because it affects my side in a way i can easily solve ( reporting/ignoring ).

I see that you’re going to just pass over what I said about World bosses.

Never said it was irrelevant.

You can duel as much as you want.

in the mists.

Have fun.

P.S. Dueling is not a forgotten option, It was left out by choice. For…obvious reasons.

Taygus.4571:

EvilSardine.9635:

because you’re socially awkward

yeah, because thats the only reason someone might not want to duel.
this is another post that proves the pvp toxicity.

keep going guys, we don’t even have to defend our side, with points like this!

Look the world isnt carebare, why are you trying to keep a virtual world into one? I don’t know if you’ve had a traumatic event about someone harrassing you which makes you so one sided in people not being mean but i’ve dealt with trolls/rude people and it’s as simple as walking away or muting them. No one is trying to personally attack you, on the internet people will be rude and there is nothing you can do about it and i don’t know if you were badly bullied by someone you lost a duel to but its just a game. Don’t get so offended by someone you don’t know.

Taygus.4571:

yeah, because thats the only reason someone might not want to duel.
this is another post that proves the pvp toxicity.

keep going guys, we don’t even have to defend our side, with points like this!

Good try but…….Wrong. I’m pretty much a 90% PvE player along with most of my guild. It would be fun to duel with friends while waiting for dungeon spots to fill.

Again, if you’re taking dueling that seriously then you need to take a break from gaming in general. Just because you lose to someone in an imaginary game your feelings should not be hurt. Maybe take up farmville or something similar?

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

If you have not noticed, GW2 places heavy emphasis on their PVP content. There are more avenues for PVP than there are for PVE.

In fact, PvE only has ONE avenue, that is modular enough to allow people to not play content they do not wish to.

Again, I am far from soft hearted. I spend most of my time in the mists. I /laugh at thieves. But I can understand Taygus’ viewpoint.

It doesn’t sit right with me to encroach upon the PVE world when there are several options available to you for dueling, propose to pepper the instances with duels and the probable toxicity PVP can bring, and then ask them why they’re crying about it.

Well how i and others see it is that they enjoy playing games that are immersive, i think being able to duel someone in a game based around fighting things is perfectly reasonable and to not what it makes no sense. You go around killing things but are afraid of one person having a friendly battle with another? I treat mmorpgs not as a PvE or PvP one but as an online fantasy world that immerses me into the game. If someone insults me for being a noob and runs off it makes no sense being unable to challenge them to a duel? If im traveling with a friend and we want to test our skills in the wild because its imersive i see no problem in that. I dont understand how people can think duels ruin PvE it adds to immersion. No matter what there is, or where you go, people are toxic. Remove World bosses if you are scared of toxic people.

you seem to be missing [read: ignoring] the point.

You may not see a problem, but the people who will be affected by your proposition do, and you should pay attention to what they’re saying.

There is certainly the option for you to duel, it just exists in a separate avenue.

You not wanting to use that avenue is a separate problem entirely, but the fact of the matter is the players on the PVE side don’t want to see this happen because of the avenues to harassment it opens on a game with a currently -very- peaceful PVE.

World bosses have been covered already. the ones that cause wipes require pre-planning, and the pre-planning happens in a separate instance.

Just like fractals.
Just like dungeons.
And just like duels.

The only point made is that PvPers want duels in the open world, the opposition’s point is that it would increase the amount of toxicity by people acting superior if another doesnt want to duel. World bosses create more of a toxic behaviour but it will not be removed because PvErs tolerate it. They just mute and report the person, which is what anyone can do for harrasing duelers. There is no logic to say one sides wants is irrelevant because it affects my side in a way i can easily solve ( reporting/ignoring ).

I see that you’re going to just pass over what I said about World bosses.

Never said it was irrelevant.

You can duel as much as you want.

in the mists.

Have fun.

Ill have fun supporting people who wants duels untill we get it