Guild Wars 2

So I recently transferred from EU to NA mostly due to ping issues, but a few differences popped up. Do champ trains not regularly run in NA? things like coiled watch farm or cursed shore event chains, they were up on EU servers even with new content being there thanks to the mastery grind, but I couldn’t find any constant one in NA. Is this normal or an anomaly caused by HoT?

I’ve seen plenty of cursed shore farming trains, even before masteries. But I’ve never seen a coiled watch farming train unless I’m the one who hosts it.

People have told me there are differences in how the populations of the EU and NA servers are different for some reason. For example, organizing Teq most of the time (unless it is a guild-organized map) can be like pulling teeth. That never happens on EU servers, defenses and turrets fill up fast without anyone pleading for people to fill those roles.

Menadena.7482:

People have told me there are differences in how the populations of the EU and NA servers are different for some reason. For example, organizing Teq most of the time (unless it is a guild-organized map) can be like pulling teeth. That never happens on EU servers, defenses and turrets fill up fast without anyone pleading for people to fill those roles.

After a few days of trying, this is definitely the case. In NA there’s much more people disrupting trains and starting events on their own. Most of the people that actually follow are amazed at how well it works when it works. Somewhat the same applies to EotM, people just run ahead and take whatever they can instead of joining with a commander for an optimal train. You even notice it in lfg, people not reading the description are way more common, as are misplaced ads, people that join and don’t reply at all and don’t know what to do, etc. I haven’t tried map meta bosses but I can imagine it’s the same.
What makes it so much worse? Is it just bad luck? Is it that there are more organized guilds and the pugs left are worse?

US MMO culture is what makes it different, and we are by and large more caustic than any other culture

Keitaro Dragonheart.9047:

Miliko.5480:

Menadena.7482:

People have told me there are differences in how the populations of the EU and NA servers are different for some reason. For example, organizing Teq most of the time (unless it is a guild-organized map) can be like pulling teeth. That never happens on EU servers, defenses and turrets fill up fast without anyone pleading for people to fill those roles.

After a few days of trying, this is definitely the case. In NA there’s much more people disrupting trains and starting events on their own. Most of the people that actually follow are amazed at how well it works when it works. Somewhat the same applies to EotM, people just run ahead and take whatever they can instead of joining with a commander for an optimal train. You even notice it in lfg, people not reading the description are way more common, as are misplaced ads, people that join and don’t reply at all and don’t know what to do, etc. I haven’t tried map meta bosses but I can imagine it’s the same.
What makes it so much worse? Is it just bad luck? Is it that there are more organized guilds and the pugs left are worse?

As an American, I can tell you why that is; it’s because Americans are dumb. They are just flat out, unarguably dumb. Seriously, I WISH I was EU, because sometimes it’s embarrassing how dumb Americans are. Sometimes I feel all alone, the only intelligent creature, surrounded by a sea of dumb. Not to say there aren’t smart Americans, but the point is your average American is just, say it with me now, dumb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0RH0cYs4lw

Absolutely the reason my wife and I always sign up for EU servers on any game we play. Sucks to be us that so many game companies are American, IMO, as it is clear they are not immune from the problem.

I am not having the same experience as others in this thread. I only rarely see disruptive behavior, I’ve never had trouble with Tequatl (unless I show up too early — then you get people who go AFK and forget to come back for the event start), and there are all sorts of trains in NA.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

I am not having the same experience as others in this thread. I only rarely see disruptive behavior, I’ve never had trouble with Tequatl (unless I show up too early — then you get people who go AFK and forget to come back for the event start), and there are all sorts of trains in NA.

Same with me. Just returned siince basically launch. Am having a hoot with the halloween event. Havent even purchased HoT, but thats my plan this week. All the world bosses Ive attended which is like 3-4 per day, people are helpful, putting out banners, coms/mentors are organizing the parties. Dont recall failing one since my return. So far in Mad Lab, coms/mentors again doing a great job leading the group. Once in awhile a rogue group will run around attempting to open doors before zerg.

But its a MMO with a large playerbase, I dont really expect people to line up in queue for everything.

lol what is this thread? organizing teq is hard in na? I haven’t failed teq in ages, you just show up 10 minutes before it starts and you win. People don’t pin up to do champs or events? are we even playing the same game?

Blix.8021:

lol what is this thread? organizing teq is hard in na? I haven’t failed teq in ages, you just show up 10 minutes before it starts and you win. People don’t pin up to do champs or events? are we even playing the same game?

Try organizing Teq a few times and you will see what I mean.

Unfortunately they nerfed Teq. I still see defense or offense events fail though and have lost count how many times it only succeeded because a few people put in a superhuman effort.

edit: I have organized Teq at least 100 times by now. The only times the organization was not like bathing a cat was when an organized guild was there and were filling the positions. I have yet to just zerg in the initial burn stage, the closest I have came was an ERT team once.

Blix.8021:

lol what is this thread? organizing teq is hard in na? I haven’t failed teq in ages, you just show up 10 minutes before it starts and you win. People don’t pin up to do champs or events? are we even playing the same game?

Hahahahaaaaaaaaa, you are joking right?
In EU for organised maps you are on the map for an hour because they fill up so fast. Still pugging them aint so bad once you get started, often succeed but tight in time.

Silveress.5197:

Blix.8021:

lol what is this thread? organizing teq is hard in na? I haven’t failed teq in ages, you just show up 10 minutes before it starts and you win. People don’t pin up to do champs or events? are we even playing the same game?

Hahahahaaaaaaaaa, you are joking right?
In EU for organised maps you are on the map for an hour because they fill up so fast. Still pugging them aint so bad once you get started, often succeed but tight in time.

Why? Why show up an hour early, when you can show up 10 minutes early and still succeed?

For NA maps? Because it takes about an hour to get 25 people to stop pretending they do not hear you when you are pleading for defense teams and turrets to be filled.

I really wish they would nerf Teq. People would be going ‘oh kitten’ if those of us that fall on our swords so the event could succeed just all decided to go to the SW or Orr instead. The majority of the people there just want to afk and press the 1 key.

EU is less casual than NA.

Continuing on this adventure, I went in the realm of lfg/pug fractals. Today I encountered two mythical creatures I thought extinct in the ~60s: the 5-signet rifle warrior and the max-range leroy jenkins bowbear. Furthermore, they were of the defiant kind: the ranger, after running to death a few times and screwing a few other mob pulls by having the bear aggro them while we waited fully buffed and ready to burst, and being told not to do so, dropped gems like “dw the bear has 50k hp”, the classic “the game gives me something to tank and im not supposed to use it??”, and the legendary “we’ll see what you say once the boss kills you while im still alive”. After we were done, he even went “see, the fractal was smooth, what were you complaining about”. The warrior, when talked to, could only reply with “r u jealous?” and incoherent things like that.
I’m not sure what to make of this, it must be circumstancial evidence, right?

SkyShroud.2865:

EU is less casual than NA.

I do not think so. Even though I am in here a LOT but would consider myself a casual player. I want things organized though. So I am one of the ones fighting off champs that are getting a bit too close to the turrets while the majority of the people zerging are completely oblivious to how close they are to the event failing.

I think it really comes down to some fundamental difference in psychology. Not that of just the gaming community, but something more fundamental. Interestingly, I am one of those people who constantly feels like I should apologize when saying I am from the US and can never figure out the ‘logic’ here so maybe my attitudes are more european anyway.

Menadena.7482:

SkyShroud.2865:

EU is less casual than NA.

I do not think so. Even though I am in here a LOT but would consider myself a casual player. I want things organized though. So I am one of the ones fighting off champs that are getting a bit too close to the turrets while the majority of the people zerging are completely oblivious to how close they are to the event failing.

I think it really comes down to some fundamental difference in psychology. Not that of just the gaming community, but something more fundamental. Interestingly, I am one of those people who constantly feels like I should apologize when saying I am from the US and can never figure out the ‘logic’ here so maybe my attitudes are more european anyway.

I think one reason is that Guildwars, since Gw1 has a pretty big German community. to me it seems like the German community is pretty great at reacting on organisated stuff and following suggestions and requests of the commanders. (I don’t mean this in a bad way)
Most them play on the EU servers.
It’s not like they are less casual, more like the way they play is well organised in a casual way. ^^"

I don’t think it makes sense to talk about the NA servers purely in term of how Americans think and act, considering they’re used by people from all over the world.

In spite of the names it’s more like Europe and Everywhere Else than Europe and North America.